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OfflineQuote: Originally posted by on Jan 11, 2012
again, those are your templates of what you think passes as proof of no change. I don't use highs and lows and evens and odds, and whatever else you have in there.
for you to paint a complete picture, you'd have to do a back test of what a given person may use as their strategy, not yours. Your was is NOT the universal method of how others may examine numbers...CAPICHE ?
Well come on then, this is the best moment to show everyone what you do use and how you calculate it. Come on somer, show it now, before the earth dies.
You and crow are telling alot of people here Great Stories. Don't you think you or crow should at least come up with some formula's or such to confirm your statements? No?
Mathematics is the only universal language. So it should totally not be difficult to present this to everyone. Most of them got Excel and might be ready to enter your magic formula's and then they will all say "yes, this is it". No? (unless ofcourse Excel is evil software also...)(i am very, and i mean very confident once again you will not show anything... just as always..., so just prove me wrong, should be really easy for a man of your skills, after reading all your posts that are just loaded with facts)
And believe me, if you come up with facts, i will study them. And if they show me i have been wrong, i am man enough to say then "okay, thanks for pointing that out to me"
Can you bring yourself to do the same?
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Quote: Originally posted by JAP69 on Jan 11, 2012
Drawings are a random event from draw to draw.
actual draw history will average out over time.
balls by position 6,258 draws
Drawn By Position | Draw Frequency | Since Drawn | Most Frequent
P1 P2 P3 Ttl| P1 P2 P3 Ttl| P1 P2 P3 | Pairs Doubles
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0: 632 688 596 1916| 9.9 9.1 10.5 3.3| 6 5 12 | 9 (367) 6 (26)
1: 632 619 660 1911| 9.9 10.1 9.5 3.3| 36 4 6 | 2 (360) 5 (27)
2: 650 659 625 1934| 9.6 9.5 10.0 3.2| 9 35 9 | 5 (361) 4 (25)
3: 593 600 680 1873| 10.6 10.4 9.2 3.3| 17 2 17 | 4 (361) 2 (23)
4: 631 623 637 1891| 9.9 10.0 9.8 3.3| 0 12 29 | 3 (361) 3 (25)
5: 607 631 643 1881| 10.3 9.9 9.7 3.3| 18 1 3 | 2 (361) 6 (25)
6: 612 570 574 1756| 10.2 11.0 10.9 3.6| 2 10 1 | 8 (338) 7 (24)
7: 650 596 614 1860| 9.6 10.5 10.2 3.4| 10 25 0 | 0 (362) 0 (23)
8: 636 628 593 1857| 9.8 10.0 10.6 3.4| 1 15 7 | 1 (353) 6 (26)
9: 615 644 636 1895| 10.2 9.7 9.8 3.3| 14 0 15 | 0 (367) 4 (25)
Pre draws do not corrupt my game as the actual draw history is enough for me to use.
The longest out ball by position is 1-2-4
If I do a search on that actual draw history the 1-2-4 by either position have been out a total of 29 draws with a most out of 23 draws using 6,258 draws.
One of those balls will drop by position shortly I would gather.There are options on how to use this info.
Actual draw stats are locatable using the many options in software to find something that will drop in a reasonable length of time.
