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Switching between Fairfax, VA and Belgium
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OfflineQuote: Originally posted by JordanT1021 on Jan 12, 2012
Give it up homie youve been debunked..
Crow, calm down... Every state has pretest draws..
After reading quite some time in time forum... I fead one thing that makes me think you are all full of hot air and just like to stir up things...
There are 999 different pick 3 numbers.. There for the odds of hitting an exact numbef off a sgraight bet is 1 in a 1000
You also said in a different post somthing about the never drawn list in nc... U said it was almost impossible for all combinations to not hit by now, but i would like for u to prove me wrong and then i will give u all the credit you want....
Step 1... Find a state where pick 3 is played and show me where every number hit in ever possiblee way and the time frame from when the lottery started...
I can almost promise you every number didnt hit i. Every possible combination within 5.3 years...
5.3 years is the total time the nc pick 3 lottery has been in business... Find me a state where it happened less than 5 yearsHere are results for all states.
As you will see, the states where all the straights have hit, show an amount of draws it has taken before all 1000 had shown up in straight format.
This amount circles around 5474 and 6557 draws draws.Another thing you might notice, is that whenever a state reaches total draws of 5000, the less numbers are left unhit (straight format)
Note : There's nothing special about this, but when you have a state with enough draws, meaning at least 8000 or so, you do not have to start with the first draw to make these calculations, you can even start at draw 1500 or so, the results will always be pretty much the same. (i will not post all those lists or it will take 50 pages here lol)
StateName StateResult Remaining DrawsCounted TheNumbers AR (E) Remaining straights 464 760 001 002 005 010 014 015 019 024 027 029 030 034 035 036 039 040 047 048 051 053 056 059 060 065 066 069 070 073 074 075 078 080 082 084 085 086 088 089 092 093 096 098 101 102 106 109 110 113 120 122 124 126 127 128 131 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 147 149 152 153 154 155 159 161 162 165 171 172 173 174 178 180 187 188 189 194 196 197 198 199 201 207 209 210 212 213 216 217 220 224 225 226 227 228 229 232 233 234 235 236 238 240 242 245 249 251 252 253 257 260 267 268 274 276 277 284 285 286 288 292 294 295 296 298 299 301 303 306 311 313 314 317 318 319 321 322 323 326 328 329 332 335 336 337 340 341 342 343 346 347 349 355 356 358 360 361 362 363 364 368 369 370 371 372 376 377 384 385 387 388 389 390 391 396 399 401 403 406 408 410 415 416 417 421 422 426 430 432 434 435 436 438 440 441 442 443 447 448 449 451 454 456 458 460 462 464 468 469 470 473 474 480 481 486 490 491 494 496 498 499 500 501 503 504 507 510 513 517 519 526 527 528 529 530 531 532 534 538 539 540 543 544 548 552 554 556 558 559 562 564 565 567 569 573 576 579 580 581 582 585 588 589 594 596 597 600 602 605 606 607 609 610 617 618 621 622 623 624 625 626 628 632 633 635 636 637 639 640 641 642 643 644 645 647 649 651 652 653 654 655 658 660 662 664 666 667 670 672 676 678 679 681 685 687 693 694 695 696 698 699 700 701 702 707 708 709 710 713 715 716 717 721 725 731 732 733 734 736 737 739 743 745 746 752 753 754 759 761 762 763 766 767 771 772 776 777 782 791 792 793 794 795 796 797 800 801 802 803 804 806 808 812 814 815 817 818 819 821 822 825 827 828 829 830 831 832 833 834 835 839 841 845 853 854 855 856 861 863 864 865 867 869 870 872 877 881 883 884 891 898 899 902 905 911 912 914 917 921 922 928 929 930 931 933 934 935 937 942 943 947 949 950 955 956 959 966 967 969 971 974 975 976 977 978 981 984 986 989 990 991 992 995 996 997 998 999 AR (M) Remaining straights 528 652 000 001 002 005 008 012 013 015 016 020 022 023 028 029 030 032 033 036 037 040 041 042 044 046 047 050 051 052 058 059 060 061 062 063 065 067 069 072 074 080 084 085 086 088 090 091 093 095 096 099 101 102 103 105 108 109 110 112 113 114 115 116 117 119 120 121 123 127 128 133 138 141 147 150 153 154 156 159 160 161 162 164 168 169 175 176 180 181 182 183 186 187 189 193 194 195 198 199 200 202 204 206 207 208 209 210 214 215 217 219 221 224 225 226 229 230 231 233 234 236 237 239 