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My inner voice said I should mark this post as read and move on.
But, I see an opportunity to make some points.
It never ceases to amaze me how many data bases mathematicians can see in any game history file of any length.
Here is another example of wasted time and energy.
As has been pointed out, the system fails to answer the most important question in lottery play - What's Next?
It also fails to reveal the mathematical solution that has been hiding for 200 plus years.
Regarding Gail Howard.
If 2+2=4 helped her win jackpots during her heyday, why isn't 2+2=4 helping GH users win jackpots today??
There are multiple reasons.
Lotteries are much smarter today. Being pushed by politicians to raise more cash, more efficient lottery ball machines are in use, as are the random number generators in the thousands of lottery terminals nationwide.
It seems lottery folks are doing everything they can to make life difficult for the 'self pick' players who threaten their bottom lines.
In my view, the adoption of 'PRETESTS' has just about killed off the hundreds of lottery systems that were taking a toll on lottery profits.
Any Google search will show that the creators of the various systems have given up and not updating their methods to fit current technology.
Many computer software systems are going bust due to lack of player interest.
Face it - most average lottery players can't afford to spend $50 for a chance to win $40.
Unfortunately, mathematicians have yet to come up with a solution that doesn't require many hours updating data bases they 'think' can produce winning numbers on somewhat consistent basis.
What you are offering, Mr Tinkermen, is another math-based pile of crap that will ultimately fail, in my opinion of course.
Is a 'non-math' based strategy or system that provides reliable, consistent, mostly correct answers to all the What' Next? questions possible??
Yes, there is. I have one.
It's called Bob's Lottery Entertainment System.
Unfortunately, I have cancer that is limiting my ability to communicate.
Besides, I have yet to meet anyone I feel I could trust to faithfully document my data base files.
Winning a lottery prize is difficult, to say the least, but I've demonstrated it can be done.
I've won $8,000 in Texas Daily 4 in the past year or so. This will buy many future tickets.
My game playing strategy is 3 combinations, betting both ways, $6 per day investment, if I have the strength to do the analysis and find the best choices.
Unfortunately, I have no family members who cares about detailed lottery analysis, and managing a lottery system.
So, when I go to the next place, all my work will 'rest in peace' along with this old body.
Good luck!! -
bobby, where would we be if 50 years ago we (the USA), just gave up in our quest to put a man on the moon, when so many said it was a waste of time and money?
It seems that every time a mathematical approach is being discussed here, you (and others) chime in with same, my way is right, your way is crap. There are some folks here, including myself, that just enjoy the journey. You call it a waste of time and nothing but compiled crap. I call it brain exercise, and enjoyment. Think of it as a hobby. It is NOT a waste of time for me, even if the chances of me ever finding a "solution", in your eyes, is impossible. You have no idea what my goal(s) might be in regards to playing the lottery. Sure a jackpot would be great, but that is not the only end to my means.
So, while I'm glad you may have a winning method for your particular lottery play, why not just accept the fact that your way may NOT be the only way. I don't see anybody bashing you or your method of lottery play, even though it's only hearsay. You are more than welcome to start a new thread and tell us all about your winnng method, although I doubt that will happen since you feel you cant trust us.
I'm not denying the fact that you may have more wins than losses, nor am I asking you for proof of your winnings. What I am asking if that you accept those of us on OUR mathematical and or statistical journey, even if in your eyes it's complete crap and a waste of time. It's our time and we'll spend it as we see fit. Next time, maybe listen to your inner voice, unless of course you have something positive (read that as non bashing) to add to the discussion.
I'm sorry to hear about your health and for the lack of interest by family members in regards to your lottery findings.Wishing you nothing but the best!
What goes around comes around.
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"My inner voice said I should mark this post as read and move on."
Your inner voice was right.This is the Mathematics Forum. Its a place to discuss the connection between math and lottery. Demonizing math in a math forum doesn't make much sense. And since we're talking about jackpot games you can't claim your Daily 4/Pick 4 system is comparable, better, or near the same level.
