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I finally figured out how to get the patterns in numerical order. Row twos pattern would read 23113...The second picture is how I got them in order. Plus anything higher than a 3 was changed to a 3 in the pattern. As you can see at the bottom of the spreadsheet...I have patterns from 1 to 14 rounds and the 28th round..Just got to plug in 15-27. It shouldn't take long. Still plugging away. Got some more ideas.
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Unless someone comes up with something that shows promise, I'm calling Gaps a dead end filter.
After 5214 drawings in OH 5/39 game
10 Gap codes hit 3 times (listed below)
251 Gap codes hit 2 times (listed below)
4682 Gap codes hit 1 time (not listed below)
68,873 Gap codes are no hits (not listed below)
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Not to distract from the thread, bur Cmoore50 has ball set numbers and machine numbers in posted data. I used to be able to see that information before Powerball and Megamillions redid their websites. How can I find that data ( along with pre-draw and post-draw numbers) now? Thanks in advance.
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Go to the powerball website...Click media center at bottom of page.Then click the media info tab. Then click..For powerball pre-test results. Word will open and you have all the data.
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Quote: Originally posted by Mr-B 216 on May 31, 2019
Unless someone comes up with something that shows promise, I'm calling Gaps a dead end filter.
After 5214 drawings in OH 5/39 game
10 Gap codes hit 3 times (listed below)
251 Gap codes hit 2 times (listed below)
4682 Gap codes hit 1 time (not listed below)
68,873 Gap codes are no hits (not listed below)
I agree that Gap Codes are not a good Active Filter.
I do not however, think they should be pronounced as dead. Instead they should be moved to the end of the line and used to evaluate combinations produced by other methods. I have suggested (to no response) that the difference between the highest and lowest numbers can be used to identify an additional group within a set of combinations so produced. Another way of using a Gap Code would be to assign it to those combinations and then look to see if that code has hit before. A running list of the winning codes and whether they have hit previously reveals a pattern wherein most of these codes have hit just once.
It might not seam to make a big difference, but other than a little bit of computer memory, it costs nothing to run the evaluation. It’s in the Data Now, so I might as well take a look at what it says. It is another guess, but one that I do not have to make, unless I see something or think I can get it right.
MrB, I am curious as to what you think of these suggestions that I have made. First that you add the 1-Off Pairs (Gap 1) and if you think there is any use for Gaps.
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Quote: Originally posted by Mr-B 216 on May 31, 2019
Unless someone comes up with something that shows promise, I'm calling Gaps a dead end filter.
After 5214 drawings in OH 5/39 game
10 Gap codes hit 3 times (listed below)
251 Gap codes hit 2 times (listed below)
4682 Gap codes hit 1 time (not listed below)
68,873 Gap codes are no hits (not listed below)
You seem to be right. Just doing the primary there is going to be a ton to keep up with. I dropped the p5-p1 for this one.
1234 starts with 25 combinations and end with 7 zeros, and 1244 starts with 24 combinations and ends with 8 zeros, 1254 starts with 23 combinations and ends with 9 zeros, and that patterns is continuing. We could fill in the blanks until the starting number hits 1, then start with 24 hits in the next round (I think).
Coulda done away with a lot of the nonsense of tracking zero returns by determining the max gap between each position. Shoulda.
1
2
3
4
25
1
2
3
5
24
1
2
3
6
23
1
2
3
7
22
1
2
3
8
21
1
2
3
9
20
1
2
3
10
19
1
2
3
11
18
1
2
3
12
17
1
2
3
13
16
1
2
3
14
15
1
2
3
15
14
1
2
3
16
13
1
2
3
17
12
1
2
3
18
11
1
2
3
19
10
1
2
3
20
9
1
2
3
21
8
1
2
3
22
7
1
2
3
23
6
1
2
3
24
5
1
2
3
25
4
1
2
3
26
3
1
2
3
27
2
1
2
3
28
1
1
2
3
29
0
1
2
3
30
0
1
2
3
31
0
1
2
3
32
0
1
2
3
33
0
1
2
3
34
0
1
2
3
35
0
1
2
4
4
24
1
2
4
5
23
1
2
4
6
22
1
2
4
7
21
1
2
4
8
20
1
2
4
9
19
1
2
4
10
18
1
2
4
11
17
1
2
4
12
16
1
2
4
13
15
1
2
4
14
14
At this point I'm hesitant to kill it and miss something, although I agree its likely a minimal benefit.
G
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Quote: Originally posted by garyo1954 on Jun 1, 2019
You seem to be right. Just doing the primary there is going to be a ton to keep up with. I dropped the p5-p1 for this one.
1234 starts with 25 combinations and end with 7 zeros, and 1244 starts with 24 combinations and ends with 8 zeros, 1254 starts with 23 combinations and ends with 9 zeros, and that patterns is continuing. We could fill in the blanks until the starting number hits 1, then start with 24 hits in the next round (I think).
