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Hey All,
Straight to point. I haven't came up with any "magical systems' that win ever time, as many here claim. However, with few simple formulas and basic statistics, i came with some interesting oddity.
There are 12,103,014 < Possibilities of choosing 5 from 70.
I narrowed it down to 742,622 per drawing, which means we can throw away 93.83% of possibilities leaving us with 6.17%. I have yet to look at sums etc that can narrow it down. One question i have is:
1) How does group playing plays out legally? What i'm asking is that if someone from the group ( 1-20 people, no more than that) play numbers from my list and it wins, that he is bonded to share it with all 1-20 people? I know that people have pools at work etc, but how it would work online?
If any questions, feel free to let me know.
Thanks
P.S. I'm interested only in 5:0 winning, as that's guaranteed win, while Jackpot varies. However, it is obvious if someone hits jackpot, he needs to share as well:)
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Quote: Originally posted by LotteryConnect on Aug 1, 2020
Hmm, not sure i understand you, but if I played $50 worth of winning 5:0, then it will be 50 x 250,000 ..it is just matter of perspective:)
PS. Any Mega Million pickers here?
I am saying it’s better to play and hit pick 4 game str than to try and hit 2nd prize of MM which is way harder and might be even not possible to hit in 10-20 years
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Quote: Originally posted by LotteryConnect on Aug 1, 2020
Update:
FINAL # of combinations to choose from is 677,011. From this set of combinations, there should be a winner by the end of the year in Mega million.
Below is how it represents itself with sums.
Anyone here good with sums that would like to cooperate?
Thanks
20
1
23
1
25
2
26
1
27
1
28
1
29
1
30
4
31
3
32
5
33
5
34
5
35
8
36
8
37
10
38
9
39
13
40
19
41
14
42
23
43
21
44
23
45
35
46
26
47
42
48
31
49
40
50
44
51
47
52
56
53
66
54
65
55
71
56
67
57
81
58
85
59
112
60
91
61
114
62
119
63
126
64
152
65
164
66
175
67
158
68
167
69
195
70
221
71
245
72
211
73
267
74
288
75
251
76
340
77
328
78
377
79
400
80
403
81
378
82
466
83
481
84
496
85
470
86
526
87
577
88
610
89
623
90
661
91
699
92
699
93
801
94
752
95
822
96
885
97
903
98
995
99
1010
100
1131
101
1083
102
1109
103
1149
104
1230
105
1291
106
1348
107
1421
108
1484
109
1432
110
1572
111
1540
112
1645
113
1734
114
1832
115
1820
116
1836
117
2029
118
2038
119
2054
120
2208
121
2330
122
2315
123
2370
124
2450
125
2531
126
2596
127
2726
128
2722
129
2943
130
2892
131
2911
132
3063
133
3119
134
3236
135
3376
136
3452
137
3387
138
3649
139
3556
140
3706
141
3702
142
3863
143
3879
144
4102
145
4085
146
4158
147
4143
148
4293
149
4405
150
4487
151
4358
152
4655
153
4770
154
4846
155
4728
156
4901
157
4911
158
4934
159
5181
160
5143
161
5204
162
5300
163
5284
164
5518
165
5481
166
5399
167
5690
168
5562
169
5651
170
5620
171
5854
172
5843
173
5836
174
5862
175
5950
176
5922
177
5926
178
6040
179
5984
180
6007
181
5876
182
6041
183
6052
184
6001
185
5781
186
6034
187
6052
188
6029
189
5995
190
6168
191
6033
192
6121
193
5965
194
5796
195
5919
196
5942
197
5804
198
5888
199
5829
200
5743
201
5709
202
5666
203
5659
204
5593
205
5437
206
5594
207
5449
208
5265
209
5299
210
5255
211
5303
212
5186
213
5033
214
5017
215
4892
216
4901
217
4830
218
4779
219
4691
220
4574
221
4602
222
4387
223
4313
224
4281
225
4142
226
4093
227
3885
228
3799
229
3670
230
3761
231
3685
232
3563
233
3468
234
3303
235
3185
236
3241
237
3055
238
3020
239
3044
240
2928
241
2733
242
2704
243
2588
244
2562
245
2433
246
2411
247
2307
248
2264
249
2143
250
2072
251
2001
252
1991
253
1852
254
1827
255
1626
256
1697
257
1542
258
1618
259
1470
260
1387
261
1368
262
1358
263
1250
264
1225
265
1134
266
1108
267
990
268
1000
