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Oct 29, 2015, 10:03 pm

Ok, let me explain in an easier way for those who are having difficulty understanding what I'm doing here.

Let's meet Billy. Billy had a lucky week when he decided to play 10 single combinations straight every night starting on Sunday, which was four nights ago.

Tonight, four nights later he won. The cost was 40 dollars. (10 dollars X 4 nights= $40.00 loss). And he played in a state that was NOT Parimutuel, so 500 was a "flat" pay-off.

500-won

- 40-lost due to cost

-$460.00 net profit.

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Oct 29, 2015, 10:17 pm

Quote: Originally posted by amber123 on Oct 29, 2015

Wow, I really have to explain this?

This was a simulation of what I would have won (540,000) in the past 10 months had I played, minus the cost (396,000), doubles and triples (112,200), and lowest numbers above 4(17,160).

Remember?..I was doing a back test?

Try reducing the picks with the selected sub-group with digit repeat option:

Assume your sub-group is 0,1,2,4, then your frequent pairs 5C2( digit repeat) will be>>

0,0} {0,1} {0,2} {0,3} {0,4} {1,1} {1,2} {1,3} {1,4} {2,2} {2,3} {2,4} {3,3} {3,4} {4,4}

Add remnant of pool (5,6,7,8,9) +4 members of group to the pairs:

005-006-007-008-009-001-002-003-004

015-016-017-018-019-012-013-014

021-023-024-025-026-027-028-029

031-032-034-035-036-037-038-039

340-341-342-345-346-347-348-349

440-441-442-443-445-446-447-448-449

Total picks should be less than 150, this is further reduced by Combo BET, eg you have picks 032,023,013,031 etc. Now assuming your waging outlet permits 25cents per pick, then a combo is just $1.50 x reduced pick will be less than $100 a draw. Note that combo for 3- way (eg 113) is 25 cents x3 .

FL -day

Draw Date	Results
Thu, Oct 29, 2015	6-1-3?Prize Payouts
Wed, Oct 28, 2015	4-0-6?Prize Payouts
Tue, Oct 27, 2015	1-6-1?Prize Payouts
Mon, Oct 26, 2015	4-8-9?Prize Payouts
Sun, Oct 25, 2015	5-0-4?Prize Payouts
Sat, Oct 24, 2015	3-0-2?Prize Payouts
Fri, Oct 23, 2015	3-8-9?Prize Payouts
Thu, Oct 22, 2015	4-7-9?Prize Payouts
Wed, Oct 21, 2015	0-2-9?Prize Payouts
Tue, Oct 20, 2015	8-4-0?Prize Payouts
Mon, Oct 19, 2015	1-0-3?Prize Payouts
Sun, Oct 18, 2015	3-1-7?Prize Payouts
Sat, Oct 17, 2015	9-9-2?Prize Payouts
Fri, Oct 16, 2015	4-8-0?Prize Payouts
Thu, Oct 15, 2015	1-5-4?Prize Payouts
Wed, Oct 14, 2015	7-6-7?Prize Payouts
Tue, Oct 13, 2015	3-4-1?Prize Payouts
Mon, Oct 12, 2015	8-2-1?Prize Payouts
Sun, Oct 11, 2015	9-3-0?Prize Payouts
Sat, Oct 10, 2015	7-5-5?Prize Payouts
Fri, Oct 9, 2015	4-0-5?Prize Payouts
Thu, Oct 8, 2015	1-2-3?Prize Payouts
Wed, Oct 7, 2015	5-7-1?Prize Payouts
Tue, Oct 6, 2015	6-8-4?Prize Payouts
Mon, Oct 5, 2015	4-8-5?Prize Payouts
Sun, Oct 4, 2015	5-3-4?Prize Payouts
Sat, Oct 3, 2015	6-8-5?Prize Payouts
Fri, Oct 2, 2015	5-3-1?Prize Payouts
Thu, Oct 1, 2015	1-1-9?Prize Payouts
Wed, Sep 30, 2015	2-8-7?Prize Payouts
Tue, Sep 29, 2015	3-2-3?Prize Payouts
Mon, Sep 28, 2015	7-9-3?Prize Payouts
Sun, Sep 27, 2015	4-5-4?Prize Payouts
Sat, Sep 26, 2015	8-9-4?Prize Payouts
Fri, Sep 25, 2015	8-3-1?Prize Payouts
Thu, Sep 24, 2015	2-0-2?Prize Payouts
Wed, Sep 23, 2015	1-7-8?Prize Payouts
Tue, Sep 22, 2015	3-0-3?Prize Payouts
Mon, Sep 21, 2015	3-3-2?Prize Payouts
Sun, Sep 20, 2015	3-4-7?Prize Payouts

Lets the sub-group pairs be the test> 0,0} {0,1} {0,2} {0,3} {0,4} {1,1} {1,2} {1,3} {1,4} {2,2} {2,3} {2,4} {3,3} {3,4} {4,4}

You had 26 wins out of 40 draws, now try to finish generating the picks, cancel similar picks (since you wage combo bet) and see the remnant picks. You can also select the most frequent pair considering the option 5C2(no digit repeat) for 10 distinct pairs, add remnant of the pool+ four members of the sub-group, delete similar picks for picks to be wage. Good luck.

