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bobby
People argue the over the odds without really considering what the odds mean.
There is nothing that says a digit can't show more often than expected over a
period of drawings. There is also nothing in the odds that says that a digit can't
show far less.
Odds are based on the total population divided by the number of places the digit
or number takes up, that's it. Given the draw is fair, ie random, it's also fair to
say that the number of draws that contain a certain digit or number will be directly
proportional to it's makeup within the matrix.
Odds don't say anything about which digit will show game to game or even over
several hundred. The odds are not affected regardless of how many times a digit
or number shows within a span of drawings. In time we can expect the percent
of hits to converge on the expected.
Anytime we can catch something moving in a positive way and can take advantage
of it before it ends then it's a plus. Sad to say, many times it's over before we catch
on or as some would say we can't see it looking forward, only when looking back.
Personally I study the odds to know what I am up against but once I decide to play a
game the only odds I consider are those for the choices I have make. Most of my
newer programs break the data down into 2 choices, 0 or 1. It's still not as easy as
one might think.
RL
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Thanks for your reply, RL.
I agree that there is nothing about lottery play that can be correctly called 'easy'.
All we can do, in my opinion, is create a rational and logical plan based on specific rules of procedure that track the activity in a drawing machine, and stay with it.
I've found that using the power of substitution and other features provide a variety of data bases that reflect where a game has been and where it might be headed.
To win, all I have to do is evaluate the trend lines and make the right choices.
I find that I can get into the ballpark, so to speak, almost every time I play, but choosing the winning integers is, as you say, not an easy task.
I'll pat myself on the back and say that my ability to find useful clues in the games I'm interested in is improving everyday.
I'm hopeful that one day soon I'll hit 5/5 in TX Cash 5 and pocket $25,000.
Unfortunately, the jackpot games have too many numbers.
I have the tracking charts for both games, but wheeling 24 numbers into a minimum of 8 sets is beyond my income level.
If I were younger, I think I would organize several Pick 3 teams and split the wins.
However, my senior citizen partners have banned gambling.
Hope you have some good luck with your systems. -
Ok hi bobby623,
so when I say xxx,yyy,zzz, that’s just to say I’m talking about 3 full 3 digit numbers, not just 3 digits. So when I say add I’m just saying add to the wheel. Yes of course with a group that large whichever one comes is a “lucky shot”. But they still come. Every week from that group. And every week from a different group. Same week. I know it’s hard to bet, of course it is. Sometimes when you’re rolling the wheels stop right in your tracks. Of course it’s confusing.
So I will just give a few examples from TX about what you said. Now granted TX gives 4 draws daily, much different from other states. So I would initially think of just doing it day by day. Again just for entertainment to show, because I realize this goes against conventional thinking.
TX first day of this year:
Add 030,242,620,131 on a calculator and also by way of lottery math. Get the avg from the calculation on a calculator. This would give mathematically speaking, 255 and 923. Add those two results with lottery math. And: 178. 178 str8 on Jan.6th.
So take the next day: do the same thing. Answers are 463 and 644 and 007. 634 Friday the 4th and 646 right after 634. So I’m just saying something there is all, just like you. If you add 463 and 644 on a calculator and divide by two, you get 553. 553 came on the 18th January straight.
So do the next day, the 3rd of January. Results are 263 , 593, and add them by lottery math you get 756. Well again 623 came on the 15th January. Add 263 and 593 and divide by two you get 428. 482 came on the 6th January.
Look that’s enough, all I’m saying is method to madness. I’m not saying I can control the wind you know. But there is something to it. There’s so many ways to look at the things I do, yes , but if you can figure it out right well it is definitely set in stone.
by the way, this is my own stuff, you will find no one talking like this or doing stuff like this. It is pencil and paper stuff too. A guy from Florida way back when you could still find internet pages that looked like type written pages from printers kind of got me started in thinking like this, but this whole way this whole idea is entirely my own. So thanks you know like I said ok and very very good luck to you as well.
Sometimes you do the right thing just because it’s right.