Fortunately, there are ways to determine certain parameters about the next set drawn with the derived data. The question raised was how this particular system effected that avenue.
Bobby, you have a whole forum to post your ideas, your system, your knowledge. Why come into a thread on jackpot games and derail/hijack the discussion with a non-math Pick 4 system, which you aren't going to post because you can't trust anyone?
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I'm probably here unless I'm not.
Dreaming would be a perfectly useless function if it's only purpose was to entertain. -
Quote: Originally posted by bobby623 on May 12, 2019
My inner voice said I should mark this post as read and move on.
But, I see an opportunity to make some points.
It never ceases to amaze me how many data bases mathematicians can see in any game history file of any length.
Here is another example of wasted time and energy.
As has been pointed out, the system fails to answer the most important question in lottery play - What's Next?
It also fails to reveal the mathematical solution that has been hiding for 200 plus years.
Regarding Gail Howard.
If 2+2=4 helped her win jackpots during her heyday, why isn't 2+2=4 helping GH users win jackpots today??
There are multiple reasons.
Lotteries are much smarter today. Being pushed by politicians to raise more cash, more efficient lottery ball machines are in use, as are the random number generators in the thousands of lottery terminals nationwide.
It seems lottery folks are doing everything they can to make life difficult for the 'self pick' players who threaten their bottom lines.
In my view, the adoption of 'PRETESTS' has just about killed off the hundreds of lottery systems that were taking a toll on lottery profits.
Any Google search will show that the creators of the various systems have given up and not updating their methods to fit current technology.
Many computer software systems are going bust due to lack of player interest.
Face it - most average lottery players can't afford to spend $50 for a chance to win $40.
Unfortunately, mathematicians have yet to come up with a solution that doesn't require many hours updating data bases they 'think' can produce winning numbers on somewhat consistent basis.
What you are offering, Mr Tinkermen, is another math-based pile of crap that will ultimately fail, in my opinion of course.
Is a 'non-math' based strategy or system that provides reliable, consistent, mostly correct answers to all the What' Next? questions possible??
Yes, there is. I have one.
It's called Bob's Lottery Entertainment System.
Unfortunately, I have cancer that is limiting my ability to communicate.
Besides, I have yet to meet anyone I feel I could trust to faithfully document my data base files.
Winning a lottery prize is difficult, to say the least, but I've demonstrated it can be done.
I've won $8,000 in Texas Daily 4 in the past year or so. This will buy many future tickets.
My game playing strategy is 3 combinations, betting both ways, $6 per day investment, if I have the strength to do the analysis and find the best choices.
Unfortunately, I have no family members who cares about detailed lottery analysis, and managing a lottery system.
So, when I go to the next place, all my work will 'rest in peace' along with this old body.
Good luck!!My apology Bobby,
I was under the incorrect assumption, when I first entered this Forum based on my past history concerning lotto analysis and the people that were in my life at the time that I learned about it, that Lotto Probability Draw Pattern Mathematics was even known - I was told otherwise at the time.
And you're very correct, the Tinkermen Lotto Report I've created doesn't offer one single 'Word' as to what's next or 'How to' - I just separate all the past draws into there particular groups and show the mathematics and statistics for each Pattern based on the past draws. (Absolutely nothing new to this community)
I didn't enter this Forum to bring everyone the magic answer, I actually came looking and asking this Forum and this community for help with a 'General Explanation' as to how to understand and explain to the rest of the world (Who has absolutely no idea that Lotto Probability Draw Pattern Mathematics) or (Past Draws can be separated into groups like that) even exist.
Sorry to hear about your health and I wish you the best, keep winning...
"Lotteries are made up of independent random draws, which are mathematically deterministic and that lead to probable outcomes over the course of time, due to the law of large numbers"
- John Francis/Edvin Hitlner
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Sorry if I hurt your feelings, your being any mathematician who believes there is a mathematical solution to lottery play.
By the way - It's always been my understanding that system builders do so with the intent of WINNING, rather than a mental exercise for personal enjoyment.
I can't believe anyone would spend hours building data bases just for fun.