240 243 244 245 246 247 249 250 251 252 254 256 258 259 261 262 263 265 266 267 269 272 277 278 280 285 286 287 291 294 295 298 300 302 304 309 311 312 314 315 319 320 321 324 326 328 330 331 333 334 335 336 338 340 342 344 345 346 347 348 349 353 354 356 359 360 362 363 369 375 376 379 382 384 385 386 388 390 391 394 395 396 397 400 401 405 406 407 410 412 413 414 418 424 426 428 430 433 434 435 438 441 442 444 447 451 452 456 457 458 459 461 462 463 464 465 467 468 469 470 474 476 477 479 480 482 485 488 489 490 491 493 496 497 499 500 506 508 510 516 518 519 520 521 523 525 526 528 529 530 531 532 533 535 537 538 541 544 547 553 554 555 556 557 558 559 560 561 563 564 566 570 571 572 573 574 576 578 580 581 583 585 587 588 589 590 591 592 594 595 597 601 603 608 609 611 612 618 619 621 622 623 624 625 626 628 629 630 631 632 636 637 640 641 644 647 648 649 650 652 654 655 656 659 662 663 664 667 668 669 670 671 673 674 676 677 678 680 681 685 686 690 691 693 695 698 699 701 702 704 705 707 708 709 710 712 714 715 718 719 721 724 726 732 733 734 735 736 737 738 741 742 743 744 752 755 756 757 758 759 760 761 763 765 766 767 770 771 772 773 776 777 779 780 781 783 785 787 790 791 793 794 795 796 799 802 804 806 807 808 809 811 812 813 814 815 818 819 821 822 824 826 830 832 833 834 839 840 842 843 844 846 851 854 855 857 858 859 860 862 863 864 865 866 870 871 873 874 882 893 894 895 896 897 898 901 903 905 908 910 911 912 913 914 915 916 917 918 920 921 922 925 927 928 929 933 934 935 936 938 942 945 947 948 949 950 952 956 957 963 966 967 968 972 973 975 977 980 984 985 986 990 991 993 995 999 AZ (E) Remaining straights 16 4221 010 199 243 264 295 337 353 442 488 534 549 596 602 622 624 797 Belgium (E) Remaining straights 70 2792 006 016 023 024 030 040 049 082 104 105 132 136 151 172 187 193 205 206 208 215 230 260 280 282 291 303 310 318 334 336 348 355 374 385 390 411 415 439 464 477 484 531 532 548 574 577 610 613 631 645 658 677 678 679 707 736 782 804 812 824 829 834 848 858 866 942 945 966 972 992 CA (E) Remaining straights 8 4937 105 134 136 383 544 561 741 896 CA (M) Remaining straights 36 3357 002 031 054 087 179 205 223 267 272 277 311 319 363 419 436 513 564 643 662 678 704 709 758 782 786 817 824 854 855 865 878 882 887 905 906 973 CT (E) Remaining straights 11 4934 241 276 286 314 368 523 581 626 666 747 873 CT (M) Remaining straights 20 3998 037 108 118 160 185 187 210 297 532 568 573 580 626 627 629 743 799 802 835 946 DC (E) Remaining straights 45 3298 032 075 092 101 115 164 183 223 230 278 283 315 345 362 380 397 458 470 474 496 508 517 581 605 624 629 633 660 666 667 706 762 764 807 814 858 896 904 908 918 961 974 977 985 987 DC (M) Remaining straights 38 3298 046 051 090 094 168 226 251 271 282 284 293 299 327 329 340 381 404 437 461 482 488 489 490 514 545 574 584 587 608 729 864 870 880 946 958 968 987 996 DE (E) Remaining straights 5 4773 095 110 186 195 601 DE (M) Remaining straights 60 2822 018 045 046 050 082 088 142 147 157 171 179 180 182 206 260 266 267 285 293 297 314 352 368 378 382 403 426 438 519 521 523 524 536 563 566 587 610 612 640 652 694 699 701 713 721 726 759 768 783 821 823 829 855 857 882 912 917 948 960 963 FL (E) Remaining straights 11 4937 095 241 401 575 602 617 628 640 703 766 982 FL (M) Remaining straights 256 1334 000 001 007 008 009 011 017 018 022 024 031 032 034 040 043 048 049 050 051 057 061 062 064 069 085 090 094 104 117 119 122 124 126 127 128 130 138 142 152 158 162 168 169 171 174 178 188 196 199 203 211 212 220 222 231 236 241 245 247 254 258 261 273 275 276 281 283 290 291 296 298 301 302 304 305 321 344 345 347 350 355 356 362 369 370 375 377 378 380 389 392 397 402 403 407 422 428 430 434 435 437 441 442 444 447 453 470 472 474 478 483 489 490 491 492 500 510 517 518 520 526 527 532 535 546 554 555 557 564 568 571 575 576 580 581 582 588 590 591 593 594 596 600 602 603 610 615 620 625 633 635 641 642 645 646 647 649 651 660 667 672 675 678 686 688 693 694 704 705 708 709 715 720 724 726 728 745 746 749 751 752 753 755 760 766 771 776 778 782 783 788 789 790 791 795 797 805 807 808 811 812 813 815 817 823 824 826 838 840 842 845 847 848 855 858 859 860 863 868 873 876 877 879 893 894 896 898 901 908 909 915 919 921 925 926 928 930 934 936 941 942 947 949 950 954 958 961 969 970 971 976 979 980 985 986 991 GA (E) All straights hit after 6557 draws 