Life's a game of mathematics, if you can't figure that out I don't know what to tell you.
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Quote: Originally posted by Soledad on Nov 17, 2018
Ok hi bobby623,
so when I say xxx,yyy,zzz, that’s just to say I’m talking about 3 full 3 digit numbers, not just 3 digits. So when I say add I’m just saying add to the wheel. Yes of course with a group that large whichever one comes is a “lucky shot”. But they still come. Every week from that group. And every week from a different group. Same week. I know it’s hard to bet, of course it is. Sometimes when you’re rolling the wheels stop right in your tracks. Of course it’s confusing.
So I will just give a few examples from TX about what you said. Now granted TX gives 4 draws daily, much different from other states. So I would initially think of just doing it day by day. Again just for entertainment to show, because I realize this goes against conventional thinking.
TX first day of this year:
Add 030,242,620,131 on a calculator and also by way of lottery math. Get the avg from the calculation on a calculator. This would give mathematically speaking, 255 and 923. Add those two results with lottery math. And: 178. 178 str8 on Jan.6th.
So take the next day: do the same thing. Answers are 463 and 644 and 007. 634 Friday the 4th and 646 right after 634. So I’m just saying something there is all, just like you. If you add 463 and 644 on a calculator and divide by two, you get 553. 553 came on the 18th January straight.
So do the next day, the 3rd of January. Results are 263 , 593, and add them by lottery math you get 756. Well again 623 came on the 15th January. Add 263 and 593 and divide by two you get 428. 482 came on the 6th January.
Look that’s enough, all I’m saying is method to madness. I’m not saying I can control the wind you know. But there is something to it. There’s so many ways to look at the things I do, yes , but if you can figure it out right well it is definitely set in stone.
by the way, this is my own stuff, you will find no one talking like this or doing stuff like this. It is pencil and paper stuff too. A guy from Florida way back when you could still find internet pages that looked like type written pages from printers kind of got me started in thinking like this, but this whole way this whole idea is entirely my own. So thanks you know like I said ok and very very good luck to you as well.
Soledad, the arithmetic I'm talking about is not so much what you've illustrated here but, if it works out then that's great. Combinatorics and progressive transposition will tell the player which they're going in terms of possible win percentage every time. For me, it is MANDATORY that I know how much each play costs me, and, what type of win to 'expect.' Our friend bobby continues talking about winning tickets that he has cashed and those he hasn't but, I've NEVER read where he disclosed how much he spent prior to any of those wins. That's a problem for me, personally. Then again, he did say he plays for entertainment so it's cool. See, you can win on a draw at some point but, what do the actual numbers say in terms of profit, break even, or just a partial recovery? Maybe this is why bobby steers away from the aspects of math because it will also answer ALL of these questions. Every time I play, I know exactly where I stand financially when that play session is over...guaranteed.
Now, honestly, math isn't required so much when trying organize one's combos but it plays a major role when done organizing and trying to assess percentages of what to expect regarding a win. I notice that he used the word 'guess' when responding to oate and describing how he selects his numbers/combos which suggest that his wins may be luck-driven...and in turn not frequent enough to keep him ahead at all. On the other hand, maybe he falls into that category of players that has something which cannot be disclosed because other players will copy it and destroy the small games as we know them. I'm not sure either way. Since he's offering proof of winning tickets, I wonder if he'd let me see the losing tickets also so I can compile it all with MATH and see just where he really stands on his most current win? All the losing tickets shouldn't matter anyway, right? I think I'll send him my email! All in good lottery fun. *This is not an attack on our friend, okay. I'm just still wondering where all the substitution comes in and WHY. For what it's worth, I looked briefly and found the following link illustrating basic 'substitution' ...which is still resultant in math and/or numbers from mathematics. I just don't get why things are made harder than necessary...with pride.
http://www.coolmath.com/algebra/12-2x2-systems-of-equations/02-solving-by-substitution-01
Small games, frequent wins, and regular payouts 'cause.....
There are seven days in the week...'Someday' isn't one of them.