I suspected the come back to my comments would be negative, but LP is an 'opinion' forum.
I've expressed mine, although my Mama would want to wash my mouth with soap out for using crap. Perhaps I should have been more civil.
As for my methods, I only play Daily 4 and Cash 5.
I lost my hope of winning a big jackpot a long time ago.
I also suspected I'd run into 'put up or shut up' attitudes.
I'm still alive, so, there might still be an Ebook down the road.
Thanks for your replies, gentlemen. -
Quote: Originally posted by bobby623 on May 12, 2019
My inner voice said I should mark this post as read and move on.
But, I see an opportunity to make some points.
It never ceases to amaze me how many data bases mathematicians can see in any game history file of any length.
Here is another example of wasted time and energy.
As has been pointed out, the system fails to answer the most important question in lottery play - What's Next?
It also fails to reveal the mathematical solution that has been hiding for 200 plus years.
Regarding Gail Howard.
If 2+2=4 helped her win jackpots during her heyday, why isn't 2+2=4 helping GH users win jackpots today??
There are multiple reasons.
Lotteries are much smarter today. Being pushed by politicians to raise more cash, more efficient lottery ball machines are in use, as are the random number generators in the thousands of lottery terminals nationwide.
It seems lottery folks are doing everything they can to make life difficult for the 'self pick' players who threaten their bottom lines.
In my view, the adoption of 'PRETESTS' has just about killed off the hundreds of lottery systems that were taking a toll on lottery profits.
Any Google search will show that the creators of the various systems have given up and not updating their methods to fit current technology.
Many computer software systems are going bust due to lack of player interest.
Face it - most average lottery players can't afford to spend $50 for a chance to win $40.
Unfortunately, mathematicians have yet to come up with a solution that doesn't require many hours updating data bases they 'think' can produce winning numbers on somewhat consistent basis.
What you are offering, Mr Tinkermen, is another math-based pile of crap that will ultimately fail, in my opinion of course.
Is a 'non-math' based strategy or system that provides reliable, consistent, mostly correct answers to all the What' Next? questions possible??
Yes, there is. I have one.
It's called Bob's Lottery Entertainment System.
Unfortunately, I have cancer that is limiting my ability to communicate.
Besides, I have yet to meet anyone I feel I could trust to faithfully document my data base files.
Winning a lottery prize is difficult, to say the least, but I've demonstrated it can be done.
I've won $8,000 in Texas Daily 4 in the past year or so. This will buy many future tickets.
My game playing strategy is 3 combinations, betting both ways, $6 per day investment, if I have the strength to do the analysis and find the best choices.
Unfortunately, I have no family members who cares about detailed lottery analysis, and managing a lottery system.
So, when I go to the next place, all my work will 'rest in peace' along with this old body.
Good luck!!Bobby, Sorry to hear you are Not Well and apparently Alone with respect to your Lottery Ideas. I hope that you have Family that loves you as that is all that matters.
I know you tried to present your ideas here before. I / We Tried to do an Excel File with your ideas but you bailed after a few questions. I did not get the impression that it was a lack of trust; but rather an inability to see that your system could be reduced to Math and expressed in a spreadsheet.
It is a shame that you have such a restricted mindset in your Lottery Pursuit that you feel like you have to dump it on anyone who Endeavors to apply Mathematics and Data Analysis to the Games. It is also a Crock (my opinion) that you can't see that you are using math in your own process. Using Letters instead of Numbers is just another set of numbers on a different Base.
You never know, someone (maybe me) will one day take you posted ideas and create a Worksheet that replaces your pen and paper. Oh, all of my efforts with big data confirm that there is no guaranteed method of winning. After all of the Work, it still comes down to a guess. We guess Numbers and Codes, You do the Same but you exclude Numbers. We Both Guess.
Everyone here has a right to share their ideas and personal discoveries, including you. I'm guessing that most do not appreciate being told that their stuff is Crap and Their time is Wasted.
Maybe you should lighten up a little bit. You might find that there are a few folks here that can be trusted and you could leave something positive when your time comes.