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Oct 29, 2015, 10:34 pm

Quote: Originally posted by adobea78 on Oct 29, 2015

Try reducing the picks with the selected sub-group with digit repeat option:

Assume your sub-group is 0,1,2,4, then your frequent pairs 5C2( digit repeat) will be>>

0,0} {0,1} {0,2} {0,3} {0,4} {1,1} {1,2} {1,3} {1,4} {2,2} {2,3} {2,4} {3,3} {3,4} {4,4}

Add remnant of pool (5,6,7,8,9) +4 members of group to the pairs:

005-006-007-008-009-001-002-003-004

015-016-017-018-019-012-013-014

021-023-024-025-026-027-028-029

031-032-034-035-036-037-038-039

340-341-342-345-346-347-348-349

440-441-442-443-445-446-447-448-449

FL -day

Draw Date	Results
Thu, Oct 29, 2015	6-1-3?Prize Payouts
Wed, Oct 28, 2015	4-0-6?Prize Payouts
Tue, Oct 27, 2015	1-6-1?Prize Payouts
Mon, Oct 26, 2015	4-8-9?Prize Payouts
Sun, Oct 25, 2015	5-0-4?Prize Payouts
Sat, Oct 24, 2015	3-0-2?Prize Payouts
Fri, Oct 23, 2015	3-8-9?Prize Payouts
Thu, Oct 22, 2015	4-7-9?Prize Payouts
Wed, Oct 21, 2015	0-2-9?Prize Payouts
Tue, Oct 20, 2015	8-4-0?Prize Payouts
Mon, Oct 19, 2015	1-0-3?Prize Payouts
Sun, Oct 18, 2015	3-1-7?Prize Payouts
Sat, Oct 17, 2015	9-9-2?Prize Payouts
Fri, Oct 16, 2015	4-8-0?Prize Payouts
Thu, Oct 15, 2015	1-5-4?Prize Payouts
Wed, Oct 14, 2015	7-6-7?Prize Payouts
Tue, Oct 13, 2015	3-4-1?Prize Payouts
Mon, Oct 12, 2015	8-2-1?Prize Payouts
Sun, Oct 11, 2015	9-3-0?Prize Payouts
Sat, Oct 10, 2015	7-5-5?Prize Payouts
Fri, Oct 9, 2015	4-0-5?Prize Payouts
Thu, Oct 8, 2015	1-2-3?Prize Payouts
Wed, Oct 7, 2015	5-7-1?Prize Payouts
Tue, Oct 6, 2015	6-8-4?Prize Payouts
Mon, Oct 5, 2015	4-8-5?Prize Payouts
Sun, Oct 4, 2015	5-3-4?Prize Payouts
Sat, Oct 3, 2015	6-8-5?Prize Payouts
Fri, Oct 2, 2015	5-3-1?Prize Payouts
Thu, Oct 1, 2015	1-1-9?Prize Payouts
Wed, Sep 30, 2015	2-8-7?Prize Payouts
Tue, Sep 29, 2015	3-2-3?Prize Payouts
Mon, Sep 28, 2015	7-9-3?Prize Payouts
Sun, Sep 27, 2015	4-5-4?Prize Payouts
Sat, Sep 26, 2015	8-9-4?Prize Payouts
Fri, Sep 25, 2015	8-3-1?Prize Payouts
Thu, Sep 24, 2015	2-0-2?Prize Payouts
Wed, Sep 23, 2015	1-7-8?Prize Payouts
Tue, Sep 22, 2015	3-0-3?Prize Payouts
Mon, Sep 21, 2015	3-3-2?Prize Payouts
Sun, Sep 20, 2015	3-4-7?Prize Payouts

Lets the sub-group pairs be the test> 0,0} {0,1} {0,2} {0,3} {0,4} {1,1} {1,2} {1,3} {1,4} {2,2} {2,3} {2,4} {3,3} {3,4} {4,4}