0 6557 GA (M) Remaining straights 11 4528 077 155 263 308 398 452 489 503 509 622 697 ID (E) Remaining straights 29 3655 007 073 104 182 194 239 240 267 302 308 335 338 340 369 370 407 518 536 581 612 665 701 835 904 939 952 984 990 993 ID (M) Remaining straights 502 695 000 002 003 006 007 008 012 013 014 017 018 020 021 022 023 025 026 028 030 031 032 033 034 036 037 038 040 042 046 047 048 049 051 053 054 055 057 059 061 062 063 069 070 073 074 075 077 078 079 080 081 082 083 085 087 088 090 092 093 095 096 097 099 100 101 102 103 104 107 109 111 112 115 116 118 119 122 127 130 135 136 138 139 144 146 150 152 155 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 171 173 174 175 178 182 185 188 189 190 194 195 199 200 202 203 204 205 207 208 210 211 216 217 220 222 223 225 226 227 230 233 235 236 238 239 241 246 250 252 253 256 257 262 263 264 265 269 270 274 275 277 278 282 283 285 286 288 289 294 295 298 299 304 311 312 314 315 316 318 320 321 323 324 325 326 327 328 329 331 334 337 339 340 342 343 344 346 351 353 354 357 358 359 361 363 366 368 370 371 372 374 375 377 378 379 383 386 390 391 392 393 394 395 396 397 399 400 401 404 405 408 412 414 415 417 418 419 420 421 424 425 427 429 430 431 432 433 435 436 440 443 444 446 449 452 453 454 455 457 458 460 462 466 469 470 471 472 477 478 481 483 486 487 489 491 494 495 498 500 502 503 505 506 507 514 516 519 521 523 525 527 528 530 531 532 533 535 536 543 545 547 548 549 550 551 552 553 555 558 561 562 563 564 566 571 574 575 578 587 589 590 591 593 594 596 599 600 602 606 607 614 615 617 620 621 624 625 628 629 630 631 632 634 636 639 640 641 642 646 649 651 652 654 659 660 664 666 667 669 670 671 675 677 679 680 683 685 687 690 691 692 693 697 703 704 705 708 712 713 714 716 720 729 732 733 734 736 737 738 740 743 744 745 747 750 752 755 759 760 762 768 772 773 775 776 778 780 781 783 787 789 793 794 797 803 804 806 810 812 814 816 817 821 822 825 826 827 828 830 832 833 835 836 838 839 844 845 847 850 857 858 860 864 867 868 869 870 873 876 878 880 881 883 886 887 889 890 891 894 896 898 901 902 903 907 909 914 915 916 917 918 920 921 922 923 926 927 929 930 935 938 939 940 943 944 945 948 952 953 959 961 962 964 967 968 969 970 971 972 973 976 978 979 982 984 986 987 989 990 991 992 994 996 997 998 IL (E) Remaining straights 2 5461 098 498 IL (M) Remaining straights 10 4788 151 362 392 563 594 672 876 897 905 965 IN (E) Remaining straights 6 4931 185 322 501 787 795 881 IN (M) Remaining straights 45 3257 003 010 040 062 064 101 108 117 121 133 162 176 221 251 268 301 361 383 449 452 481 510 539 557 563 568 571 637 654 690 711 732 741 752 759 772 773 812 825 875 877 894 907 939 986 KS (E) Remaining straights 8 4881 123 333 340 401 427 447 454 733 KY (E) Remaining straights 6 4933 301 387 660 665 730 984 KY (M) Remaining straights 24 4008 042 053 151 225 283 335 338 342 385 394 401 406 431 487 525 588 647 714 723 762 875 903 932 995 LA (E) Remaining straights 5 4904 327 332 376 621 936 MD (E) Remaining straights 3 4885 067 577 670 MD (M) Remaining straights 10 4631 016 252 325 411 418 765 796 929 971 974 MI (E) Remaining straights 0 5821 MI (M) Remaining straights 3 5189 031 228 269 MN (E) Remaining straights 6 4884 021 375 378 486 506 857 MO (E) Remaining straights 10 4937 102 177 319 467 573 759 829 954 978 997 MO (M) Remaining straights 63 2727 001 035 051 062 126 164 170 190 220 223 227 229 248 264 278 284 295 307 310 321 326 353 372 376 378 393 396 420 437 450 494 506 550 587 593 600 603 614 628 631 635 638 702 717 756 764 839 850 854 865 874 878 881 900 905 912 933 938 941 971 982 988 993 NC (E) Remaining straights 141 1923 017 035 040 054 055 056 072 085 087 091 094 101 103 106 107 108 121 122 147 152 170 175 199 209 216 221 235 239 252 253 254 260 275 283 284 290 299 304 310 313 317 318 339 343 386 392 396 413 415 421 449 451 455 464 466 475 492 509 513 528 529 537 538 546 550 557 563 565 569 580 586 590 592 597 604 608 610 615 621 626 627 633 634 638 642 645 653 666 669 675 684 688 690 695 703 707 714 716 718 727 732 741 744 746 747 754 759 762 772 773 780 786 799 800 804 827 831 836 852 859 862 863 867 893 898 900 909 913 921 930 935 941 945 947 956 965 980 986 989 993 998 NC (M) Remaining straights 269 1232 000 004 007 009 010 014 015 016 017 020 023 029 034 038 041 042 043 051 061 064 067 068 085 087 089 091 094 095 096 105 106 110 113 120 