Tinkerman,
As I said before, there is a Void between historical data and Next in the Lottery. As one who spends A LOT of time generating Data, I know it always comes back to a guess. I and most, I think, are just trying to guess from a different perspective. Your "Decades" Data is something that many of us have looked at, coded, counted, and coded again. I am a believer in Code Guessing. I continually try new codes and combinations of codes to guess from. Your Report (very well presented) is another list of codes that define groups of numbers but there is a lot of work and more reductions necessary to get the inventory down.
I am puzzled by you wanting to Educate people who are not Lottery Folks about cataloging methods for the game history. The Vast majority (including all of my friends) only buy a ticket when the Jackpot gets large enough to draw media attention. Other than that they are more anti than Our Friend Bob.
You found the Refuge, Welcome and don't give up
Oh, and don't forget The Lottery watches this and is afraid of what we might come up with. I find it hard to believe that the Lottery Complex does not have Everything Ever Posted and all of the Downloads offered here.
If you Ever want to go PM with this, I would be glad to see what I can help you with and learn in the process.
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Quote: Originally posted by bobby623 on May 12, 2019
Sorry if I hurt your feelings, your being any mathematician who believes there is a mathematical solution to lottery play.
By the way - It's always been my understanding that system builders do so with the intent of WINNING, rather than a mental exercise for personal enjoyment.
I can't believe anyone would spend hours building data bases just for fun.
I suspected the come back to my comments would be negative, but LP is an 'opinion' forum.
I've expressed mine, although my Mama would want to wash my mouth with soap out for using crap. Perhaps I should have been more civil.
As for my methods, I only play Daily 4 and Cash 5.
I lost my hope of winning a big jackpot a long time ago.
I also suspected I'd run into 'put up or shut up' attitudes.
I'm still alive, so, there might still be an Ebook down the road.
Thanks for your replies, gentlemen.bobby, come on now, my feelings are not hurt. At 64 years of age, it takes a lot more than words entered from a keyboard to hurt my feelings.
You can't believe I would do what I do just for fun? Well you don't know me, so no way for you to believe otherwise. I'm not here to convince you of anything. Hobbies are my way of relaxing, exercising or just plain having fun. I like to play golf for fun and physical exercise (I walk 18 holes), and I write computer code for brain exercise and relaxation. You are thinking I am in this for the money, and you are wrong. If the money does happen to come my way, then great...if not, I feel I've lost nothing. I spend my time doing what I enjoy, and to me that is a WIN!
There is no put up or shut up attitude here. Just put up some information that pertains to the topic and it's all good. Come in and bash lottery math as you usually do, then IMO, you are just trolling. I'm not saying we are looking for only positive opinions or comments, but rather than bash the math, put up evidence that either supports your view, or negates the math presented here.
We all know your point of view on math as it applies to the lottery, so no need to refresh our memory. We respect your point of view as it applies your lottery play. We don't enter your threads bashing your work, so how about a little respect from you towards others and their point of view when it comes to playing the lottery their way.
We all have our own beliefs, none are wrong, and all are right.... for the beholder.
What goes around comes around.
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Quote: Originally posted by bobby623 on May 12, 2019
My inner voice said I should mark this post as read and move on.
But, I see an opportunity to make some points.
It never ceases to amaze me how many data bases mathematicians can see in any game history file of any length.
Here is another example of wasted time and energy.
As has been pointed out, the system fails to answer the most important question in lottery play - What's Next?
It also fails to reveal the mathematical solution that has been hiding for 200 plus years.
Regarding Gail Howard.
If 2+2=4 helped her win jackpots during her heyday, why isn't 2+2=4 helping GH users win jackpots today??
There are multiple reasons.
Lotteries are much smarter today. Being pushed by politicians to raise more cash, more efficient lottery ball machines are in use, as are the random number generators in the thousands of lottery terminals nationwide.
It seems lottery folks are doing everything they can to make life difficult for the 'self pick' players who threaten their bottom lines.
In my view, the adoption of 'PRETESTS' has just about killed off the hundreds of lottery systems that were taking a toll on lottery profits.
