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PrisonerSix

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Oct 20, 2022, 9:41 pm

I just finished a test of quick picks from the lottery terminal and Lottery Post. What I did was play a terminal quick pick and a Lottery Post quick pick side by side for 20 drawings on Louisiana Lotto(6/42 minimum 3 to win) and got some interesting results.

The average number of matches per drawing on the terminal quick pick was 0.5 while on the Lottery Post quick pick it was 1.2. In other words, Lottery Post quick picks did better on matching numbers than terminal quick picks.

The median for terminal quick picks was 0 and Lottery Post was 1. Again, Lottery Post did better.

The mode(number of matches that appeared most in the sample) was 0 for terminal quick picks and 2 for Lottery Post quick picks. Most of the terminal quick picks didn't match anything while on Lottery Post, most matched 2 numbers. Looks like Lottery Post won again.

10% of the Lottery Post quick picks won a prize while none of the Terminal quick picks did.

The standard deviation for the terminal was 0.688247 while for Lottery Post it was 1.005249. There was a wider variation between the numbers matched in the Lottery Post quick picks than the terminal quick picks.

Here is a graph of my results with the yellow being Lottery Post and the purple being the terminal quick picks.

I hope someone finds this useful.

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Quote: Originally posted by PrisonerSix on Oct 20, 2022
I just finished a test of quick picks from the lottery terminal and Lottery Post. What I did was play a terminal quick pick and a Lottery Post quick pick side by side for 20 drawings on Louisiana Lotto(6/42 minimum 3 to win) and got some interesting results.

The average number of matches per drawing on the terminal quick pick was 0.5 while on the Lottery Post quick pick it was 1.2. In other words, Lottery Post quick picks did better on matching numbers than terminal quick picks.

The median for terminal quick picks was 0 and Lottery Post was 1. Again, Lottery Post did better.

The mode(number of matches that appeared most in the sample) was 0 for terminal quick picks and 2 for Lottery Post quick picks. Most of the terminal quick picks didn't match anything while on Lottery Post, most matched 2 numbers. Looks like Lottery Post won again.

10% of the Lottery Post quick picks won a prize while none of the Terminal quick picks did.

The standard deviation for the terminal was 0.688247 while for Lottery Post it was 1.005249. There was a wider variation between the numbers matched in the Lottery Post quick picks than the terminal quick picks.

Here is a graph of my results with the yellow being Lottery Post and the purple being the terminal quick picks.

I hope someone finds this useful.

Uuh Ooooh..

We all kinda knew that, but you may've just put Ole Todd on Blast..

Naah dem Gov't Men in CyberBlack iz gonna be dodging LP'z Qpz wit dat 1-digit away dizeasze..

LOz don't want aNyBoDy doin much betta that THEIR louzy QPz...

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Oct 21, 2022, 2:47 pm

I thought that info was very helpful and an interesting analysis. I may try a combination of lp picks when I buy a pb ticket.
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Oct 21, 2022, 2:58 pm

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Oct 21, 2022
I thought that info was very helpful and an interesting analysis. I may try a combination of lp picks when I buy a pb ticket.

Thanks!

I'm thinking of doing a study on LP quick picks for Powerball. One thing that would be interesting to see is if one method works for both sets of numbers.

Would using LP or terminal get better results on the pick 5 and Powerball, or will LP do better on the 5 and terminal on the Powerball? It will interesting to see.

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Oct 21, 2022, 3:53 pm

Nice analysis.

The main thing that makes Lottery Post's Quick Picks Generator better than a lottery terminal is that Lottery Post uses a strong cryptographic random number generator, which is more "truly random" than the psuedo-random number generator in a lottery terminal.

So the numbers coming out of a lottery terminal will tend to follow patterns more and will tend to generate some numbers more than others ("clumps" of similar numbers), whereas Lottery Post will tend to generate better random sequences that lack patterns, and better spread the numbers in a truly random manner.

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Oct 21, 2022, 4:06 pm

Someone did not understand the analysis to think it was putting Todd "on blast. " Quite the opposite actually.
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Oct 21, 2022, 4:08 pm

Quote: Originally posted by PrisonerSix on Oct 21, 2022
Thanks!

I'm thinking of doing a study on LP quick picks for Powerball. One thing that would be interesting to see is if one method works for both sets of numbers.

Would using LP or terminal get better results on the pick 5 and Powerball, or will LP do better on the 5 and terminal on the Powerball? It will interesting to see.