122 124 126 128 129 131 132 133 137 141 146 150 156 157 159 162 164 166 169 173 177 188 196 199 201 210 216 221 222 227 232 236 237 238 250 252 253 257 260 265 266 268 274 278 279 287 292 293 295 297 302 307 310 314 317 324 326 334 335 337 345 347 349 350 353 358 362 363 364 371 373 374 376 377 390 391 392 396 400 404 405 407 411 415 421 422 425 427 429 430 436 438 452 454 457 458 463 464 465 466 470 475 476 477 479 482 488 492 494 496 500 502 504 516 517 522 531 540 544 545 546 548 550 553 558 568 569 570 575 580 586 588 590 591 594 595 599 601 602 614 628 633 634 635 636 637 651 653 657 659 665 668 673 677 678 680 681 692 696 698 703 706 708 711 712 713 715 723 724 728 736 742 758 761 764 778 781 787 791 792 793 799 806 815 817 820 832 836 838 841 847 849 850 851 858 860 862 866 872 873 878 884 885 889 890 897 900 906 908 909 912 920 924 930 935 938 939 950 951 952 953 954 962 963 967 973 980 985 986 988 990 991 992 998 999 NE (E) Remaining straights 119 2077 003 013 017 027 029 041 043 055 063 064 069 074 082 085 088 095 117 130 132 137 146 156 163 169 173 197 215 228 233 269 276 281 283 286 288 303 308 323 329 335 338 348 350 352 360 372 396 401 425 435 447 452 457 463 469 473 479 484 487 499 504 512 520 521 527 528 535 539 540 543 564 566 586 595 602 606 614 615 618 623 629 644 689 723 724 730 735 739 740 742 745 749 750 753 764 765 777 784 786 799 801 813 814 837 842 849 852 854 882 883 913 927 936 952 976 985 986 990 997 NJ (E) All straights hit after 5877 draws 0 5877 NJ (M) Remaining straights 24 3703 045 100 104 212 293 295 312 375 381 383 393 448 508 519 619 630 638 670 705 716 723 742 766 844 NM (E) Remaining straights 37 3562 004 020 042 135 159 172 182 207 217 220 243 278 339 342 379 390 481 495 498 502 510 528 535 541 560 562 653 665 701 715 785 791 809 848 856 887 963 NY (E) Remaining straights 8 4925 128 228 279 415 462 471 572 938 NY (M) Remaining straights 19 3684 009 024 108 150 182 184 286 367 455 504 556 615 686 832 869 900 928 937 959 OH (E) Remaining straights 6 4468 074 339 425 576 612 742 OH (M) Remaining straights 12 4122 090 169 173 200 270 432 619 646 752 811 895 996 OK (E) Remaining straights 106 2255 010 023 026 038 052 060 062 066 072 075 089 090 106 120 134 148 161 174 189 197 203 209 215 219 226 239 243 252 269 274 280 288 299 309 319 343 344 364 367 371 382 384 393 397 403 410 419 423 426 441 454 460 479 480 491 496 507 542 548 550 555 562 563 565 569 584 594 597 600 624 659 662 663 665 676 677 679 697 704 718 739 745 752 772 773 803 806 817 841 844 848 856 862 866 869 873 889 895 922 930 933 937 946 948 950 967 Ontario (E) Remaining straights 18 3995 047 255 262 298 312 322 401 482 662 707 740 758 811 871 878 904 955 960 PA (E) Remaining straights 8 4937 098 121 199 390 398 636 707 843 PA (M) Remaining straights 45 3258 016 020 043 078 102 115 205 209 213 242 264 319 325 366 387 400 421 479 484 498 507 557 558 599 622 659 694 721 768 782 802 808 817 827 834 848 867 868 910 931 936 942 946 954 965 QC (E) Remaining straights 18 3976 034 076 084 185 266 306 310 417 419 447 474 519 581 605 615 710 780 887 SC (E) Remaining straights 22 3599 019 036 064 066 140 208 260 272 296 337 345 347 373 396 518 670 738 839 886 910 948 975 SC (M) Remaining straights 56 2668 002 003 032 056 112 122 146 149 231 255 258 283 291 294 297 298 303 313 364 380 396 399 402 410 437 456 480 488 492 496 552 553 572 616 660 670 678 780 843 847 852 853 867 878 888 896 922 926 929 939 945 946 970 981 983 987 Taiwan (E) Remaining straights 230 1538 000 008 009 013 020 030 031 037 041 051 054 057 060 062 064 072 073 075 081 085 109 112 113 114 115 122 127 131 134 135 144 148 149 151 152 159 163 171 175 176 177 180 181 186 187 200 203 204 207 213 223 226 227 238 243 249 251 253 262 271 276 278 281 283 288 291 292 293 295 299 308 309 314 322 323 324 331 340 343 349 355 360 361 363 371 374 375 376 385 388 393 400 405 406 412 420 422 428 435 443 447 448 450 452 454 463 466 472 473 475 489 490 491 493 500 504 505 507 511 515 523 524 529 531 536 538 544 545 547 567 575 579 582 586 588 596 599 601 612 626 627 628 636 641 647 650 653 664 671 672 674 679 681 684 686 689 696 703 708 709 713 716 717 720 728 732 739 742 747 753 754 755 758 761 762 763 767 777 778 780 785 790 798 801 814 820 823 831 842 849 851 857 862 865 872 876 878 879 881 890 892 905 908 911 921 924 927 928 931 939 940 952 954 956 960 961 964 969 970 971 