Any Google search will show that the creators of the various systems have given up and not updating their methods to fit current technology.
Many computer software systems are going bust due to lack of player interest.
Face it - most average lottery players can't afford to spend $50 for a chance to win $40.
Unfortunately, mathematicians have yet to come up with a solution that doesn't require many hours updating data bases they 'think' can produce winning numbers on somewhat consistent basis.
What you are offering, Mr Tinkermen, is another math-based pile of crap that will ultimately fail, in my opinion of course.
Is a 'non-math' based strategy or system that provides reliable, consistent, mostly correct answers to all the What' Next? questions possible??
Yes, there is. I have one.
It's called Bob's Lottery Entertainment System.
Unfortunately, I have cancer that is limiting my ability to communicate.
Besides, I have yet to meet anyone I feel I could trust to faithfully document my data base files.
Winning a lottery prize is difficult, to say the least, but I've demonstrated it can be done.
I've won $8,000 in Texas Daily 4 in the past year or so. This will buy many future tickets.
My game playing strategy is 3 combinations, betting both ways, $6 per day investment, if I have the strength to do the analysis and find the best choices.
Unfortunately, I have no family members who cares about detailed lottery analysis, and managing a lottery system.
So, when I go to the next place, all my work will 'rest in peace' along with this old body.
Good luck!!But bobby, this discussion is not about pick-3 and pick-4 games where the predicting is much different; it more about exploring ways to catch $100,000 plus jackpots.
"Lotteries are much smarter today. Being pushed by politicians to raise more cash, more efficient lottery ball machines are in use"
Efficiency of ball machines doesn't change the fact a set of ten numbered balls are still put into three or four containers each. The live ball methods for 5/39 and 6/49 games vary from state to state, but there are 39 or 49 numbered balls in those containers. Whatever method or system pick-5, pick-6, or with a bonus number is used still has the same objective as buying QPs.
You're communication is fine and sorry to hear about your illness.
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Been waiting 6 years for that E-book. Keep looking for the title, "The A D R - *, Totally Non-Mathematical, Way to Win the Lottery that Goes with ME When I'm Gone."
So far nothing popping up.
Unfortunate you don't want to share your ideas. It's unfortunate no one in your life is interested in your system. It's unfortunate you won't post your ideas in an appropriate place. And I guess its unfortunate that no one is begging for this wonderful, marvelous, non-math way to win the lottery.
And so.......the little boy cried, "Wolf!"
But no one came.G
I'm probably here unless I'm not.
Dreaming would be a perfectly useless function if it's only purpose was to entertain. -
Quote: Originally posted by AllenB on May 12, 2019
Bobby, Sorry to hear you are Not Well and apparently Alone with respect to your Lottery Ideas. I hope that you have Family that loves you as that is all that matters.
I know you tried to present your ideas here before. I / We Tried to do an Excel File with your ideas but you bailed after a few questions. I did not get the impression that it was a lack of trust; but rather an inability to see that your system could be reduced to Math and expressed in a spreadsheet.
It is a shame that you have such a restricted mindset in your Lottery Pursuit that you feel like you have to dump it on anyone who Endeavors to apply Mathematics and Data Analysis to the Games. It is also a Crock (my opinion) that you can't see that you are using math in your own process. Using Letters instead of Numbers is just another set of numbers on a different Base.
You never know, someone (maybe me) will one day take you posted ideas and create a Worksheet that replaces your pen and paper. Oh, all of my efforts with big data confirm that there is no guaranteed method of winning. After all of the Work, it still comes down to a guess. We guess Numbers and Codes, You do the Same but you exclude Numbers. We Both Guess.
Everyone here has a right to share their ideas and personal discoveries, including you. I'm guessing that most do not appreciate being told that their stuff is Crap and Their time is Wasted.
Maybe you should lighten up a little bit. You might find that there are a few folks here that can be trusted and you could leave something positive when your time comes.