Some draw history of the 1-2-4 by position search
Number search of SC3 A M&E.dmg: All Records Printed: 01-11-2012
Pos.1 = 1 Pos.2 = 2 Pos.3 = 4 Pos.4 = None Exact Order, Any Numbers
1723 Records Found 1723 Selected Records Printed PageRecord Date P1 P2 P3 Matched Skips
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6164 11/21/2011 4 8 4 1 15
6165 11/21/2011 7 6 4 1 0
6167 11/22/2011 3 6 4 1 1
6172 11/25/2011 6 2 7 1 4
6178 11/28/2011 7 2 5 1 5
6180 11/29/2011 1 5 0 1 1
6181 11/30/2011 1 2 8 2 0
6186 12/02/2011 0 2 5 1 4
6188 12/03/2011 5 2 3 1 1
6190 12/05/2011 1 8 4 2 1
6191 12/05/2011 1 4 3 1 0
6195 12/07/2011 9 2 0 1 3
6198 12/09/2011 6 7 4 1 2
6200 12/10/2011 0 2 0 1 1
6201 12/10/2011 8 2 4 2 0
6205 12/13/2011 4 5 4 1 3
6206 12/13/2011 1 6 0 1 0
6209 12/15/2011 2 2 6 1 2
6210 12/15/2011 1 1 2 1 0
6211 12/16/2011 1 1 6 1 0
6214 12/17/2011 2 2 9 1 2
6215 12/18/2011 0 0 4 1 0
6216 12/19/2011 6 2 3 1 0
6221 12/21/2011 1 8 9 1 4
6222 12/22/2011 1 8 9 1 0
6223 12/22/2011 0 2 0 1 0
6229 12/26/2011 8 1 4 1 5Pre draws do not corrupt my game
126 fell tonight
The longest out ball by position is 1-2-4
If I do a search on that actual draw history the 1-2-4 by either position have been out a total of 29 draws with a most out of 23 draws using 6,258 draws.
Numbers are where you find them.
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somer, there has been nothing presented that proves, or should lead anyone to believe a pretest, a ball set, ball machine, or any other outside influence affects the outcome of the draw.
The only person I have ever heard allude to the thought was jimjwright who mentioned he felt his predictions were better if he could guess the correct ball set or machine. If that works for jim, more power to him! I recognize it is his opinion and I respect that.
I did Texas because I live there. I play there. I don't track other games mainly because I don't have time.
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Quote: Originally posted by paurths on Jan 11, 2012
Well come on then, this is the best moment to show everyone what you do use and how you calculate it. Come on somer, show it now, before the earth dies.
You and crow are telling alot of people here Great Stories. Don't you think you or crow should at least come up with some formula's or such to confirm your statements? No?
Mathematics is the only universal language. So it should totally not be difficult to present this to everyone. Most of them got Excel and might be ready to enter your magic formula's and then they will all say "yes, this is it". No? (unless ofcourse Excel is evil software also...)(i am very, and i mean very confident once again you will not show anything... just as always..., so just prove me wrong, should be really easy for a man of your skills, after reading all your posts that are just loaded with facts)
And believe me, if you come up with facts, i will study them. And if they show me i have been wrong, i am man enough to say then "okay, thanks for pointing that out to me"
Can you bring yourself to do the same?
I look at pairs mainly, and dates that play into the equation when making my choices. Plug that into your computer and tel me if the stats are still the same with pre tests, ball sets, and machine rotaions taken in account, then call me in the morning.
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Quote: Originally posted by paurths on Jan 11, 2012
Machine rotations? Look up Texas one more time dude... and you know, they are not from other planets, some actually answer emails
Checkpoints?
Hey, don't blame me for mathematics.
Have you sent an email to the universities yet?
You should, they will be glad to hear mathematics & statistics they teach is totally wrong...
And don't worry if they ask for proof, they wont. No doubt they will just accept your word on it!what's beneficial to you may not be to me, or joe schmo, or anyone else. Get IT?
So, what kind of mathematics do you use then? Enlighten us please.
How should i understand this?
Let me try:
In a pick3 game there are 1000 straight numbers. Let's take a structure of 50 straight numbers. In my world this means their mathematical average skip is 20 draws (my math is easy, just divide 1000 by 50, and that gives 20)
What does your math say about such things?Or:
I go into a store, i buy product A and product B and i pay = (Price of product A) + (Price of product B)For you it is different? You use another type of math? How much do you pay for product A and (or? if? if then else? Switch? Logical OR? Logical AND?...) product B?
Ricky, this isnt your own personal forum where you get to promote your software and to keep doing it shows your lack of credit.
No college professor out there would put any credit whatsoever in your techniques because they arent founded in statistics to begin with and ill bring up the followers list that you sell in your program as proof.