Coulda done away with a lot of the nonsense of tracking zero returns by determining the max gap between each position. Shoulda.
1
2
3
4
25
1
2
3
5
24
1
2
3
6
23
1
2
3
7
22
1
2
3
8
21
1
2
3
9
20
1
2
3
10
19
1
2
3
11
18
1
2
3
12
17
1
2
3
13
16
1
2
3
14
15
1
2
3
15
14
1
2
3
16
13
1
2
3
17
12
1
2
3
18
11
1
2
3
19
10
1
2
3
20
9
1
2
3
21
8
1
2
3
22
7
1
2
3
23
6
1
2
3
24
5
1
2
3
25
4
1
2
3
26
3
1
2
3
27
2
1
2
3
28
1
1
2
3
29
0
1
2
3
30
0
1
2
3
31
0
1
2
3
32
0
1
2
3
33
0
1
2
3
34
0
1
2
3
35
0
1
2
4
4
24
1
2
4
5
23
1
2
4
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22
1
2
4
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21
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2
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1
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2
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2
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16
1
2
4
13
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1
2
4
14
14
At this point I'm hesitant to kill it and miss something, although I agree its likely a minimal benefit.
G
Keeping up with the Code requires at most 6 Columns of Data + a Structure and Structure#. This could be reduced to 2 Columns by combining the Total Gap with the other 4. This is a Code that is only a about 10% for Far. A Rule here might be to play only those combinations from the pool that have not hit before.
Tracking the total Gap separately is another Column and shows well in a vertical bar graph and has Potential because of the Limited Range of Values that typically hit. This Gap directly affects the 1st and 5th Position as shown in Total Gap Code breakdown that I posted about the Gap Idea.
I would agree that trying to get more out of gaps by identifying each position is a Ton of Work and most likely a futile attempt. I still maintain that the Code and the Total Gap are easy to maintain automatically in the Data and Should be looked at.
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Quote: Originally posted by AllenB on Jun 1, 2019
I agree that Gap Codes are not a good Active Filter.
I do not however, think they should be pronounced as dead. Instead they should be moved to the end of the line and used to evaluate combinations produced by other methods. I have suggested (to no response) that the difference between the highest and lowest numbers can be used to identify an additional group within a set of combinations so produced. Another way of using a Gap Code would be to assign it to those combinations and then look to see if that code has hit before. A running list of the winning codes and whether they have hit previously reveals a pattern wherein most of these codes have hit just once.
It might not seam to make a big difference, but other than a little bit of computer memory, it costs nothing to run the evaluation. It’s in the Data Now, so I might as well take a look at what it says. It is another guess, but one that I do not have to make, unless I see something or think I can get it right.
MrB, I am curious as to what you think of these suggestions that I have made. First that you add the 1-Off Pairs (Gap 1) and if you think there is any use for Gaps.
Allen, I posted the Gap Totals for OH 5/39 game here.
How would you suggest using this information?
I'm not suggesting you stop traveling down the Gap path, I'm just saying it is not one I see as being beneficial to ME. I do not have all of the answers here, and I think it's wise that we each choose to follow data trails that we feel could be the most beneficial. I have no problem supplying Gap data for OH 5/39 game if you need it.
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Quote: Originally posted by Mr-B 216 on Jun 1, 2019
Allen, I posted the Gap Totals for OH 5/39 game here.
How would you suggest using this information?
I'm not suggesting you stop traveling down the Gap path, I'm just saying it is not one I see as being beneficial to ME. I do not have all of the answers here, and I think it's wise that we each choose to follow data trails that we feel could be the most beneficial. I have no problem supplying Gap data for OH 5/39 game if you need it.
MrB, I don't know what else to say. I thought I suggested how to use the info.
I getting a sense that something else is going on here. Maybe a carry over from the Comments from the original Igor Topic.
At any Rate. That's it for me on posting any more about Gaps at this Time.
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Quote: Originally posted by AllenB on Jun 1, 2019
MrB, I don't know what else to say. I thought I suggested how to use the info.
I getting a sense that something else is going on here. Maybe a carry over from the Comments from the original Igor Topic.
At any Rate. That's it for me on posting any more about Gaps at this Time.
Good Luck
"I getting a sense that something else is going on here. Maybe a carry over from the Comments from the original Igor Topic."
I don't know what you mean by that statement.
Don't stop based on my views. Just because I don't see what you are seeing is no reason to bow out. garyo seems to understand what your are saying. I am a visual type of person who needs to see examples. That is why I asked you how you would use the Total Gap filter.
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Quote: Originally posted by Mr-B 216 on Jun 1, 2019
Allen, I posted the Gap Totals for OH 5/39 game here.
How would you suggest using this information?
I'm not suggesting you stop traveling down the Gap path, I'm just saying it is not one I see as being beneficial to ME. I do not have all of the answers here, and I think it's wise that we each choose to follow data trails that we feel could be the most beneficial. I have no problem supplying Gap data for OH 5/39 game if you need it.
