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Hi, I used many years ago a DOS lottery software that was searching through the past draws and was looking for draw ranges (in packages of 5,10,20 etc..) that where similar to the last N draws (or that was producing the best winning numbers sets...I don't remember exactly which of the methods was...) and was using them as starting point for extracting sets of winning numbers. Unfortunately I don't remember the application name, it was somehow similar as interface to Lottery director, Maxhit or Versabet but is none of them since I re-installed them in a XP virtual machine. I just remember that after analyzing the draw history was proposing to the users several draw-ranges intervals (like 200-210, or 340-350, etc...) to be used furthermore for selecting winning numbers. The concept of selecting the best number-producing past-ranges was quite interesting and I would like to re-test it but don't remember the app name. Can anyone help? Thanks a lot
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Quote: Originally posted by credo99 on Sep 8, 2021
Hi, I used many years ago a DOS lottery software that was searching through the past draws and was looking for draw ranges (in packages of 5,10,20 etc..) that where similar to the last N draws (or that was producing the best winning numbers sets...I don't remember exactly which of the methods was...) and was using them as starting point for extracting sets of winning numbers. Unfortunately I don't remember the application name, it was somehow similar as interface to Lottery director, Maxhit or Versabet but is none of them since I re-installed them in a XP virtual machine. I just remember that after analyzing the draw history was proposing to the users several draw-ranges intervals (like 200-210, or 340-350, etc...) to be used furthermore for selecting winning numbers. The concept of selecting the best number-producing past-ranges was quite interesting and I would like to re-test it but don't remember the app name. Can anyone help? Thanks a lot

It would be great to find a lot of the older programs.

I'd start with online repositories for DOS, DOS programs, and DOS games where people have saved the old stuff for the newer generation. Might search for "abandonware" another term used for programs no longer updated or maintained.

The problem I've run in to with finding pre-Window 3.1 stuff is it has to come to the site owners radar. And a lot of the older stuff disappeared completely with the advent of Windows and often buggy nature of the programming and the different versions of DOS.

Aside from spending hours searching repositories, and if no one has it, your best bet would be to program a replica.

Good Luck!

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Quote: Originally posted by credo99 on Sep 8, 2021
Hi, I used many years ago a DOS lottery software that was searching through the past draws and was looking for draw ranges (in packages of 5,10,20 etc..) that where similar to the last N draws (or that was producing the best winning numbers sets...I don't remember exactly which of the methods was...) and was using them as starting point for extracting sets of winning numbers. Unfortunately I don't remember the application name, it was somehow similar as interface to Lottery director, Maxhit or Versabet but is none of them since I re-installed them in a XP virtual machine. I just remember that after analyzing the draw history was proposing to the users several draw-ranges intervals (like 200-210, or 340-350, etc...) to be used furthermore for selecting winning numbers. The concept of selecting the best number-producing past-ranges was quite interesting and I would like to re-test it but don't remember the app name. Can anyone help? Thanks a lot

I made several spreadsheets for this. What ot actually does is make for a sort of frequency count where the most rwcient draw gravitates toward the top of the list. It tends to work best for sums and box frequency counts in pick 3
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Quote: Originally posted by credo99 on Sep 8, 2021
Hi, I used many years ago a DOS lottery software that was searching through the past draws and was looking for draw ranges (in packages of 5,10,20 etc..) that where similar to the last N draws (or that was producing the best winning numbers sets...I don't remember exactly which of the methods was...) and was using them as starting point for extracting sets of winning numbers. Unfortunately I don't remember the application name, it was somehow similar as interface to Lottery director, Maxhit or Versabet but is none of them since I re-installed them in a XP virtual machine. I just remember that after analyzing the draw history was proposing to the users several draw-ranges intervals (like 200-210, or 340-350, etc...) to be used furthermore for selecting winning numbers. The concept of selecting the best number-producing past-ranges was quite interesting and I would like to re-test it but don't remember the app name. Can anyone help? Thanks a lot

I don't know if it is still a rule here on LP you can't post a link if you are a new member, this includes replying to a post that has a link in it. So if this link survives the censor, remove it or don't reply, OK?

"Darrel Dolph Welcome to the Lottery Number Advisor website. To improve your chances of winning the lottery you'll need to play smart. Professor Dolph and his LONA software will show you how."

https://www.dailymotion.com/ProfessorDolph/

This is a remake of thirty year old dos software into whatever it is now. The theory was to scan a lottery's history for a past group of draws that has factors in common with the recent draws, and once found, see what came next back then in the hope it will happen again this time.