972 973 976 983 987 988 989 990 993 996 TN (E) Remaining straights 45 2874 006 022 024 025 044 060 111 148 163 248 261 262 277 281 311 345 350 404 407 416 460 485 508 509 528 561 570 574 613 616 623 640 666 741 747 750 761 832 861 901 902 909 921 973 993 TN (M) Remaining straights 143 1926 001 002 003 011 016 026 029 032 035 039 040 054 057 061 064 074 076 091 095 108 110 112 115 120 121 131 134 143 144 146 154 158 170 179 181 188 199 205 209 227 240 241 248 260 263 285 288 294 299 301 305 306 307 311 312 316 324 325 327 337 341 343 346 357 363 371 373 380 435 452 457 467 475 477 480 489 499 500 505 515 525 537 544 551 552 556 567 570 580 582 585 599 607 612 621 624 625 633 642 648 666 667 669 671 674 675 683 697 698 702 704 711 721 725 731 735 766 774 787 792 800 818 829 832 847 849 855 864 868 881 882 883 888 890 896 899 900 951 971 974 983 984 991 Tri State (E) Remaining straights 9 4866 078 130 370 396 553 691 742 901 952 Tri State (M) Remaining straights 43 3118 019 041 057 097 100 133 160 166 179 239 275 299 386 396 408 422 439 463 471 475 478 480 530 546 552 567 573 588 638 668 682 692 700 715 730 732 791 818 835 840 875 910 997 TX (E) All straights hit after 5474 draws 0 5474 TX (M) Remaining straights 53 3042 014 029 054 081 111 128 155 167 245 266 286 306 318 326 346 356 360 362 371 379 470 488 522 529 537 551 561 567 570 573 603 625 649 663 676 711 719 722 726 731 746 771 794 832 879 883 903 919 925 951 953 958 965 VA (E) All straights hit after 6358 draws 0 6358 VA (M) Remaining straights 8 4494 298 443 601 628 669 877 891 972 WA (E) Remaining straights 3 4879 036 849 939 WC (E) Remaining straights 18 3983 038 063 145 174 226 267 376 416 420 499 527 528 548 720 743 745 770 854 WI (E) Remaining straights 8 4936 086 193 271 535 602 710 828 902 WV (E) Remaining straights 13 4235 005 130 346 358 423 469 474 530 731 903 937 982 997 In fact, when one would sort this list, you'll find the remaining numbers and total draws are pretty much 'in line', meaning one could do a sort on total draws and view the list, and then do a sort on remaining numbers and view the list and then notice the sortorder stays pretty much the same.
See the list below, sorted on remaining numbers
StateName Remaining DrawsCounted TX (E) 0 5474 NJ (E) 0 5877 GA (E) 0 6557 VA (E) 0 6358 MI (E) 0 5821 IL (E) 2 5461 MI (M) 3 5189 WA (E) 3 4879 MD (E) 3 4885 DE (E) 5 4773 LA (E) 5 4904 IN (E) 6 4931 OH (E) 6 4468 MN (E) 6 4884 KY (E) 6 4933 PA (E) 8 4937 NY (E) 8 4925 KS (E) 8 4881 VA (M) 8 4494 CA (E) 8 4937 WI (E) 8 4936 Tri State (E) 9 4866 MD (M) 10 4631 MO (E) 10 4937 IL (M) 10 4788 CT (E) 11 4934 GA (M) 11 4528 FL (E) 11 4937 OH (M) 12 4122 WV (E) 13 4235 AZ (E) 16 4221 WC (E) 18 3983 QC (E) 18 3976 Ontario (E) 18 3995 NY (M) 19 3684 CT (M) 20 3998 SC (E) 22 3599 KY (M) 24 4008 NJ (M) 24 3703 ID (E) 29 3655 CA (M) 36 3357 NM (E) 37 3562 DC (M) 38 3298 Tri State (M) 43 3118 DC (E) 45 3298 IN (M) 45 3257 TN (E) 45 2874 PA (M) 45 3258 TX (M) 53 3042 SC (M) 56 2668 DE (M) 60 2822 MO (M) 63 2727 Belgium (E) 70 2792 OK (E) 106 2255 NE (E) 119 2077 NC (E) 141 1923 TN (M) 143 1926 Taiwan (E) 230 1538 FL (M) 256 1334 NC (M) 269 1232 AR (E) 464 760 ID (M) 502 695 AR (M) 528 652 and the following list, sorted on Drawscounted
StateName Remaining DrawsCounted GA (E) 0 6557 VA (E) 0 6358 NJ (E) 0 5877 MI (E) 0 5821 TX (E) 0 5474 IL (E) 2 5461 MI (M) 3 5189 CA (E) 8 4937 FL (E) 11 4937 MO (E) 10 4937 PA (E) 8 4937 WI (E) 8 4936 CT (E) 11 4934 KY (E) 6 4933 IN (E) 6 4931 NY (E) 8 4925 LA (E) 5 4904 MD (E) 3 4885 MN (E) 6 4884 KS (E) 8 4881 WA (E) 3 4879 Tri State (E) 9 4866 IL (M) 10 4788 DE (E) 5 4773 MD (M) 10 4631 GA (M) 11 4528 VA (M) 8 4494 OH (E) 6 4468 WV (E) 13 4235 AZ (E) 16 4221 OH (M) 12 4122 KY (M) 24 4008 CT (M) 20 3998 Ontario (E) 18 3995 WC (E) 18 3983 QC (E) 18 3976 NJ (M) 24 3703 NY (M) 19 3684 ID (E) 29 3655 SC (E) 22 3599 NM (E) 37 3562 CA (M) 36 3357 DC (M) 38 3298 DC (E) 45 3298 PA (M) 45 3258 IN (M) 45 3257 Tri State (M) 43 3118 TX (M) 53 3042 TN (E) 45 2874 DE (M) 60 2822 Belgium (E) 70 2792 MO (M) 63 2727 SC (M) 56 2668 OK (E) 106 2255 NE (E) 119 2077 TN (M) 143 1926 NC (E) 141 1923 Taiwan (E) 230 1538 FL (M) 256 1334 NC (M) 269 1232 AR (E) 464 760 ID (M) 502 695 AR (M) 528 652 Oh yes, just in case crow doubts again, this is real live data... stuff that other people would call facts
lasas3
An onion a day keeps everyone away!!!