You know dayumm well that combinations dont follow each other and i personally have run thousands upon thousands of simulations proving that they dont .....matter of fact theyre no better than random
Its funny how youre the only software developer that came by to complain not that any of this was ever about you.
The truth is that you really dont care if your program works or not cause its all about making $$$$$$$$ from selling it.
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THE ISSUE WITH NC PRE AND POST TEST DRAWS IS THAT THEY ARE THOUGHT TO BE EXCESSIVE - SOMETIMES UP TO 16 AND AS MANY AS NECESSARY THEY HAVE TOLD US- IT MAKES ME AND OTHERS WONDER IF OTHER STATES HAVE THAT MANY. IS IT NORMAL TO HAVE UP TO 16.
YES I AM SHOUTING!! ALL STATES HAVE PRE-POST TESTS BUT WHAT IS TOO MANY?
THE ISSUE HERE IS THE NUMBER OF PRE/POST TESTS NOT THAT THEY HAPPEN! THAT'S A GIVEN.
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Quote: Originally posted by Tenaj on Jan 11, 2012
THE ISSUE WITH NC PRE AND POST TEST DRAWS IS THAT THEY ARE THOUGHT TO BE EXCESSIVE - SOMETIMES UP TO 16 AND AS MANY AS NECESSARY THEY HAVE TOLD US- IT MAKES ME AND OTHERS WONDER IF OTHER STATES HAVE THAT MANY. IS IT NORMAL TO HAVE UP TO 16.
YES I AM SHOUTING!! ALL STATES HAVE PRE-POST TESTS BUT WHAT IS TOO MANY?
THE ISSUE HERE IS THE NUMBER OF PRE/POST TESTS NOT THAT THEY HAPPEN! THAT'S A GIVEN.
Yes I think that many pre and post test are excessive. I do not understand why they even have post test. The drawing is over with.
Quite obvious they read lottery boards and want to mess with what players are doing. How many people read this thread and say to themself, why should I even bother buying, creating or using software to track the game if they have this going on.
I understood a long time back state lotteries generally had about 4 pre test. mainly to see that the balls were not tampered with. Do not remember if I read about post test back then.
Numbers are where you find them.
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Quote: Originally posted by JAP69 on Jan 11, 2012
Yes I think that many pre and post test are excessive. I do not understand why they even have post test. The drawing is over with.
Quite obvious they read lottery boards and want to mess with what players are doing. How many people read this thread and say to themself, why should I even bother buying, creating or using software to track the game if they have this going on.
I understood a long time back state lotteries generally had about 4 pre test. mainly to see that the balls were not tampered with. Do not remember if I read about post test back then.
I also think the state lottery officals are from ear to ear reading this and the discouragement it puts into players reading it.
Numbers are where you find them.
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Quote: Originally posted by JAP69 on Jan 11, 2012
Yes I think that many pre and post test are excessive. I do not understand why they even have post test. The drawing is over with.
Quite obvious they read lottery boards and want to mess with what players are doing. How many people read this thread and say to themself, why should I even bother buying, creating or using software to track the game if they have this going on.
I understood a long time back state lotteries generally had about 4 pre test. mainly to see that the balls were not tampered with. Do not remember if I read about post test back then.
Thanks for replying Jap69. They have 4 pre-tests and 5 post tests standard for them and have told us that they have more when they need to. Like I said before when I got the history from them, some were up to 16 some were 9. I think that's what the issue is and the information is not readily available, it's months back.
takeemtothebank
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Quote: Originally posted by Tenaj on Jan 11, 2012
Thanks for replying Jap69. They have 4 pre-tests and 5 post tests standard for them and have told us that they have more when they need to. Like I said before when I got the history from them, some were up to 16 some were 9. I think that's what the issue is and the information is not readily available, it's months back.
It would appear to me that they are attempting to break up the drawing stats cycle having random amounts of pre and post test drawings.