Tinkerman,
As I said before, there is a Void between historical data and Next in the Lottery. As one who spends A LOT of time generating Data, I know it always comes back to a guess. I and most, I think, are just trying to guess from a different perspective. Your "Decades" Data is something that many of us have looked at, coded, counted, and coded again. I am a believer in Code Guessing. I continually try new codes and combinations of codes to guess from. Your Report (very well presented) is another list of codes that define groups of numbers but there is a lot of work and more reductions necessary to get the inventory down.
I am puzzled by you wanting to Educate people who are not Lottery Folks about cataloging methods for the game history. The Vast majority (including all of my friends) only buy a ticket when the Jackpot gets large enough to draw media attention. Other than that they are more anti than Our Friend Bob.
You found the Refuge, Welcome and don't give up
Oh, and don't forget The Lottery watches this and is afraid of what we might come up with. I find it hard to believe that the Lottery Complex does not have Everything Ever Posted and all of the Downloads offered here.
If you Ever want to go PM with this, I would be glad to see what I can help you with and learn in the process.
I believe everyone here (Collectively) reading this thread post, has the ability to m
Great Question Allen "I am puzzled by you wanting to Educate people who are not Lottery Folks about cataloging methods for the game history"
"Lotteries are made up of independent random draws, which are mathematically deterministic and that lead to probable outcomes over the course of time, due to the law of large numbers"
- John Francis/Edvin Hitlner
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We are assuming that all math geeks already have all the same info we have, but such may not be the case. New players who are interested in the math contained inside the lottery would most likely benefit from your current and any future findings Tinkermen. Sure the web has plenty of info already, but if you compile and update the info as necessary, then that may be the key to your success for informing the public.
Wikipedia is as good a place as any for getting the word out. That word by the way is NOT necessarily how math can help you win the lottery, but more about how math can help you make better choices when choosing numbers to play, or to just get a better understanding how random works in the lottery. Who knows, the info may even open eyes of a few who are not math oriented.
What goes around comes around.
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Quote: Originally posted by Tinkermen on May 12, 2019
I believe everyone here (Collectively) reading this thread post, has the ability to m
Great Question Allen "I am puzzled by you wanting to Educate people who are not Lottery Folks about cataloging methods for the game history"
I have to answer this tomorrow Allen, from my computer, trying to do it from my cell phone at work tonight is not working lol
I do have a great answer by the way, All of us combined I believe can help more people win than ever before.
Until tomorrow though...
"Lotteries are made up of independent random draws, which are mathematically deterministic and that lead to probable outcomes over the course of time, due to the law of large numbers"
- John Francis/Edvin Hitlner
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hello,BOBBY623, we can work with both conditions, predict numbers, or predict empty blocks to exclude, which results in 20% of the numbers to play, exclude small blocks in each line of 10 numbers to be good. delete 2 to 2 with a reference the last draw.
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If anyone is interested, a search of my posts will reveal that I have presented my non-math ideas many times.
The only exception is the final stage where digits ready for play are chosen.
There's just too much information to input.
However, any programmer can figure it out.
I don't believe Excel is intended for lotteries.
The only way to learn is via paper and pencil.
I can't deny that I'm frustrated by a continual barrage of math-based systems that don't work, in my opinion.
Nothing personal intended.
Tinkerman, I hope you succeed where thousands have failed.
If a program can't provide realistic, single answers to the What's Next? question, then what's the point?
Have a good day! -
Quote: Originally posted by AllenB on May 12, 2019
Bobby, Sorry to hear you are Not Well and apparently Alone with respect to your Lottery Ideas. I hope that you have Family that loves you as that is all that matters.
I know you tried to present your ideas here before. I / We Tried to do an Excel File with your ideas but you bailed after a few questions. I did not get the impression that it was a lack of trust; but rather an inability to see that your system could be reduced to Math and expressed in a spreadsheet.
It is a shame that you have such a restricted mindset in your Lottery Pursuit that you feel like you have to dump it on anyone who Endeavors to apply Mathematics and Data Analysis to the Games. It is also a Crock (my opinion) that you can't see that you are using math in your own process. Using Letters instead of Numbers is just another set of numbers on a different Base.
