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Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Sep 4, 2019
The installer has been updated with the last and latest version of ultra-34 program.
I sent it to winsum so as soon as he gives the all clear you will need to download
again. I added the updated databases to the installer which are updated to the 3rd
so you may only need to add today's games to be fully updated,
RL
Thansk RL,
Will be pending on Winsum's update
ED
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Quote: Originally posted by timmer on Sep 4, 2019
Are the instruction videos on Youtube also?
If so, what are they calld?
RL's youtube channel :
https://m.youtube.com/channel/UC19MeAGRtlBSIygGx3tT88Q
Winsumloosesum's YouTube channel
https://m.youtube.com/channel/UCW8XAEpZSnLnBQm8jpviNYg
Steve's channel has the videos for Ultra 34 and more tools
Good luck
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Quote: Originally posted by theyellowfrog on Sep 4, 2019
Edmanuk,
how does this ultra-34 predictions compare with Lucky's daily tracker for pick 3.
Since you are a platinum member I presume you have used the Lucky's daily tracker for pick 3?
Hi theyellowfrog,
While I must categories myself still in training, I run the Ultra34 and try first to focus sole on the filters.
After I have some results I like double check Lucky's tracker, Lotsoftpro stats and winsum's excels.
Lucky's tracker has most of the time at least 1 digit right for the upcoming draw, but so does 1 digit repeat.
In straight plays, in think this is the best option.
ED
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OfflineQuote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Sep 4, 2019
The installer has been updated with the last and latest version of ultra-34 program.
I sent it to winsum so as soon as he gives the all clear you will need to download
again. I added the updated databases to the installer which are updated to the 3rd
so you may only need to add today's games to be fully updated,
RL
RL's most recent update is now available.
https://my.pcloud.com/publink/show?code=XZrN70kZidHc6F2TMC4Sk2MgV6jIsp4H3mIV
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Quote: Originally posted by winsumloosesum on Sep 4, 2019
RL's most recent update is now available.
https://my.pcloud.com/publink/show?code=XZrN70kZidHc6F2TMC4Sk2MgV6jIsp4H3mIV
Thanks RL and Winsum for the updated !
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Hi all
Here is something to chew on. What I am doing is looking for a long term setup / betting
strategy for both P-3 and P-4. Here is what I am looking at. The first picture shows the
data for pick-3 and the second pick-4
The data shown here is the change value for step-1 for all positions. For pick-3 I count somewhere
around 34 and for pick-4 around 20. This is where all 3/4-positions step-1 was (C). If you look at the
the top row is position 1 the second is position 2 etc. Anywhere all 3 or 4 are red it means that if a
person set all step-1's to (C) then a straight hit would be in the lines generated. I think there are 107
games displayed here so for pick-3, 107\34=3.147 games averaged out. Pick-4 = 107/20=5.35.
Pick-4 MO
Next I move to the Stacks filter option and set all 20 stacks to static ranges 0 to 2
Here we have reduced the pick-4 from 10,000 down to 840 lines using all static settings, ie no analysis. Lets say that
the game continues on average to show this around one of every five games. Making $1.00 games, 840 lines comes
to $84,000. If one in 5 of those 100 bets hit then here in MO we have 20*$6000.00 or $120,000.00 in payouts. So
when we subtract the cost we end up with $120,000 - $84,000 = $36,000 profits using static settings.
This however is way beyond most peoples budget as a few misses in a row would add up in a hurry. This brings us to
the last step.
using 2 values in each cell the 840 is reduced to 6 lines.
The order the tools are used is not important as long as all 3 are used. I am in the process of working on
a tool that combines the rogues values into two options. 0&1 = 1 and 2&3=2. This means that the rogues
choices would be either 1 or 2, ie, 50/50. I have not checked out to see what the overall (C) steps average
but if they hold up then this could pay a nice profit.
The number of rogue cells that the user set would determine the play budget but most I think should be able
to cover at least 6 lines. Pick-3 has a greater hit rate and while it does not have the payout of pick-4 it would
make a nice profit provided one played through and could manage to hit the rogues using two values in each
cell. With pick-3 setting 2 values for each cell will reduce to 32 lines without any other filtering so this may be
best applied to pick-4 play.
RL
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RL,
Are you using Mo. data for your backtesting?
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Yep, p-4 combined last updated on 3/9 set 8113. Remember if your trying to repeat the
steps shown that you need to use the r-click options for steps and rogues and the B-test
option in stacks.