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Quote: Originally posted by BobP on Sep 9, 2021
I don't know if it is still a rule here on LP you can't post a link if you are a new member, this includes replying to a post that has a link in it. So if this link survives the censor, remove it or don't reply, OK?

"Darrel Dolph Welcome to the Lottery Number Advisor website. To improve your chances of winning the lottery you'll need to play smart. Professor Dolph and his LONA software will show you how."

https://www.dailymotion.com/ProfessorDolph/

This is a remake of thirty year old dos software into whatever it is now. The theory was to scan a lottery's history for a past group of draws that has factors in common with the recent draws, and once found, see what came next back then in the hope it will happen again this time.

BobP

"This is a remake of thirty year old dos software into whatever it is now. The theory was to scan a lottery's history for a past group of draws that has factors in common with the recent draws, and once found, see what came next back then in the hope it will happen again this time."

For software it is easier to scan the last part of drawings when doing heavy duty. Recent drawings are easier to scan. It is not excluded that a group of numbers will score big again, but will it do that?

I was looking for 10 numbers, in the recent drawings, that scored high.
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Sep 9, 2021, 9:25 am
The next drawing was:

WOENSDAG 8 SEPTEMBER
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- 44
- 33
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If, like in the other posts, you look for the last 3 drawings, and then look for a month having shown all those combinations of pick 3 from the last drawings, in what does this help you? - Add that you wouldn't want to find by month or section, but by any set range of time. Eventually they just queried by date, Y-m.
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I calculated for 10 numbers. A full wheel, make ten crosses on a system form (7-15 numbers at choice):

€(combin(10,6)*1.25)
=€262.5

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If I filter on scores 5 or 6, and look for the numbers scoring in the past:

Frequencies

N	N1	N2	N3	N4	N5	N6	T
22	0	0	3	0	1	0	4
5	2	1	0	0	0	0	3
25	0	0	0	2	1	0	3
28	0	0	0	0	2	1	3
10	0	1	1	0	0	0	2
1	1	0	0	0	0	0	1
2	1	0	0	0	0	0	1
7	0	1	0	0	0	0	1
8	0	1	0	0	0	0	1
12	0	0	0	1	0	0	1
24	0	0	0	1	0	0	1
27	0	0	0	0	0	1	1
33	0	0	0	0	0	1	1
43	0	0	0	0	0	1	1

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Sep 9, 2021, 10:12 am

Let's add the pattern stuff, mod 2 or %2 or E/O ...

MOD 2

DATE	N1	N2	N3	N4	N5	N6
2021-08-11	0	0	1	0	0	0
2021-08-13	1	1	1	0	1	0
2021-08-14	1	0	0	0	1	1
2021-08-18	1	0	1	1	1	0
2021-08-21	0	0	1	0	0	1
2021-08-25	1	1	0	0	0	0
2021-08-28	0	1	1	1	1	1
2021-09-01	0	0	0	1	0	1
2021-09-04	0	1	0	1	0	1
2021-09-08	1	0	0	0	0	0

The last drawing had 5 even numbers and that is not the center of your bell curve or your normal distribution (not curve).

If you could guess the straight o/e or 1/0-pattern, but nobody came up with such.
You then get answers like: "Play 3 even with 3 odd numbers!". I don't, I do like I want to. If I want to play 6 even numbers then I do that.

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Quote: Originally posted by Speler on Sep 9, 2021
If, like in the other posts, you look for the last 3 drawings, and then look for a month having shown all those combinations of pick 3 from the last drawings, in what does this help you? - Add that you wouldn't want to find by month or section, but by any set range of time. Eventually they just queried by date, Y-m.