I would almost guess they have lottery software of their own checking on the randomness of the actual draws. Software users rely heavily on stats on what they want to play.
Numbers are where you find them.
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Quote: Originally posted by Tenaj on Jan 11, 2012
THE ISSUE WITH NC PRE AND POST TEST DRAWS IS THAT THEY ARE THOUGHT TO BE EXCESSIVE - SOMETIMES UP TO 16 AND AS MANY AS NECESSARY THEY HAVE TOLD US- IT MAKES ME AND OTHERS WONDER IF OTHER STATES HAVE THAT MANY. IS IT NORMAL TO HAVE UP TO 16.
YES I AM SHOUTING!! ALL STATES HAVE PRE-POST TESTS BUT WHAT IS TOO MANY?
THE ISSUE HERE IS THE NUMBER OF PRE/POST TESTS NOT THAT THEY HAPPEN! THAT'S A GIVEN.
Dunno if it is normal or not. It might be written in the contract the state has with G-Tech, or part of the by-laws of the lottery commission of the state.
The only explanation for the post test is to ensure nothing was tampered with during or after the pre-test or during the live draw. Other states may have a post test as well. For all I know Texas might and not publish that fact.
I did see that Texas has had more than 4 pre-tests at times. A few times there were five pre-tests and once there was something like 8. I was thinking that was the first and only time they went to the back up machine. But that is just my thinking. Seems to me there were 13/14 exceptions I had to write to make the program run.
The one thing for sure, it will take more than thought to change state policy. And unfortunately, you're not going to influence people to sign a petition without verifable facts. You don't influence people to share your concern by calling them trolls or idiots, or trying to browbeat them to accept your point of view. Certainly not going to win any software people over by questioning the usefulness of their product, or claiming it don't work. (I'm not speaking of you personally since I've never found you offensive, but if you followed the thread you already know that).
Might want to look at a thread from 2008 "Pre-test draws, Do we have a right to know what they are?" Todd has an interesting response in that thread.
https://www.lotterypost.com/thread/181012
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Quote: Originally posted by garyo1954 on Jan 11, 2012
Dunno if it is normal or not. It might be written in the contract the state has with G-Tech, or part of the by-laws of the lottery commission of the state.
The only explanation for the post test is to ensure nothing was tampered with during or after the pre-test or during the live draw. Other states may have a post test as well. For all I know Texas might and not publish that fact.
I did see that Texas has had more than 4 pre-tests at times. A few times there were five pre-tests and once there was something like 8. I was thinking that was the first and only time they went to the back up machine. But that is just my thinking. Seems to me there were 13/14 exceptions I had to write to make the program run.
The one thing for sure, it will take more than thought to change state policy. And unfortunately, you're not going to influence people to sign a petition without verifable facts. You don't influence people to share your concern by calling them trolls or idiots, or trying to browbeat them to accept your point of view. Certainly not going to win any software people over by questioning the usefulness of their product, or claiming it don't work. (I'm not speaking of you personally since I've never found you offensive, but if you followed the thread you already know that).
Might want to look at a thread from 2008 "Pre-test draws, Do we have a right to know what they are?" Todd has an interesting response in that thread.
https://www.lotterypost.com/thread/181012
Thanks for your response garyo1954.
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OfflineQuote: Originally posted by crow on Jan 11, 2012
Ricky, this isnt your own personal forum where you get to promote your software and to keep doing it shows your lack of credit.
No college professor out there would put any credit whatsoever in your techniques because they arent founded in statistics to begin with and ill bring up the followers list that you sell in your program as proof.
You know dayumm well that combinations dont follow each other and i personally have run thousands upon thousands of simulations proving that they dont .....matter of fact theyre no better than random
Its funny how youre the only software developer that came by to complain not that any of this was ever about you.
The truth is that you really dont care if your program works or not cause its all about making $$$$$$$$ from selling it.
I must have missed something i wrote there... You bring it up every time you can, but can you show me where exactly i write anything about software in the post you quoted?
