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Quote: Originally posted by p4wanbi on Jan 2, 2015
Right thats small bet actually. A valuable bet depends on how much is in the pot and your very best hands compare to the cards on the table. So the value bet to me is that much of a bet.
The more I think about it, the only difference between betting $100 or $3 on a pick-4 number is the payoff. The risk is the same because it depends on how much a player wants to spend and that should be relative to how much one can afford to lose. It looks like your pick-4 playing style is similar to mine with the exception of the amount of the wagers.
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Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Jan 2, 2015
The more I think about it, the only difference between betting $100 or $3 on a pick-4 number is the payoff. The risk is the same because it depends on how much a player wants to spend and that should be relative to how much one can afford to lose. It looks like your pick-4 playing style is similar to mine with the exception of the amount of the wagers.
Word.
playing what can be afforded...spend half of what was reclaimed.
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Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Jan 2, 2015
Washington doesn't have a traditional pick-4 game and it would require hits on multiple days to win almost 1/2 million playing their Match 4 game. So they must be playing in another state's pick-4 game. My skepticism is mostly on the $35,000 in wagers, the "I don't play everyday" comment, and the significance of making five .50/.50 bets.
Had they just said they wagered $100 on one pick-4 straight combination every day for a year and got lucky, there would be less skepticism.
"instead, you're hitting the same set of numbers in single draws? That is risky."
With $35,000 a year to wager, they can make 357 $100 bets, but the amount wagered on one bet can't change the 9999 to 1 odds against it winning. According to their figures only one 1 out the 357 bets paid off, but that means their strategy is still 28 times better than probability.
Sounds like he's duplicating what Steve Player use to do in that New England state, but he's spending less. Haven't much about him lately, must had made his money and retired
* you don't need to buy every combination, just the winning ones *
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Quote: Originally posted by RJOh on Jan 2, 2015
Sounds like he's duplicating what Steve Player use to do in that New England state, but he's spending less. Haven't much about him lately, must had made his money and retired
I watched lots of people bet $100 or more on one Craps, Blackjack, and Roulette outcomes, but there is a big difference in betting $100 on an even money bet or a 37 to 1 Roulette number and a 9999 to 1 pick-4 number. Player probably bets multiple numbers at around $10 a bet.
If they can win $490,000 for every $35,000 they bet, it shouldn't take too long before they can retire.
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Quote: Originally posted by MillionsWanted on Jan 1, 2015
Didn't make a profit, but the loss wasn't that much. I've been working for a long time on KENO strategies, which will stay a secret for now.
These strategies might give me a better ROI in 2015, now that they are almost fully developed.
i have played my keno strategy for a few years, and made a few bucks. ive developed a website for tracking my success only this dec. and an in process of developing it to functional to offer to people. i will tell you here, and everyone on LP and later offer the website to link to observe my success over the coming year.
i would call it a modified monte carlo system
ok i play a low spot game say
spot 1 that wins $3 to start. after $3 loss i move to
spot 2 that wins $12 if after losing $12 i move to
spot $3 that wins $32 if after losing $32 i move to
spot 4, that wins $120 if after losing $120 i move to
spot 5 tat wins $500 if after losing $500 i move to
spot 6 that wins $1300 if after losing $1300 i move to
spot 7 that wins $8000 if after losing $8000 i move to
spot 8 that wins $50 000 if after losing $50 000 i move to
spot 9 that wins $100 000 if after losing $100 000 i move to
spot 10 that wins $1m+ jackpot if after losing that i die
i have won spot 6x 2 times spot 5 x 3 spot 4 never, and uncountable spot 3's
the current losses is stated at - $1700 ish that accounts for the last 2 years where i only won at spot 6 resetting it to zero. so my spreadsheet has that form last 2 years added to the losses when i started this sheet. i will make the sheet avail for sharing that wont be editable , or viewing hte formula in a few min. here
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Quote: Originally posted by LottoMetro on Jan 2, 2015
Hypothetically anything is possible but only with perfect knowledge. Waiting until the exact right time....easier said than done. If every player did this then the lottery wouldn't exist. If any system or pattern existed that was truly predictable, then again, due to perfect knowledge the lottery wouldn't exist. Think about it.
The patterns that players track are not unique to their information. All players have the same information, and there are only so many patterns or combinations of patterns that can exist in the finite space of possibilities. So any one pattern that was really effective would be overplayed and the lottery would go broke or eliminate fixed prizes. People get lucky...this is a fact....but the vast majority do not. I'm sure p4wanbi is not the only player who plays big. There are many others who play big.....and lose. It is easy to say that I spent X and won Y, but how long have you played and how close would you come to going broke given a finite bankroll? I mean, if you believe in patterns then you should be throwing money at the stock market, not the stingy lottery. Bet big on those penny stocks!