There is a spreadsheet being sold on ebay that is similar to this idea. The idea behind this is the multiverse theory. If you have an unlimited universe (randomness) and a limited number of elements to create the universe with (the pick 3 numbers) you wind up with repeating sets. It just does not come out as cleanly as we would like. For example if you find a set of pick 3 numbers that match the current last 3 draws you might think to play the next numbers inline but it does not seem to work that way reliably so you wind up with a month or more of remaing draws that could be the next number drawn. Of course this is just one perspecrive of many. Hope it helps. It is interesting to note that if you look up pick 3 numbers by month and day you will find that they dont have any matches to the next draw most of the time. This can be a great eliminator of box number sets that wont come out in the next draw.
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Sep 9, 2021, 4:24 pm

Do you know the year when it was released? I think i have friend that might find your app.
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Quote: Originally posted by lottologix on Sep 9, 2021
There is a spreadsheet being sold on ebay that is similar to this idea. The idea behind this is the multiverse theory. If you have an unlimited universe (randomness) and a limited number of elements to create the universe with (the pick 3 numbers) you wind up with repeating sets. It just does not come out as cleanly as we would like. For example if you find a set of pick 3 numbers that match the current last 3 draws you might think to play the next numbers inline but it does not seem to work that way reliably so you wind up with a month or more of remaing draws that could be the next number drawn. Of course this is just one perspecrive of many. Hope it helps. It is interesting to note that if you look up pick 3 numbers by month and day you will find that they dont have any matches to the next draw most of the time. This can be a great eliminator of box number sets that wont come out in the next draw.

I used the numbers of a German casino. I ran the entire data, not just few numbers, every possible set of 6 and more numbers to find if there were returning groups. I found that it was good random, so what was returning wouldn't have paid. The next day the results changed, so you had nothing, it all looked very random and this often was said too.
I also did similar with pick 3, not finding anything that I wanted to really play.
I suppose that some hope to turn pick 3 into a deck of cards. I had remarks on my choices in posts years ago. These have this wrong idea that once combinations of your set were drawn, you could eliminate them. This is wrong. There is no reason why a combination would not be drawn again. I also think that those remarks are poison in lottery forums.
I also analyzed followers, digits followers in different ways. There was nothing useful. That doesn't mean that in some state the random events don't have a repeating abnormality, or something recognizable that you might want to play.
If you only look at numbers for lotto, not looking at combinations, then it is doable with Excel. What I did there, Excel cannot do.
With boxed combinations you have more luck, those are like wheels of 6 straight combinations. The straight combinations have a stronger leverage, better payout. The boxed doubles are more interesting.
I don't eliminate, digits can repeat, it can be a choice to not play those. I coded repeat charts for digits with more detail, and they were fine. I didn't find any rule, it always was guesswork.
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Sep 9, 2021, 5:31 pm

Agh!

Go back 8 draws, say the draw was 417.

Mirror 962.

Factor:)

3,3,222,2.

Totals

667777

667

666

677

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Sep 11, 2021, 5:58 am

Not so precise...I think I used it between 2005-2010..:((...I just remember a DOS-like interface similar to versabet but having at some point in the application a list of past-draws ranges with radio-button and the option to select some of them

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N	N1	N2	N3	N4	N5	N6	T
22	0	0	3	0	1	0	4
5	2	1	0	0	0	0	3
25	0	0	0	2	1	0	3
28	0	0	0	0	2	1	3
10	0	1	1	0	0	0	2
1	1	0	0	0	0	0	1
2	1	0	0	0	0	0	1
7	0	1	0	0	0	0	1
8	0	1	0	0	0	0	1
12	0	0	0	1	0	0	1
24	0	0	0	1	0	0	1
27	0	0	0	0	0	1	1
33	0	0	0	0	0	1	1
43	0	0	0	0	0	1	1

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22	0	0	3	0	1	0	4
5	2	1	0	0	0	0	3
25	0	0	0	2	1	0	3
28	0	0	0	0	2	1	3
10	0	1	1	0	0	0	2
1	1	0	0	0	0	0	1
2	1	0	0	0	0	0	1
7	0	1	0	0	0	0	1
8	0	1	0	0	0	0	1
12	0	0	0	1	0	0	1
24	0	0	0	1	0	0	1
27	0	0	0	0	0	1	1
33	0	0	0	0	0	1	1
43	0	0	0	0	0	1	1

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22	0	0	3	0	1	0	4
5	2	1	0	0	0	0	3
25	0	0	0	2	1	0	3
28	0	0	0	0	2	1	3
10	0	1	1	0	0	0	2
1	1	0	0	0	0	0	1
2	1	0	0	0	0	0	1
7	0	1	0	0	0	0	1
8	0	1	0	0	0	0	1
12	0	0	0	1	0	0	1
24	0	0	0	1	0	0	1
27	0	0	0	0	0	1	1
33	0	0	0	0	0	1	1
43	0	0	0	0	0	1	1