You never know, someone (maybe me) will one day take you posted ideas and create a Worksheet that replaces your pen and paper. Oh, all of my efforts with big data confirm that there is no guaranteed method of winning. After all of the Work, it still comes down to a guess. We guess Numbers and Codes, You do the Same but you exclude Numbers. We Both Guess.
Everyone here has a right to share their ideas and personal discoveries, including you. I'm guessing that most do not appreciate being told that their stuff is Crap and Their time is Wasted.
Maybe you should lighten up a little bit. You might find that there are a few folks here that can be trusted and you could leave something positive when your time comes.
Tinkerman,
As I said before, there is a Void between historical data and Next in the Lottery. As one who spends A LOT of time generating Data, I know it always comes back to a guess. I and most, I think, are just trying to guess from a different perspective. Your "Decades" Data is something that many of us have looked at, coded, counted, and coded again. I am a believer in Code Guessing. I continually try new codes and combinations of codes to guess from. Your Report (very well presented) is another list of codes that define groups of numbers but there is a lot of work and more reductions necessary to get the inventory down.
I am puzzled by you wanting to Educate people who are not Lottery Folks about cataloging methods for the game history. The Vast majority (including all of my friends) only buy a ticket when the Jackpot gets large enough to draw media attention. Other than that they are more anti than Our Friend Bob.
You found the Refuge, Welcome and don't give up
Oh, and don't forget The Lottery watches this and is afraid of what we might come up with. I find it hard to believe that the Lottery Complex does not have Everything Ever Posted and all of the Downloads offered here.
If you Ever want to go PM with this, I would be glad to see what I can help you with and learn in the process.
Tinkermen Lotto Report – Lottery Post Challenge
I would like to officially challenge All of the Lottery Post Forum Members here to collectively Create, Inform, Change and Make History TOGETHER!!!!
This is also a response to AllenB’s question as to: "I am puzzled by you wanting to Educate people who are not Lottery Folks about cataloging methods for the game history"
((BACKGROUND)) Currently Allen, the public's perception about the Lottery in general is that it is totally RANDOM. And that’s all they ever here on the 6 O’clock news when the Powerball Lottery reaches into the high hundreds of millions. The entire public world-wide, where lotteries are played in over 100 nations is totally unaware that every lottery in the world can be mathematically calculated and that there is a past draw history in relation to Lotto Probability Draw Pattern Mathematics.
So, the public in general for the most part goes down to the local 7-eleven when the Jackpots get high enough and purchase their Quick Pick Tickets for $2. In California (In the state where I live and have produced the Tinkermen Lotto Report for the California Super Lotto Plus, that I will use as a reference/example in this post) In 2016 Scratcher Tickets accounted for 4.4 Billion vs the 1.9 Billion in total sales bought for all of the other 8 Lotteries combined we play in our state.
Mainly because of the public’s general knowledge and perception about their chances of winning the lottery, but also from an entertainment standpoint Scratchers are just a lot more fun to play, they incorporate a physical interaction and a quick surprise or non-surprise results when played.
Going back about twenty-five years on avg about 10 winning tickets are sold each year in the California Super Lotto, someone please correct me if I’m wrong here. I’m just giving some background information here as to the state of the lottery play in my state as I sort of barley understand it.
Everyone I have shown the Tinkermen Lotto Report to is beyond surprised to learn that certain groups of numbers tend to be drawn at a higher rate than other Patterns and Groups and had no idea that Lotteries could be calculated using Mathematics. I made this Lotto Probability Draw Pattern Mathematics Discovery completely independently on my own years ago and I had no idea that anyone else even knew about this until I came to this Forum this week. Both a college and newspaper are interested in the report I’ve created, but the newspaper reporter says he needs to see where a mathematician has validated this type of mathematics were all using to calculate the lotteries with and get these results before he will write the story.
((This what I think and believe)) From my perspective and understanding if a basic lotto mathematics and past draws report of this nature were to be created for every lottery in the world and kept up to date daily and the public was informed about this Lotto Probability Draw Pattern Mathematics knowledge you all refer to as “Dacades” people would become more interested in choosing their own numbers and more people would start to win/split lottery jackpots throughout the world just based on sheer mathematics alone.