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Switching between Fairfax, VA and Belgium
Belgium
Member #19,286
July 29, 2005
2,254 Posts
OfflineQuote: Originally posted by crow on Jan 12, 2012
Let me re-phrase in case you didnt understand the first time:
one single straight played combination can go past 1000 draws before it hits ......!!!!!!
one single straight played combination can actually go past 3000 draws as shown from the above list i posted for north carolina.
-----------> one single straight played combination<---------------.....!!!!!
Plus your odds are only 1/1000 if you play---> ((((1000 combinations)))))<--- not if you play only one !!!!
Dayyyum son im startin to believe you work for the state lotteries.
You really mean this?
So if a person decides to play 1 number in a pick3 game, his or her odds of winning are not 1 in a thousand??????
So what you say is: when State A decides to start a pick3 game, the first day the odds are 1 in thousand, but after, let's just pull a number out of a head, after 2480 draws, the odds have changed???
Perhaps you might wanna stop smoking whatever it is you are smoking...
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Quote: Originally posted by paurths on Jan 12, 2012
You really mean this?
So if a person decides to play 1 number in a pick3 game, his or her odds of winning are not 1 in a thousand??????
So what you say is: when State A decides to start a pick3 game, the first day the odds are 1 in thousand, but after, let's just pull a number out of a head, after 2480 draws, the odds have changed???
Perhaps you might wanna stop smoking whatever it is you are smoking...
look at the list i posted where all those straight played combinations went past 3000 draws..
why keep on denying the never drawn list ?
its obvious you misundestand what im saying
yes if a person decides to play ONLY ONE STRAIGHT PLAYED COMBINATION it can go past 1000 draws....!!!!
this means your odds of winning are not 1 out of 1000 draws for a (straight played combination)....it can go waaaaaaaaaaay past 1000 draws.....this is where there are mathematical rules called degrees of certainty for percentage values come into play,
check out the never drawn list the proof is right there.....and yes your odds are 1/1000 if you play 1000 combinations but who would want to do that ?
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OfflineQuote: Originally posted by crow on Jan 12, 2012
look at the list i posted where all those straight played combinations went past 3000 draws..
why keep on denying the never drawn list ?
its obvious you misundestand what im saying
yes if a person decides to play ONLY ONE STRAIGHT PLAYED COMBINATION it can go past 1000 draws....!!!!
this means your odds of winning are not 1 out of 1000 draws for a (straight played combination)....it can go waaaaaaaaaaay past 1000 draws.....this is where there are mathematical rules called degrees of certainty for percentage values come into play,
check out the never drawn list the proof is right there.....and yes your odds are 1/1000 if you play 1000 combinations but who would want to do that ?
You really gotta share a link with everyone here so we can all learn your awesome mathematics, really man, this is great stuff!!
Am i denying a never drawn list? I just posted one, perhaps you missed it again, just like all those other facts i have posted.
You are mixing up some things here. Ofcourse a number can go past 1000 draws before showing up, i showed that in that little list i posted half an hour ago which has info on all the states. And i know, it is a little list, one might have trouble finding it, i admit. lol
As you might see in that list, if you can find it, when all straights have come in, in a range between approx. 5500 draws and 6500 draws. And this is for all those states out there, can you imagine that? Some states in there have 4 pre-draws, others have 15 pre-draws, yet those stats stay the same. You gotta help me out here man, we really need to find where the error is in my calculations, because that can't be right, can it now? You said the predraws are affecting everything, so those numbers must be wrong when there is a difference in how many pre-draws one state has and how many pre-draws another state has.So, because a number can go beyond 1000 draws before hitting, the odds change? Correct?
You know, there are formula's to calculate odds, and as far i can tell, the odds in a pick3 game are not that difficult to calculate, but then again, that's just me.
I would give my life to get my hands on that formula!! So what are the odds exactly for 1 number in a pick3 game? How does one calculate them?
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Quote: Originally posted by paurths on Jan 12, 2012
You really gotta share a link with everyone here so we can all learn your awesome mathematics, really man, this is great stuff!!