Below is a Picture of a Quick Gap Check For Combinations that Passed the Filter.
First a shortened list of the Combinations that passed the 3 Filters.
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Quote: Originally posted by AllenB on Jun 1, 2019
Below is a Picture of a Quick Gap Check For Combinations that Passed the Filter.
First a shortened list of the Combinations that passed the 3 Filters.
Applying the Gap Filter
AllenB,
Never be afraid to pursue an idea. We each exercise a unique point of view. We can all look at the same data and see different ways to interpret it which means there is no singular right way.
I'm continuing to run this program. I may stop, determine the limits for each position and rewrite it. As it looks a 5/35 game will bottom out(zero out) at 1 2 27 4. If that happens, then everything from 1 2 27 4 to 1 2 35 4 will be zeros as well. That means a lot less gap codes than first suspected.
I'm good at being wrong, so it won't bother me now. But before I quit I'll have to come to an end point that tells me there is nothing left to do. And we're a long way from that now.
Meanwhile, I am looking at the TWINS and TRIPLES to see their best positions, or where they fall most often.....
TWINS
1,2
5456
0
0
0
5456
2,3
4960
496
0
0
5456
3,4
4495
930
31
0
5456
4,5
4060
1305
90
1
5456
5,6
3654
1624
174
4
5456
6,7
3276
1890
280
10
5456
7,8
2925
2106
405
20
5456
8,9
2600
2275
546
35
5456
9,10
2300
2400
700
56
5456
10,11
2024
2484
864
84
5456
11,12
1771
2530
1035
120
5456
12,13
1540
2541
1210
165
5456
13,14
1330
2520
1386
220
5456
14,15
1140
2470
1560
286
5456
15,16
969
2394
1729
364
5456
16,17
816
2295
1890
455
5456
17,18
680
2176
2040
560
5456
18,19
560
2040
2176
680
5456
19,20
455
1890
2295
856
5496
20,21
364
1729
2394
969
5456
21,22
286
1560
2470
1140
5456
22,23
220
1386
2520
1330
5456
23,24
165
1210
2541
1540
5456
24,25
120
1035
2530
1771
5456
25,26
84
864
2484
2024
5456
26,27
56
700
2400
2300
5456
27,28
35
546
2275
2600
5456
28,29
20
405
2106
2925
5456
29,30
10
280
1890
3276
5456
30,31
4
174
1624
3654
5456
31,32
1
90
1305
4060
5456
32,33
0
31
930
4495
5456
33,34
0
0
496
4960
5456
34,35
0
0
0
5456
5456
TRIPLES
1,2,3
496
0
0
496
2,3,4
465
31
0
496
3,4,5
435
60
1
496
4,5,6
406
87
3
496
5,6,7
378
112
6
496
6,7,8
351
135
10
496
7,8,9
325
156
15
496
8,9,10
300
175
21
496
9,10,11
276
192
28
496
10,11,12
253
207
36
496
11,12,13
231
220
45
496
12,13,14
210
231
55
496
13,14,15
190
240
66
496
14,15,16
171
247
78
496
15,16,17
153
252
91
496
16,17,18
136
255
105
496
17,18,19
120
256
120
496
18,19,20
105
255
136
496
19,20,21
91
252
153
496
20,21,22
78
247
171
496
21,22,23
66
240
190
496
22,23,24
55
231
210
496
23,24,25
45
220
231
496
24,25,26
36
207
253
496
25,26,27
28
192
276
496
26,27,28
21
175
300
496
27,28,29
15
156
325
496
28,29,30
10
135
351
496
29,30,31
6
112
378
496
30,31,32
3
87
406
496
31,32,33
1
60
435
496
32,33,34
0
31
465
496
33,34,35
0
0
496
496
Not sure if that does me any good either, but it certainly can't hurt knowing these bits of info. Over the years people have been known to pop in and ask the most off the wall questions and by some coincidence you may be the only one here who pursued that avenue and have the answer.
That's a good feeling!
G
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Back to Books strategy...I'm looking for a 1-1-2-2-2. Played pattern 1-2-2-2-2 and 1-2-2-2-3 once or twice...Only 7 two's in the 14th round of drawings..That's only happened 3 times. Six 2's has never occurred. So betting the 1's that will turn into 2's as my key. Played Five different pairs and one triple..Plus played the 3-2/2-3 odd/even strategy.
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Quote: Originally posted by Cmoore50 on Jun 1, 2019
Back to Books strategy...I'm looking for a 1-1-2-2-2. Played pattern 1-2-2-2-2 and 1-2-2-2-3 once or twice...Only 7 two's in the 14th round of drawings..That's only happened 3 times. Six 2's has never occurred. So betting the 1's that will turn into 2's as my key. Played Five different pairs and one triple..Plus played the 3-2/2-3 odd/even strategy.
Good luck!
I do not play PB, but a after a quick glance, I like these for White: 11, 12, 22, 33, 34, 42, 58, 59, 61, and 1, 5, and 18 for Red.