Currently most people generally play quick pick tickets, which evenly spreads out the combinations given to the public according to the Lotto Probability Draw Pattern Mathematics Draw Rate. But 6 of the 51 total Patterns/Groups in the California Super Lotto (that I’m using as an example here) actually account for 47 percent of the total winning draws. If the public was properly informed, people all over the world would become more interested in choosing their own numbers according to the patterns/groups that come up the most and start to write out their own combinations and more people would start to win and split and share in the lottery jackpots all over the world.
This in turn would cause more people to become interested in playing the lottery and choosing their own numbers, which would in turn be a win for the public and a win for our school systems ect. Who doesn’t like trying to pick the winner of the Indianapolis 500 or the Kentucky Derby (OK Bad example right now I know) Who wouldn’t want to sit around at their favorite bar and look at their phone and try and predict the next pattern/group that should come up next?
You and I both know Allen that there are even patterns to how the CODES/PATTERNS follow concerning the next pattern/group to come up and it might be slim, but you can sometimes predict the next CODES/PATTERN especially in the pick 4 games and that’s what would turn the game of Lotto around and make it a lot more for fun and enjoyable for the public. They get to actually look over all of the past draws that have already been separated according to the groups there in and try and look for the “What’s Next” answer that we all continually do and we all enjoy doing. They will too, we just all have to all work together to create a report for every lottery in the world and a place for them to come to, to get the updated information.
You also pointed out Allen that maybe “Your Report (very well presented) is another list of codes that define groups of numbers but there is a lot of work and more reductions necessary to get the inventory down” but I believe the public should be allowed to see all of the entire past draws separated by their Patterns and Groups. This will allow the public to search through and try to find the “What Next” they want to play. I know 155 pages is a lot and some lotteries that have like 5,000 plus draws would be even be a lot larger.
With Todd’s help and Lottery Post, this could very well be the place to locate this project as all of the experts and hobbyist are already here in one place. We could even install a numbers generator that would help the public get the best possible combinations for the particular pattern/group for the lottery they play in. As Dr San very well points out, we all already know a lot of combinations could be excluded that are going to give players the best chances, where as the quick pick machines of the world aren’t excluding anything.
As a Wikipedia editor this is just something standard for all of us to do together, we edit pages together, we debate on what should go within those pages and present to the public the most truthful information/data we can determine. Same thing here in this case applies, if we all work together, maybe we can give bobby623 something wonderful to work on that he can experience and help him really enjoy life with and be a part of something special instead of just a Chat Room?
Mr-B, G, Todd, Allen, Dr San, Cotteneyedjoe, CARBOB, Stack47 and bobby623, currently 10 of us have collectively commented on this thread and I know that’s not a lot of people. But it’s enough to come to a determination if I’m partially correct or not in my point of view and perspective. I don’t know how to run a website or anything like this type of thing, I just BELIEVE if we build and create the Lotto Reports showing the basics as described in the Tinkermen Lotto Report, they will come. The entire world will want to learn about this Lotto Probability Draw Pattern Mathematics history that they currently have no idea even exist today.
I have a reporter ready to write the story and a large college university that could probably help us with all of the foreign languages we’d need to deal with throughout the world. Besides being affiliated with a large university is a very important aspect I believe to giving a project of this type scientific credibility, so it doesn’t just look like a bunch of Lotto or Math Enthusiast are sitting around trying to make a buck $$$. I personally want to be a part of something bigger that helps thousands of people and makes history and we all have the collective talent and ability right here to do just that!
I believe we don’t need to give the public the “What’s Next” we just have to give the public the “What Is and What Has Happened Already in the Past” and let the public decide what to do with the information from there… That creates more overall winners…
"Lotteries are made up of independent random draws, which are mathematically deterministic and that lead to probable outcomes over the course of time, due to the law of large numbers"
- John Francis/Edvin Hitlner