Am i denying a never drawn list? I just posted one, perhaps you missed it again, just like all those other facts i have posted.
You are mixing up some things here. Ofcourse a number can go past 1000 draws before showing up, i showed that in that little list i posted half an hour ago which has info on all the states. And i know, it is a little list, one might have trouble finding it, i admit. lol
As you might see in that list, if you can find it, when all straights have come in, in a range between approx. 5500 draws and 6500 draws. And this is for all those states out there, can you imagine that? Some states in there have 4 pre-draws, others have 15 pre-draws, yet those stats stay the same. You gotta help me out here man, we really need to find where the error is in my calculations, because that can't be right, can it now? You said the predraws are affecting everything, so those numbers must be wrong when there is a difference in how many pre-draws one state has and how many pre-draws another state has.So, because a number can go beyond 1000 draws before hitting, the odds change? Correct?
You know, there are formula's to calculate odds, and as far i can tell, the odds in a pick3 game are not that difficult to calculate, but then again, that's just me.
I would give my life to get my hands on that formula!! So what are the odds exactly for 1 number in a pick3 game? How does one calculate them?
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OfflineQuote: Originally posted by crow on Jan 12, 2012
It seems you forgot to answer, again...
So what are the odds exactly for 1 number in a pick3 game? How does one calculate them?
(Surely, such an easy question should be totally not difficult for a person of your ability to answer... or is it too difficult a question?)lasas3
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OfflineQuote: Originally posted by ironcheese on Jan 12, 2012
Crow, do you combine Midday and Evening draws? Please explain why or why not. Perhaps that will help explain your reasoning.
This is an interesting question, that Ironcheese addressed at you Crow.
Again an easy question, still, there is no answer...lasas3
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Crow you are the funniest Bat I know
What you're stating can not be proved...
How do you prove that Pre draws corrupt people's strategies? Losing Tickets?
If so then you win ..because I'm pretty sure you have alot of them.
We had a run in before on the CT thread and you kept
insisting on this "Bell Curve" drama. You put up 2 pairs daily
and played the bases and called that your system. Whooptie Doo!!
Then you tried to critisize what you THOUGHT was my method and I proved
you wrong with like 4 straight hits in one week using like 3 to 6 combos only.
Then I never saw you back on the CT thread again.
Do you even like the lottery games?
Because you constantly bash the lotto executives
Before I leave this thread alone...I'll tell you what I told you last yr...
Instead of constantly critisizing others , because your theories & systems are failures ...
Spend some more time with some of the bigger heads on here...fine tune your skills and make some Money guy!!!
The goal is to approach the Pick 3 & Pick 4 game sensibly and systematically!!
I'm not like the guy who predicted the end of the world and nothing happened.
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Quote: Originally posted by CTNY on Jan 13, 2012
Crow you are the funniest Bat I know
What you're stating can not be proved...
How do you prove that Pre draws corrupt people's strategies? Losing Tickets?
If so then you win ..because I'm pretty sure you have alot of them.
We had a run in before on the CT thread and you kept
insisting on this "Bell Curve" drama. You put up 2 pairs daily
and played the bases and called that your system. Whooptie Doo!!
Then you tried to critisize what you THOUGHT was my method and I proved
you wrong with like 4 straight hits in one week using like 3 to 6 combos only.
Then I never saw you back on the CT thread again.
Do you even like the lottery games?
Because you constantly bash the lotto executives
Before I leave this thread alone...I'll tell you what I told you last yr...
Instead of constantly critisizing others , because your theories & systems are failures ...
Spend some more time with some of the bigger heads on here...fine tune your skills and make some Money guy!!!
So does this mean that youre winning tons of money with rickey's system ? If you answer yes then ill forever think youre a liar.
Huh, answer that you drive by troll ?..... you cant because youre lying just like all others who brag about winning money on lotterypost from systems youve been hoodwinked into buying off the internet.
When if ever have i put that much confidence the the bell curve approach ?
I know one thing and that is youve lost your azzz playing these systems that you yourself are bragging about in the above post and the only thing different about you and i is that you lack the honesty to admit it .
The main reason i post in many different forums is to test all the many different systems out there and rickey's as well as many other posters do....dont think i havent tested yours either drama queen.
Its obvious you lack the comprehension skills needed to address what this thread is about hence your idiotic reply....its ok though cause ill just look over it and consider the source....... right back at ya homie girl---->.
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Quote: Originally posted by paurths on Jan 13, 2012
It seems you forgot to answer, again...
So what are the odds exactly for 1 number in a pick3 game? How does one calculate them?
(Surely, such an easy question should be totally not difficult for a person of your ability to answer... or is it too difficult a question?)I put that graph up so you'd shut up when proof was offered up however youre still here....anyone with any credibility/dignity would have already bowed out an left.
Do you want a 50% chance of winning while playing a single straight played combination ?
Then it is 692 draws.......this also means that the higher percentage value you want the more draws have to take place
You know why youre a good conn man, rickey ?
Because you actually have the ability to convince people of the worthless trash you sell and make money off of it .....just like the pet rock salesman
Now continue to lie and say the reference at the bottom of the page you constantly post isnt free advertizing and you try to usurp that by buying a platinum subscription in hopes that todd wont raise hellll.