269
940
270
941
271
869
272
791
273
748
274
754
275
662
276
682
277
585
278
525
279
546
280
497
281
483
282
439
283
432
284
415
285
362
286
369
287
343
288
313
289
288
290
285
291
266
292
225
293
223
294
208
295
209
296
153
297
156
298
165
299
125
300
115
301
115
302
98
303
97
304
99
305
84
306
62
307
63
308
70
309
55
310
43
311
39
312
34
313
39
314
27
315
23
316
24
317
23
318
27
319
20
320
17
321
15
322
14
323
6
324
2
325
7
326
9
327
5
328
3
329
2
330
2
331
1
I've got a program that will essentially do all that and even under 1000-1 odds and lower if the correct filters are hit. You do not necessarily have a winner. I would not get into a pool of 20 people with almost 700,000 combinations. How many tickets is someone going to buy at at a time 50? That's a $100. Not worth it. Chances of someone in the group hitting is almost nil. 5/39 in NY odds are over 500,00-1 You're better off with quick picks.
It's always possible that I'm wrong~
But that's never at the top of my list of possibilities.
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Hi,
Can you clarify what you mean by your program going under 1000-1 odds? 12Million / 1000 = 120K vs 700k?
5/39 NY is par mutual, and that's not something I'm interested in.
The 700K is from pure randomness, so from here we start filtering.
Statistically, if you choose any group of 700K combinations ( whether you go by sums, or whatever 'system' you have) then chances are that you should be right once every 15 drawings ( 700*15 = roughly 12Million).
Since new version of MM 5/70 from October 28, 2017, there were 288 drawings, so we should except roughly 19 winners by now. (288/15). Yet it has not been hit even once, while other groups of random 700K have been hit many times.
The goal is to have a small group, that is willing to play numbers from that 700K range. Whatever system of narrowing down people choose from here, is up to them.
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Quote: Originally posted by LotteryConnect on Aug 4, 2020
Prediction:
Only 2 numbers from 5 will be from the set below. It might look trivial, but no point picking 3 numbers from that set.
As for Powerball, it will be below 14.
1
5
6
8
9
10
14
16
20
23
25
26
29
34
37
40
41
43
44
46
48
52
53
55
56
58
59
62
64
How are you coming up with these 29 numbers and why would you say that only 2 of them need looking at?
Just curious.
You can't steal second and keep your foot on FIRST!!!
“Strength does not come from winning. Your struggles develop your strengths.
When you go through hardships and decide not to surrender, that is strength”.
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Quote: Originally posted by LotteryConnect on Jul 31, 2020
Hey All,
Straight to point. I haven't came up with any "magical systems' that win ever time, as many here claim. However, with few simple formulas and basic statistics, i came with some interesting oddity.
There are 12,103,014 < Possibilities of choosing 5 from 70.
I narrowed it down to 742,622 per drawing, which means we can throw away 93.83% of possibilities leaving us with 6.17%. I have yet to look at sums etc that can narrow it down. One question i have is:
1) How does group playing plays out legally? What i'm asking is that if someone from the group ( 1-20 people, no more than that) play numbers from my list and it wins, that he is bonded to share it with all 1-20 people? I know that people have pools at work etc, but how it would work online?
If any questions, feel free to let me know.
Thanks
P.S. I'm interested only in 5:0 winning, as that's guaranteed win, while Jackpot varies. However, it is obvious if someone hits jackpot, he needs to share as well:)
There are 12,103,014 < Possibilities of choosing 5 from 70.
I narrowed it down to 742,622 per drawing, which means we can throw away 93.83% of possibilities leaving us with 6.17%.