#lotto-4-a-living
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Quote: Originally posted by Lucky Loser on Nov 17, 2018
Soledad, the arithmetic I'm talking about is not so much what you've illustrated here but, if it works out then that's great. Combinatorics and progressive transposition will tell the player which they're going in terms of possible win percentage every time. For me, it is MANDATORY that I know how much each play costs me, and, what type of win to 'expect.' Our friend bobby continues talking about winning tickets that he has cashed and those he hasn't but, I've NEVER read where he disclosed how much he spent prior to any of those wins. That's a problem for me, personally. Then again, he did say he plays for entertainment so it's cool. See, you can win on a draw at some point but, what do the actual numbers say in terms of profit, break even, or just a partial recovery? Maybe this is why bobby steers away from the aspects of math because it will also answer ALL of these questions. Every time I play, I know exactly where I stand financially when that play session is over...guaranteed.
Now, honestly, math isn't required so much when trying organize one's combos but it plays a major role when done organizing and trying to assess percentages of what to expect regarding a win. I notice that he used the word 'guess' when responding to oate and describing how he selects his numbers/combos which suggest that his wins may be luck-driven...and in turn not frequent enough to keep him ahead at all. On the other hand, maybe he falls into that category of players that has something which cannot be disclosed because other players will copy it and destroy the small games as we know them. I'm not sure either way. Since he's offering proof of winning tickets, I wonder if he'd let me see the losing tickets also so I can compile it all with MATH and see just where he really stands on his most current win? All the losing tickets shouldn't matter anyway, right? I think I'll send him my email! All in good lottery fun. *This is not an attack on our friend, okay. I'm just still wondering where all the substitution comes in and WHY. For what it's worth, I looked briefly and found the following link illustrating basic 'substitution' ...which is still resultant in math and/or numbers from mathematics. I just don't get why things are made harder than necessary...with pride.
http://www.coolmath.com/algebra/12-2x2-systems-of-equations/02-solving-by-substitution-01
Lucky Loser
I thought I was done with this thread, but, I have additional comments to your last post to Soledad.
I'm a senior with a fixed income.
Lottery gambling is entertainment with a potential payback.
I have developed a workout I call 'Bob's Lottery Entertainment System' to guide my betting routine.
When I play, I rarely bet more than $25 per drawing for five sets in Pick 3, Daily 4, Cash 5 and either lotto or Two-Step.
Here are the results of my Saturday plays:
Pick 3 - I chose the wrong Alpha Double. Lost $5
Daily 4 - I chose the right Alpha Double but missed a Box win by one digit. Lost $5
Cash 5 - Had 2 numbers on one line and won a Free play. I lost $5 and I doubt the free QP will win anything.
Lotto - I spent $10 for 5 sets. I chose the Extra and had 2 of 6 on three lines for $6 win.
All of my plays were paid for with funds from my recent wins.
If you want to see my tickets, and some of my winning tickets, send me your email address.
Regarding some of your other questions.
No, I don't have any mathematics problems. I know exactly what I'm doing and I only use to grade-school arithmetic which requires that I know how to count to 16.
Your beliefs that I am unaware that I have a math-based workout is laughable.
Your belief that my wins are based on luck is misplaced.
I follow a specific routine. I know exactly what my choices are, and I choose digits/numbers that seem to have the best chance of becoming winners.
But, if you want to call that 'lucky', go right ahead. It will not effect/affect my way of doing things.
Regarding substitution.
You won't find what I do in any mathematics book.
If you really want to know what it means, I suggest you take some time and start reading my previous posts.
In fact, I strongly suggest that you do some investigating and learn how 'Bob's Lottery Entertainment System' was created and how it works. Otherwise, you are just 'barking at the moon' using uninformed opinions.
Like it or not, I have a non-math-based workout that is paying dividends - now and then, which is fine with me.
Your concerns about expenditures vs payoffs probably make sense to you, but, I don't need some elaborate return on investment nonsense to know what my financial score is.