Ok. I did three lp qps and used the first 2 numbers in pick 1, second 2 in qp2, etc to make up one ticket. The pb bonus number was 1.
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Oct 21, 2022, 6:37 pm

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Oct 21, 2022
Someone did not understand the analysis to think it was putting Todd "on blast. " Quite the opposite actually.

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Oct 21, 2022, 8:08 pm

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Oct 21, 2022
Someone did not understand the analysis to think it was putting Todd "on blast. " Quite the opposite actually.

I wuzzn't implyin Todd'z LP method wuz wrong or unfruitful...I don't think LOz were previously aware of how much better it iz than their Louzy Terminal spitoutz,.. but NAAAH they are..That'z whut I meant by "on blast"..

Hopefully LOz will come up to snuff to match LP'z stats..
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Oct 21, 2022, 8:55 pm

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Oct 21, 2022
Someone did not understand the analysis to think it was putting Todd "on blast. " Quite the opposite actually.

What I have been trying to do is determine if another method of picking numbers will get better results than the lottery terminal quick pick most players use. I did a similar study previously on Lotto, Powerball, and MegaMillions in which I picked a static set of numbers and played the same numbers draw after draw and along side a different quick pick each drawing. On all three games, I actually got better results from the random quick picks than I did from playing the same numbers every draw.

On this analysis, I was trying to see if LP quick picks might get better results it seems like they just might so I may have to play them more often. My next project will be doing LP vs Terminal quick picks on Powerball, especially since right now, the jackpot is getting up there again.

I've heard all sorts of things said about different methods of getting numbers, so now I'm trying to see if there might be something to it.

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Quote: Originally posted by PrisonerSix on Oct 21, 2022
What I have been trying to do is determine if another method of picking numbers will get better results than the lottery terminal quick pick most players use. I did a similar study previously on Lotto, Powerball, and MegaMillions in which I picked a static set of numbers and played the same numbers draw after draw and along side a different quick pick each drawing. On all three games, I actually got better results from the random quick picks than I did from playing the same numbers every draw.

On this analysis, I was trying to see if LP quick picks might get better results it seems like they just might so I may have to play them more often. My next project will be doing LP vs Terminal quick picks on Powerball, especially since right now, the jackpot is getting up there again.

I've heard all sorts of things said about different methods of getting numbers, so now I'm trying to see if there might be something to it.

I understand. Since 2 numbers seemed to be the median hit from lp qps, I wanted to try using 3 lp qps and take 2 numbers from each qp. Tried it with VA cash 5 last night...3 qps and 2, 2 and 1 number taken from each qp in order for 1 play. I got 2 numbers and won my $1 back.
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Oct 22, 2022, 9:08 am

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Oct 22, 2022
I understand. Since 2 numbers seemed to be the median hit from lp qps, I wanted to try using 3 lp qps and take 2 numbers from each qp. Tried it with VA cash 5 last night...3 qps and 2, 2 and 1 number taken from each qp in order for 1 play. I got 2 numbers and won my $1 back.

Interesting idea. I'm going to try that with Lotto and see what happens.

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Oct 23, 2022, 1:18 am

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Oct 22, 2022
I understand. Since 2 numbers seemed to be the median hit from lp qps, I wanted to try using 3 lp qps and take 2 numbers from each qp. Tried it with VA cash 5 last night...3 qps and 2, 2 and 1 number taken from each qp in order for 1 play. I got 2 numbers and won my $1 back.

You would still need to know how to spot which QP # iz the most statistically viable amongst the ticketz...that'z wheaa.... You guessed it...

Probability Math comez inta play..!!

I surprized alotta local playaz by tellin'em which numberz on their QPz would show up.. and whutta know..

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Oct 23, 2022, 7:44 am

Quote: Originally posted by PrisonerSix on Oct 22, 2022
Interesting idea. I'm going to try that with Lotto and see what happens.

No hits for cash 5 which does correspond to your graph after I got 2 hits in the prior drawing.

2 hits for my pb ticket.
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Oct 23, 2022, 9:27 pm

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Oct 23, 2022
No hits for cash 5 which does correspond to your graph after I got 2 hits in the prior drawing.

2 hits for my pb ticket.

Keep trying and see what happens. I am to tracking Powerball numbers with terminal quick picks along side LP quick picks.

I also plan to do this same study later with MegaMillions. The results should be interesting.

On another note, there is another random number general site that uses atmospheric noise to pick numbers. They claim to be the most random in the world. They also are set up so numbers can be picked for various lottery drawings including powerball.

The site is http://www.random.org. I have tried a few picks generated there but didn't have much luck with them. Maybe they could be another study.

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