RL
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Bob
Here is a list of the games where all step-1 values were (C). I used the last 2500 games
in history to compile the data. Total = 467 and 2500/467=5.3 So I would assume that
it happens on average of about 1 in every 5.3 games. If the average lines produced in
the static steps filtered by the static stack filters is say 850 then in 2500 games * 850
is $2,125,000 and 467*6000=2,802,000 then the profits over that time frame would be
2,802,000-2,125,000=$677,000. 2500/730 drawings per year = 3.42 years. $677,000
divided by 3.42=$197,953.22 profit per year and 197,953.22 /12 months = $16,496.10
per month and 16,469.10 / 4 = 4,124.02 per week. Hmmmmm!
RL
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Pick-3 list. Average lines generated by the steps using CCC and then filtered by the static stack
filters is around 150. The list of 2500 games shows 727 CCC games so 727*600=$436,200
and 2500*150=$375,000 so the profit would have been $436,200-$375,000=$61,200 or
close to $20K per year
Rl
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Philadelpia/Pennsylvania
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OfflinePennsylvania Pick 3 Evening game:
1000 draws
295 1st Position C-C-C
3.4 draws
Longest skips was 18 games.
It would seem the best play would be after a C-C-C and the following game. If the skip goes beyond 1 stop playing until another C-C-C.
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Philadelpia/Pennsylvania
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OfflineAnother idea is to check how many recent games had consecutive "S" (same) for the 1st positions.
For example, if you see 3 or 4 straight games with an "S" you might want to consider selecting "C".
This is for 1st positions only.
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I am still testing things, I started testing the steps CCCC with the stack data to see how often
that they fall together so to say. I found one that did not match doing hand workouts but when
things settle down a bit I will code a test software to get the full results. It would be nice to find
one or more reliable methods to throw in the mix. If all works out I will code it into a single app
where all the user has to do is keep the database updated and press run.
I am starting a small vacation tomorrow and when I get back I have a number of things going on
that will not leave much time to work on lottery stuff but it's definitely on the list of things to do
next.
One thing I did notice is that the number of lines generated varies by quite a bit game to game
so in the real world one may need other filtering. I worked on this way back but don't think I
ever applied it to the same-change data and I know I never applied the stacks. Might be other
things that will filter just as well using static settings.
RL
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Philadelpia/Pennsylvania
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OfflineQuote: Originally posted by winsumloosesum on Sep 5, 2019
Another idea is to check how many recent games had consecutive "S" (same) for the 1st positions.
For example, if you see 3 or 4 straight games with an "S" you might want to consider selecting "C".
This is for 1st positions only.
Looking forward to it RL.
I should add that consecutive "C" (Change) can also be used. That is, if you see a consecutive number of "C" say for example in the last 6 most recent games look for an "S" (Same).
The PA evening game had 6 consecutive "C" for position 1 for the 1st digit position. I noticed how many times a "C" goes beyond 6 games which indicated a large drop-off. So the "S" (Same) was a good selection to make.
A good rule to follow in my opinion is to look for this in your game.
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Philadelpia/Pennsylvania
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OfflineSteps Chart
Digit 0 = 1-2-1
Digit 1 = 1-1-1
Digit 2 = 1-2-2
Digit 3 = 2-1-1
Digit 4 = 2-2-1
Digit 5 = 2-1-2
Digit 6 = 2-2-2
Digit 7 = 3-1-1
Digit 8 = 3-2-1
Digit 9 = 3-1-2
Digits 0,1,2 are represented by the Position 1 Step value of 1xx
Digits 3,4,5,6 are represented by the Position 1 Step value of 2xx
Digits 7,8,9 are represented by the Position 1 Step value of 3xx
Example, Pennsylvania Evening draw for Thursday, Sept. 5, 2019 was 7-1-1
Steps
Digit 7 = 3-1-1
Digit 1 = 1-1-1
Digit 1 = 1-1-1
As I mentioned in the previous post Pennsylvania Position 1 had 6 consecutive "C" (Changes). So a "S" (Same) was most likely for tonight's pick 3 draw of 7-1-1. Wednesday's draw was 8-6-8.
Using the Steps program and selecting "S" for Position 1 and selecting "W" for the remaining settings, then clicking RUN would give me 300 sets remaining from 1000.
Of course additional selections would need to be made by selecting additional Steps settings, Rogue settings, Stacks, or DMP filter settings.