I know that I've won enough in Daily 4 to finance my plays for about another year before I pay it all back.
As for Cash 5, which is a revision of an older game, my wins are keeping me in the ball park, so to speak, but, like any regular lottery gambler, I'm going to have to win a $25,000 jackpot to finance future play. I've had one 4/5 win ($350). I'm confident that one day soon I'll make a series of correct guesses and hit that jackpot.
As for Pick 3.
I would have to spend about $20 to cover the possibilities in a situation where only one set will win.
No thanks. I'll risk $5 and hope that one day everything will line up and I win $590. If not, it was fun trying.
Lotto and Two-Step are a challenge, but worth a try at minimum cost.
Jackpot games are too expensive for my budget.
Bottom line
I have a winning system that doesn't require that I use mathematics to give life, (i.e. lottery math and statistics) to lottery games that are essentially dumb as dirt.
Thanks for your interest. -
"I'm not sure what you meant in this statement."
What I mean is that lotteries offer a way to play based on sums because it's just one more way to let players spend their money. Period. It's because the lotteries know that some players think sums have some kind of significance, not because the lotteries think that sums have any significance beyond being a result people will bet on. At a basic level it's a variation on the close enough option offered by some lotteries. You may not have the winning combination, but you might meet some other measurable criteria that has a payout that's adjusted for the different likelihood of getting it right.
"sums are 100% relevant and are represented by math and numerical combos."
If there are numbers there's an opportunity to do math, but so what? Sums are no different than what individual numbers were drawn or not drawn. They tell you what happened, but offer nothing useful about what will happen. They're simply one of the products of events that are random and therfore unpredictable.
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Quote: Originally posted by Lucky Loser on Nov 17, 2018
Soledad, the arithmetic I'm talking about is not so much what you've illustrated here but, if it works out then that's great. Combinatorics and progressive transposition will tell the player which they're going in terms of possible win percentage every time. For me, it is MANDATORY that I know how much each play costs me, and, what type of win to 'expect.' Our friend bobby continues talking about winning tickets that he has cashed and those he hasn't but, I've NEVER read where he disclosed how much he spent prior to any of those wins. That's a problem for me, personally. Then again, he did say he plays for entertainment so it's cool. See, you can win on a draw at some point but, what do the actual numbers say in terms of profit, break even, or just a partial recovery? Maybe this is why bobby steers away from the aspects of math because it will also answer ALL of these questions. Every time I play, I know exactly where I stand financially when that play session is over...guaranteed.
Now, honestly, math isn't required so much when trying organize one's combos but it plays a major role when done organizing and trying to assess percentages of what to expect regarding a win. I notice that he used the word 'guess' when responding to oate and describing how he selects his numbers/combos which suggest that his wins may be luck-driven...and in turn not frequent enough to keep him ahead at all. On the other hand, maybe he falls into that category of players that has something which cannot be disclosed because other players will copy it and destroy the small games as we know them. I'm not sure either way. Since he's offering proof of winning tickets, I wonder if he'd let me see the losing tickets also so I can compile it all with MATH and see just where he really stands on his most current win? All the losing tickets shouldn't matter anyway, right? I think I'll send him my email! All in good lottery fun. *This is not an attack on our friend, okay. I'm just still wondering where all the substitution comes in and WHY. For what it's worth, I looked briefly and found the following link illustrating basic 'substitution' ...which is still resultant in math and/or numbers from mathematics. I just don't get why things are made harder than necessary...with pride.
http://www.coolmath.com/algebra/12-2x2-systems-of-equations/02-solving-by-substitution-01
“For me, it is MANDATORY that I know how much each play costs me, and what type of win to ‘expect’.
I respect this statement. It’s not something a lot of ‘beginners’ tend to think about. It is something that I have started to think very seriously about. This can lead to better focus in my opinion. To focus on how much you spend causes you to focus more on what you bet and why, which ultimately leads to patience which is very necessary.
Sometimes you do the right thing just because it’s right.
Life's a game of mathematics, if you can't figure that out I don't know what to tell you.