To make it easy for you, this is the post you quoted, should be easy for you to point out where i mentioned anything about <any> software
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Machine rotations? Look up Texas one more time dude... and you know, they are not from other planets, some actually answer emails
Checkpoints?
Hey, don't blame me for mathematics.
Have you sent an email to the universities yet?
You should, they will be glad to hear mathematics & statistics they teach is totally wrong...
And don't worry if they ask for proof, they wont. No doubt they will just accept your word on it!what's beneficial to you may not be to me, or joe schmo, or anyone else. Get IT?
So, what kind of mathematics do you use then? Enlighten us please.
How should i understand this?
Let me try:
In a pick3 game there are 1000 straight numbers. Let's take a structure of 50 straight numbers. In my world this means their mathematical average skip is 20 draws (my math is easy, just divide 1000 by 50, and that gives 20)
What does your math say about such things?Or:
I go into a store, i buy product A and product B and i pay = (Price of product A) + (Price of product B)For you it is different? You use another type of math? How much do you pay for product A and (or? if? if then else? Switch? Logical OR? Logical AND?...) product B?
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OfflineQuote: Originally posted by paurths on Jan 10, 2012
If pre-draws mess up strategy, this would mean, it is inherent to it per definition, the statistics of structures would show this. So when you have a strategy that uses structures, you are scr.w.d... according to some...
I could just write "no, not true", or "yes, very true" and be on my way.
Or, i could show data collected from different "games" and compare the data to see which side i should pick.
This is usually how scientist do it. They don't just say "the moon is 100 miles away" and another says "no, the moon is 1000000 miles away".
To find out how far the moon is, they will measure the distance and come to a conclusion based on that data, based on facts.
Any given structure is "created" with a set of numbers. For example the HHH pattern will have 125 numbers (straight).Ideally, this structure should show itself in the draws once in every 8 draws. Whenever a number with only high digits comes in, this is a HHH.
This means the Mathematical Average skip can be used to observe if the Real Average skip is far off. In a "fixed" game this would show, in real life when you throw a coin, from which each side has a Mathematical Average skip of 2, you will find one side will sometimes fall several times in a row before the other side falls. No one is fixing behind your back or when you blinked, it is just the way it is.This goes for any structure there is. Some structures have 125 straight numbers, others have for example 27 numbers (OSS OpenStraightStraight)
If pre-draws mess up, this would mean this would be shown in the statistics.
Below is a grid of some straight structures: HighLow, OddEven, DigitSort (LMH), OpenClosedStraight, LMH structured numbers (L:0, 1, 2 and M: 3, 4, 5, 6 and H: 7, 8, 9) and InOut.
The first column show the (short)name of the structure, the second column shows the Mathematical Average skip.
In this grid you will find the following "states"
Texas midday - real draws: these are the draws on which you can bet
Texas midday - Pre-draws: these are the draws on which you can not bet, they are held before the real draw
Texas midday - Pre-draws + real draws: a combination of both the real draws and the pre-draws.
New Jersey evening draws (for the last 10 years only) : New Jersey is a ball machine game
California Evening draws (for the last 10 years only) : California uses a RNG (Random Number Generator, or simply put, a computer)
RNG 3570 draws: This is not a real state, it has draws that were created using my own Random Number Generator (just the same as you can find here at LP)For each of these "states" the grid shows how many times a structure has "hit", and the RealTime average skip has been calculated.
Up to you to compare the data, compare average skips, and come to your own conclusion.