The odds of hitting a jackpot still remains 1 in 12103014 . You can slice it
anyway you want, the odds remains the same. I don't see the relevance of
the 288 draws so far if draws are distinct and exclusive
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Well, there isn't "system" for picking correct 5 + 1 numbers. The point is to narrow it at reasonable amount, where there is possibility. Yes, drawings are distinct and exclusive, yet randomness should prevail.
Anyway, i'm not here to argue. Doesn't hurt to have a topic and make predictions right?
P.S. I'm still looking for anyone that analyzes solely Mega Million, and stays away from that morning/midday/evening lotto 2/3/4/5 crap :)
P.S#2 - Not that i'm against lotto, but i have different outlook at lottery. It is meant to be fun, with some "addiction of analyzing" and potentially some chances of winning. That's why i go only for Mega Million. From many threads here, i can see that people treat lottery 2/3/4/5 etc picks and its analysis of systems as daily job or "extra income".
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Quote: Originally posted by LotteryConnect on Aug 4, 2020
Well, there isn't "system" for picking correct 5 + 1 numbers. The point is to narrow it at reasonable amount, where there is possibility. Yes, drawings are distinct and exclusive, yet randomness should prevail.
Anyway, i'm not here to argue. Doesn't hurt to have a topic and make predictions right?
P.S. I'm still looking for anyone that analyzes solely Mega Million, and stays away from that morning/midday/evening lotto 2/3/4/5 crap :)
P.S#2 - Not that i'm against lotto, but i have different outlook at lottery. It is meant to be fun, with some "addiction of analyzing" and potentially some chances of winning. That's why i go only for Mega Million. From many threads here, i can see that people treat lottery 2/3/4/5 etc picks and its analysis of systems as daily job or "extra income".
P.S. I'm still looking for anyone that analyzes solely Mega Million, and stays with that morning/midday/evening lotto 2/3/4/5 crap :)
I don't think you're ready for a dialogue, LP forum is all about discussion and solutions, if asking questions or stating the premise of a game rattles you , then is very unfortunate. Funny, you said digit games 2,3,4,5 crap
, remember we have a lot of programmers on this platform (selfless and humble I should say) who do write scripts for all typesof games.
If you want to listen to yourself, trust me, you 'll be hitting the reply button yourself.
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Quote: Originally posted by adobea78 on Aug 4, 2020
P.S. I'm still looking for anyone that analyzes solely Mega Million, and stays with that morning/midday/evening lotto 2/3/4/5 crap :)
I don't think you're ready for a dialogue, LP forum is all about discussion and solutions, if asking questions or stating the premise of a game rattles you , then is very unfortunate. Funny, you said digit games 2,3,4,5 crap
, remember we have a lot of programmers on this platform (selfless and humble I should say) who do write scripts for all typesof games.
If you want to listen to yourself, trust me, you 'll be hitting the reply button yourself.
Good Luck
It looks like we will not get along well on this forum. Not sure what you have against me but:
1) I came to LP as i'm interested in numbers and lottery, as i think 90% of people here.
2) In the first post, i wrote that i'm not talking about any "systems' as such do not exist.
3) In previous post, i asked if anyone is analyzing solely Mega Million, so that we can possibly chat and exchange ideas? Preferably, someone that understands that there are 1 to 12+ million combinations fo 5 from 70 in Mega Million. Also, someone that realizes that lottery is like roulette, where each spin/draw is independent, so previous 288 spins/drawings have nothing to do with next one. However, he/she is willing to "crunch the numbers" for fun twice a week, with obvious potential win.
4) Original post was about how it plays out legally, if a group of 20 people exist. I explained it, that i'm not looking for 20 people to play all 700K possibilities. If you or anyone reading it did, then my apology, but you missed the point.
5) This i lottery forum, so i think it is normal to ask if someone plays/analyzes only Mega Million. Explanation of why i'm not interested in Lotto or anything else, was answered in my previous post, and I preferred to clear it up beforehand. There was no intention of attacking anyone.
6) I don't think it is bad if i make my predictions in my own thread, rather than create 10-20 threads right?