Well the only thing i got to say is I dont know if he actually did win that amount on 35 grand that i would be broadcasting it here drawing attention to myself....the IRS is lurking....and if he did win as he said then the IRS is going to take what 40% and if he has state taxes maybe another 10% there. Of couse that would still leave him close to but not quite 200 grand to put into his pocket.
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Quote: Originally posted by savagegoose on Jan 8, 2015
i have played my keno strategy for a few years, and made a few bucks. ive developed a website for tracking my success only this dec. and an in process of developing it to functional to offer to people. i will tell you here, and everyone on LP and later offer the website to link to observe my success over the coming year.
i would call it a modified monte carlo system
ok i play a low spot game say
spot 1 that wins $3 to start. after $3 loss i move to
spot 2 that wins $12 if after losing $12 i move to
spot $3 that wins $32 if after losing $32 i move to
spot 4, that wins $120 if after losing $120 i move to
spot 5 tat wins $500 if after losing $500 i move to
spot 6 that wins $1300 if after losing $1300 i move to
spot 7 that wins $8000 if after losing $8000 i move to
spot 8 that wins $50 000 if after losing $50 000 i move to
spot 9 that wins $100 000 if after losing $100 000 i move to
spot 10 that wins $1m+ jackpot if after losing that i die
i have won spot 6x 2 times spot 5 x 3 spot 4 never, and uncountable spot 3's
the current losses is stated at - $1700 ish that accounts for the last 2 years where i only won at spot 6 resetting it to zero. so my spreadsheet has that form last 2 years added to the losses when i started this sheet. i will make the sheet avail for sharing that wont be editable , or viewing hte formula in a few min. here
ok as i sit here at the beginning of this year, looking at my data i think of a plan to super charge it , and test rather quickly the 1st 3spots,
it involves
if at the end of the year i haven't won my money back i start back at spot 1 but instead of $1 per draw, i spend the following .
step 1
spot 1 =$3 bet in 1 game for spot 3meaning i will $9 if that one game hits.
step 2
spot 2 i bet $12 in 1 game for spot 2, meaning if it hits i wins $144.
step 3
spot 3 i bet $2 per draw every draw i play until this years bets total is positive if true, i return to step 1 meaning if i get 3 numbers i win $$64
step 4
i bet $2 per draw every draw until this years total is positive if true i return to step 1 meaning if i win i get $240
step5
spot 5 i bet $1 per draw until the total losses for this year year are =$500 if after this historical winnings are zero i have cleared all my losses! if that is still negative reset to year 1
step6
spot 6 i bet $1 per draw till this years total losses are= $1300 if after this historical winnings are zero i have cleared all my losses! if that is still negative
reset to year 1
step7
spot 7 i bet $1 per draw till this years total losses are =8000 if after this historical winnings are zero i have cleared all my losses! if that is still negative
reset to year 1
step 8
spot 8 its all the same from here
i bet $1 per draw till this years total losses are =50 000 if after this historical winnings are zero or positive i have cleared all my losses! if that is still negative reset to year 1
you can pretty much guess the routine from here on in ea year will start like this and this is the plan i have to start from today. i haven't figured i will be losing even $1300 in a year so dont se it going upto $50k if historical winnings are ever back to positive it means the whole system goes back to year 1 status, which is the above posts plan this is year 2 or 3 year plans this is actually my 3rd year of losing, but this modified plan should turbo charge getting back to year 1
" Still swinging, still missing "
2014 = -1016; 2015= -1409; 2016 = -1171; 2017 = -1257 ; 2018 = - 1380 = TOT = - 6233
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Pick 4: Hit a pick 4 straight for 2700.00 back in February. 3 or 4 100.00 boxed wins and one 200.00 boxed so probably a little ahead on pick 4.
Cash 5: Spend 2-3 bucks a day on Cash 5 and never got more than 3 numbers hit on a draw so loss on Cash 5 as I expect most do unless you are lucky enough to hit a jackpot and mine is coming in 2015.
Scratch Offs: Only play scratch offs 1rst Tuesday of every month when the new games come out in NC. Usually spend anywhere from 20.00 to 50 or 60.00 depending on the games that come out and I hit 500.00 once, 100.00 2 or 3 times and several 20-50 dollar wins so probably broke even on scratchys.