No hocus pocus here, just facts!. . Texas midday NJ Eve (last 10 years) CA eve (last 10 years) RNG 3570 draws (10 years draws) . . Real draws Pre-draws Pre-draws and real draws . . . . . . Straight stats Math Av skip Times Av. skip Times Av. skip Times Av. skip Times Av. skip Times Av. skip Times Av. skip HHH 8 388 7,83 1011 7,46 1399 7,57 408 8,75 426 8,38 471 7,58 HHL 8 380 8, 929 8,12 1309 8,09 408 8,75 470 7,6 441 8,1 HLH 8 345 8,81 926 8,15 1271 8,33 448 7,97 413 8,65 452 7,9 LHH 8 406 7,49 926 8,15 1332 7,95 442 8,08 448 7,97 439 8,13 LLL 8 360 8,44 890 8,48 1250 8,47 485 7,36 470 7,6 426 8,38 LLH 8 380 8, 944 7,99 1324 7,99 521 6,86 467 7,65 449 7,95 LHL 8 401 7,58 961 7,85 1362 7,77 414 8,63 476 7,5 441 8,1 HLL 8 379 8,02 959 7,87 1338 7,91 446 8,01 402 8,89 451 7,92 EEE 8 401 7,58 939 8,04 1340 7,9 456 7,83 488 7,32 484 7,38 EEO 8 355 8,56 901 8,38 1256 8,43 496 7,2 456 7,83 456 7,83 EOE 8 393 7,73 964 7,83 1357 7,8 401 8,91 406 8,8 473 7,55 OEE 8 364 8,35 978 7,72 1342 7,89 453 7,89 463 7,71 419 8,52 OOO 8 359 8,47 944 7,99 1303 8,12 448 7,97 429 8,33 416 8,58 OOE 8 380 8, 955 7,9 1335 7,93 411 8,69 424 8,42 436 8,19 OEO 8 393 7,73 903 8,36 1296 8,17 421 8,48 432 8,27 447 7,99 EOO 8 394 7,71 962 7,84 1356 7,81 486 7,35 474 7,54 439 8,13 LMH 7,69 359 8,47 926 8,15 1285 8,24 445 8,03 430 8,31 444 8,04 LHM 7,69 409 7,43 925 8,16 1334 7,93 430 8,31 439 8,14 427 8,36 MLH 7,69 364 8,35 853 8,85 1217 8,7 450 7,94 443 8,06 460 7,76 MHL 7,69 361 8,42 886 8,52 1247 8,49 405 8,82 462 7,73 426 8,38 HLM 7,69 342 8,89 929 8,12 1271 8,33 432 8,27 409 8,73 402 8,88 HML 7,69 391 7,77 908 8,31 1299 8,15 386 9,25 442 8,08 424 8,42 LLH 18,18 130 23,38 349 21,62 479 22,1 191 18,7 143 24,98 154 23,18 LHL 18,18 137 22,18 346 21,81 483 21,92 148 24,14 153 23,35 154 23,18 HLL 18,18 132 23,02 336 22,46 468 22,62 158 22,61 164 21,78 163 21,9 LHH 18,18 141 21,55 320 23,58 461 22,96 163 21,91 132 27,06 173 20,64 HLH 18,18 137 22,18 347 21,75 484 21,87 153 23,35 167 21,39 137 26,06 HHL 18,18 110 27,63 345 21,87 455 23,26 169 21,14 150 23,81 167 21,38 OCS 27,77 117 25,97 278 27,14 395 26,8 112 31,89 126 28,35 125 28,56 OSC 27,77 104 29,22 269 28,05 373 28,38 155 23,05 128 27,91 132 27,05 COS 27,77 107 28,4 272 27,74 379 27,93 128 27,91 134 26,66 114 31,32 CSO 27,77 109 27,88 299 25,24 408 25,94 109 32,77 137 26,07 136 26,25 SOC 27,77 120 25,33 266 28,37 386 27,42 129 27,69 130 27,48 124 28,79 SCO 27,77 107 28,4 245 30,8 352 30,07 122 29,28 128 27,91 142 25,14 OOO 37,04 76 39,99 195 38,7 271 39,06 104 34,35 94 38, 92 38,8 OOC 27,77 93 32,68 294 25,67 387 27,35 139 25,7 113 31,61 137 26,06 OCO 27,77 114 26,66 270 27,95 384 27,57 147 24,3 132 27,06 119 30, COO 27,77 92 33,03 294 25,67 386 27,42 145 24,63 117 30,53 121 29,5 OOS 37,04 85 35,75 209 36,11 294 36, 90 39,69 81 44,1 92 38,8 OSO 37,04 72 42,21 191 39,51 263 40,25 102 35,02 103 34,68 85 42, SOO 37,04 74 41,07 200 37,73 274 38,63 89 40,13 104 34,35 92 38,8 CCC 15,63 196 15,51 466 16,19 