Like ive said many times before youve gotten way toooo much free advertizing so get the helll outta my thread cause im growing tired of your tricks and games
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OfflineQuote: Originally posted by crow on Jan 13, 2012
So does this mean that youre winning tons of money with rickey's system ? If you answer yes then ill forever think youre a liar.
Huh, answer that you drive by troll ?..... you cant because youre lying just like all others who brag about winning money on lotterypost from systems youve been hoodwinked into buying off the internet.
When if ever have i put that much confidence the the bell curve approach ?
I know one thing and that is youve lost your azzz playing these systems that you yourself are bragging about in the above post and the only thing different about you and i is that you lack the honesty to admit it .
The main reason i post in many different forums is to test all the many different systems out there and rickey's as well as many other posters do....dont think i havent tested yours either drama queen.
Its obvious you lack the comprehension skills needed to address what this thread is about hence your idiotic reply....its ok though cause ill just look over it and consider the source....... right back at ya homie girl---->.
...to address what this thread is about...
This thread seems to be about you being unable to answer to questions.
Furthermore it seems to be about mathematics you are using that are unknown to anyone else on this planet.
So i am very, very & very interested in such mathematics, and i don't doubt lots of others would like to learn mathematics that are not from this universe.To be honest, any time now i truly expect a post from you in which you write something like "join us, join the darkside"
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OfflineQuote: Originally posted by crow on Jan 13, 2012
I put that graph up so you'd shut up when proof was offered up however youre still here....anyone with any credibility/dignity would have already bowed out an left.
Do you want a 50% chance of winning while playing a single straight played combination ?
Then it is 692 draws.......this also means that the higher percentage value you want the more draws have to take place
You know why youre a good conn man, rickey ?
Because you actually have the ability to convince people of the worthless trash you sell and make money off of it .....just like the pet rock salesman
Now continue to lie and say the reference at the bottom of the page you constantly post isnt free advertizing and you try to usurp that by buying a platinum subscription in hopes that todd wont raise hellll.
Like ive said many times before youve gotten way toooo much free advertizing so get the helll outta my thread cause im growing tired of your tricks and games
It is truly impressive mathematics you are showing here. And your "proof" is so well build with facts & figures, it is almost unbelievable for any mortal.
So the odds in a pick3 game, playing 1 single number, out of 1000, is... tada... 692 draws..., oh no, wait, that will only give you a 50% chance, so the odds are really 1 to 1384 in game where there are 1000 possible outcomes. That is one strange "odd" lol.
And it doesn't end there, so it seems. This is only true when less drawhistory is present than...? , well, than more drawhistory LOL man, you're funny.It's like saying, "i was driving the highway, and my average speed was 4 gallons"
My tricks? You mean the data from real live draws?
I can imagine that is upsetting you, it are statistics that are calculated using mathematics used all over this planet.It is pretty much time you call it a day on calling people trolls, liars, conn men, but mostly trolls.
In fact, what is it with you and that concept, "trolls" ? Everyone who does not agree with you, well, that is a troll...
so get the helll outta my thread
Your thread? I wasn't aware you owned LotteryPost...
Just keep to the facts & numbers, just stop with calling people names, it will make room for discussion & debate, a concept you have never heard of so it seems...
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Nope, no graph coming through. IE shows a blank picture box with the properties gambling-gif.
Must not be important enough to be on the internet.
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Quote: Originally posted by crow on Jan 13, 2012
I put that graph up so you'd shut up when proof was offered up however youre still here....anyone with any credibility/dignity would have already bowed out an left.
Do you want a 50% chance of winning while playing a single straight played combination ?
Then it is 692 draws.......this also means that the higher percentage value you want the more draws have to take place
You know why youre a good conn man, rickey ?
Because you actually have the ability to convince people of the worthless trash you sell and make money off of it .....just like the pet rock salesman
Now continue to lie and say the reference at the bottom of the page you constantly post isnt free advertizing and you try to usurp that by buying a platinum subscription in hopes that todd wont raise hellll.
Like ive said many times before youve gotten way toooo much free advertizing so get the helll outta my thread cause im growing tired of your tricks and games
692 & 50%? Now I recognize this from IonSaliu's work from years ago.
That's where I first saw it. Here's the way it works (as I grasp it), for folks who've never seen it ...
1) The game has 1000 combos and you play one of them (straight), per round.
2) That makes 1 way to win & 999 ways to lose. 999 ways to lose = 999/1000 = 0.999, which means your odds of winning the bet is 1/1000 or 0.001
3) Play 2 rounds, your chances of losing both rounds is 0.999 * 0.999 [a.k.a. 0.999 ^ 2], which is ~0.998, which means your chances of winning one or both bets is ~0.002
4) Doing this over and over, the odds of you having won [not to be confused with winning a particular round] 1 or more bets gradually increases.
5) Eventually, there is a number of rounds X, such that 0.999 ^ X gives you a 50% chance of having won something within those X number of rounds. That covers winning 1 out of X rounds all the way up to winning all X out of X rounds.
You might expect this to be 500, since there are 1000 combinations, but that's not the case.
The number that fits this is 692. 0.999 ^ 692 = ~0.500
If the thread had just been called Fundamental Formula of Gambling, the old heads would've immediately known what was being talked about and we could have saved all these pages.
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