662 15,99 222 16,09 222 16,09 246 14,51 CCO 20,83 136 22,35 373 20,23 509 20,8 153 23,35 165 21,65 183 19,51 COC 20,83 164 18,53 372 20,28 536 19,75 160 22,33 188 19, 178 20,06 OCC 20,83 150 20,26 365 20,67 515 20,55 174 20,53 184 19,41 177 20,17 CCS 20,83 161 18,88 337 22,39 498 21,26 176 20,3 179 19,96 170 21, CSC 20,83 129 23,56 351 21,5 480 22,05 166 21,52 171 20,89 204 17,5 SCC 20,83 153 19,86 366 20,62 519 20,39 158 22,61 173 20,65 164 21,77 SSS 37,04 67 45,36 199 37,92 266 39,79 112 31,89 105 34,02 77 46,36 SSO 37,04 75 40,52 219 34,46 294 36, 108 33,07 111 32,18 109 32,75 SOS 37,04 87 34,93 189 39,93 276 38,35 101 35,37 84 42,52 71 50,28 OSS 37,04 82 37,06 198 38,11 280 37,8 95 37,6 98 36,45 113 31,59 SSC 27,77 114 26,66 289 26,11 403 26,27 131 27,27 104 34,35 135 26,44 SCS 27,77 130 23,38 269 28,05 399 26,53 127 28,13 133 26,86 105 34, CSS 27,77 125 24,31 271 27,85 396 26,73 118 30,27 128 27,91 127 28,11 LMH 27,77 111 27,38 261 28,91 372 28,45 140 25,51 123 29,04 144 24,79 LHM 27,77 126 24,12 302 24,99 428 24,73 115 31,06 124 28,81 127 28,11 MLH 27,77 97 31,33 254 29,71 351 30,16 139 25,7 128 27,91 126 28,33 MHL 27,77 127 23,93 253 29,83 380 27,86 115 31,06 155 23,05 137 26,06 HLM 27,77 85 35,75 261 28,91 346 30,59 140 25,51 109 32,77 105 34, HML 27,77 108 28,14 277 27,24 385 27,49 103 34,68 116 30,79 131 27,25 LLL 37,04 74 41,07 192 39,3 266 39,79 101 35,37 100 35,72 98 36,43 LLM 27,77 119 25,54 247 30,55 366 28,92 144 24,81 132 27,06 111 32,16 LML 27,77 104 29,22 247 30,55 351 30,16 127 28,13 145 24,63 114 31,32 MLL 27,77 126 24,12 280 26,95 406 26,07 128 27,91 138 25,88 131 27,25 LLH 37,04 81 37,52 205 36,81 286 37,01 115 31,06 98 36,45 119 30, LHL 37,04 98 31,01 226 33,39 324 32,67 98 36,45 88 40,59 108 33,06 HLL 37,04 86 35,34 193 39,1 279 37,94 87 41,06 107 33,38 91 39,23 MMM 15,63 182 16,7 494 15,28 676 15,66 225 15,88 237 15,07 227 15,73 MML 20,83 127 23,93 367 20,56 494 21,43 198 18,04 163 21,91 158 22,59 MLM 20,83 128 23,74 362 20,85 490 21,6 169 21,14 162 22,05 169 21,12 LMM 20,83 142 21,4 354 21,32 496 21,34 192 18,6 175 20,41 167 21,38 MMH 20,83 140 21,71 388 19,45 528 20,05 178 20,07 163 21,91 165 21,64 MHM 20,83 149 20,4 372 20,28 521 20,32 156 22,9 185 19,31 156 22,88 HMM 20,83 151 20,13 388 19,45 539 19,64 156 22,9 168 21,26 175 20,4 HHH 37,04 87 34,93 191 39,51 278 38,08 83 43,04 91 39,25 96 37,19 HHL 37,04 78 38,96 216 34,94 294 36, 107 33,38 91 39,25 92 38,8 HLH 37,04 82 37,06 211 35,76 293 36,13 100 35,72 92 38,83 93 38,39 LHH 37,04 91 33,4 194 38,9 285 37,14 85 42,02 100 35,72 98 36,43 HHM 27,77 92 33,03 272 27,74 364 29,08 106 33,7 128 27,91 143 24,97 HMH 27,77 127 23,93 266 28,37 393 26,93 124 28,81 141 25,33 132 27,05 MHH 27,77 121 25,12 273 27,64 394 26,87 141 25,33 113 31,61 157 22,74 III 8 364 8,35 971 7,77 1335 7,93 430 8,31 468 7,63 445 8,02 IIO 8 347 8,76 976 7,73 1323 8, 467 7,65 407 8,78 433 8,24 IOI 8 362 8,4 951 7,93 1313 8,06 430 8,31 436 8,19 421 8,48 OII 8 372 8,17 978 7,72 1350 7,84 447 7,99 450 7,94 433 8,24 OOI 8 410 7,41 909 8,3 1319 8,03 446 8,01 431 8,29 407 8,77 OIO 8 395 7,69 910 8,29 1305 8,11 429 8,33 491 7,27 472 7,56 IOO 8 408 7,45 897 8,41 1305 8,11 473 7,55 452 7,9 468 7,63 OOO 8 381 7,98 954 7,91 1335 7,93 450 7,94 437 8,17 491 7,27 Let's say i would have removed the name of the "states", is anyone out there that could tell wich "state" is which?
Anyone claiming the pre-draws mess up everything should be able to do so, since they make a claim the data is corrupt, biased, name it... based on ... yes, based on what?
Crow, it seems you missed this post again, so for your convenience, here it is again.
Again something that should be easy for you to point out where exactly the pre-draws mess up the structures.
lasas3
An onion a day keeps everyone away!!!
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Quote: Originally posted by paurths on Jan 11, 2012
I must have missed something i wrote there... You bring it up every time you can, but can you show me where exactly i write anything about software in the post you quoted?
To make it easy for you, this is the post you quoted, should be easy for you to point out where i mentioned anything about <any> software
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Machine rotations? Look up Texas one more time dude... and you know, they are not from other planets, some actually answer emails
Checkpoints?
Hey, don't blame me for mathematics.
Have you sent an email to the universities yet?
You should, they will be glad to hear mathematics & statistics they teach is totally wrong...
And don't worry if they ask for proof, they wont. No doubt they will just accept your word on it!what's beneficial to you may not be to me, or joe schmo, or anyone else. Get IT?
So, what kind of mathematics do you use then? Enlighten us please.
How should i understand this?
Let me try:
In a pick3 game there are 1000 straight numbers. Let's take a structure of 50 straight numbers. In my world this means their mathematical average skip is 20 draws (my math is easy, just divide 1000 by 50, and that gives 20)
What does your math say about such things?Or:
I go into a store, i buy product A and product B and i pay = (Price of product A) + (Price of product B)For you it is different? You use another type of math? How much do you pay for product A and (or? if? if then else? Switch? Logical OR? Logical AND?...) product B?
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Dont you have that listed at the bottom of every reply that you write ?
The name of your software that is ?
I mean that is free advertizing isnt it ..... after all you dont see me or any other software designer doing that , do ya ?
Listen, homie, im gettin a little tired of arguing with you all the time .... plus i need some pizza to calm my nerves from all these heated debate's ive been having here lately.
Just chill out for awhile cause this really isnt that serious as you make it out to be .