FL-EVE

u, Oct 29, 2015	4-5-1?Prize Payouts
Wed, Oct 28, 2015	7-3-7?Prize Payouts
Tue, Oct 27, 2015	6-0-6?Prize Payouts
Mon, Oct 26, 2015	2-5-9?Prize Payouts
Sun, Oct 25, 2015	7-8-1?Prize Payouts
Sat, Oct 24, 2015	7-7-6?Prize Payouts
Fri, Oct 23, 2015	6-4-1?Prize Payouts
Thu, Oct 22, 2015	4-0-0?Prize Payouts
Wed, Oct 21, 2015	1-9-8?Prize Payouts
Tue, Oct 20, 2015	9-8-2?Prize Payouts
Mon, Oct 19, 2015	1-2-8?Prize Payouts
Sun, Oct 18, 2015	1-9-2?Prize Payouts
Sat, Oct 17, 2015	1-4-5?Prize Payouts
Fri, Oct 16, 2015	7-3-7?Prize Payouts
Thu, Oct 15, 2015	0-3-9?Prize Payouts
Wed, Oct 14, 2015	1-2-4?Prize Payouts
Tue, Oct 13, 2015	9-6-7?Prize Payouts
Mon, Oct 12, 2015	0-1-9?Prize Payouts
Sun, Oct 11, 2015	8-8-0?Prize Payouts
Sat, Oct 10, 2015	1-4-2?Prize Payouts
Fri, Oct 9, 2015	6-9-1?Prize Payouts
Thu, Oct 8, 2015	0-7-3?Prize Payouts
Wed, Oct 7, 2015	7-0-4?Prize Payouts
Tue, Oct 6, 2015	7-3-0?Prize Payouts
Mon, Oct 5, 2015	7-9-3?Prize Payouts
Sun, Oct 4, 2015	6-6-7?Prize Payouts
Sat, Oct 3, 2015	9-8-8?Prize Payouts
Fri, Oct 2, 2015	7-5-1?Prize Payouts
Thu, Oct 1, 2015	2-9-6?Prize Payouts
Wed, Sep 30, 2015	8-8-9?Prize Payouts
Tue, Sep 29, 2015	8-9-8?Prize Payouts
Mon, Sep 28, 2015	7-3-3?Prize Payouts
Sun, Sep 27, 2015	5-2-5?Prize Payouts
Sat, Sep 26, 2015	8-3-7?Prize Payouts
Fri, Sep 25, 2015	5-7-2?Prize Payouts
Thu, Sep 24, 2015	4-7-6?Prize Payouts
Wed, Sep 23, 2015	5-9-9?Prize Payouts
Tue, Sep 22, 2015	8-4-6?Prize Payouts
Mon, Sep 21, 2015	4-8-9?Prize Payouts
Sun, Sep 20, 2015	8-3-2?Prize Payouts

TEST option(digit repeat)>

0,0} {0,1} {0,2} {0,3} {0,4} {1,1} {1,2} {1,3} {1,4} {2,2} {2,3} {2,4} {3,3} {3,4} {4,4}

13/40 is a huge hole, only option is reduced picks and observing trend for each draw type (Day or EVE).

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Oct 29, 2015, 10:52 pm

Quote: Originally posted by amber123 on Oct 29, 2015
Ok, let me explain in an easier way for those who are having difficulty understanding what I'm doing here.

Let's meet Billy. Billy had a lucky week when he decided to play 10 single combinations straight every night starting on Sunday, which was four nights ago.

Tonight, four nights later he won. The cost was 40 dollars. (10 dollars X 4 nights= $40.00 loss). And he played in a state that was NOT Parimutuel, so 500 was a "flat" pay-off.

500-won

- 40-lost due to cost

-$460.00 net profit.

I made a mistake, it was 5 days not 4.

500-won

-50-cost

$450.00 net profit.
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Oct 29, 2015, 11:22 pm

Quote: Originally posted by amber123 on Oct 29, 2015
I made a mistake, it was 5 days not 4.

500-won

-50-cost

$450.00 net profit.

How does Billy's Play have anything to do with your system?
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Oct 29, 2015, 11:42 pm

Quote: Originally posted by AllenB on Oct 29, 2015
How does Billy's Play have anything to do with your system?

Both have a payout, and both have a cost. Billy got lucky because there were no doubles, and Billy didn't know anything about numbers above 4. His only cost was the cost. 50 bucks !

Billy was more lucky than I was because unlike he, I had doubles, triples, and lowest numbers above 4, which resulted in less profit.
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Oct 30, 2015, 5:37 pm

Quote: Originally posted by amber123 on Oct 29, 2015
Wow, I really have to explain this?

This was a simulation of what I would have won (540,000) in the past 10 months had I played, minus the cost (396,000), doubles and triples (112,200), and lowest numbers above 4(17,160).

Remember?..I was doing a back test?

"This was a simulation of what I would have won (540,000) in the past 10 months had I played "

You're claiming $900 wins on the drawings where you lost. The cost is what was spent in ever drawing and overall win or loss is determined by subtracting what you won. You're subtracting the losses from what you "could have won".

For those who can do the real math, wagering $660 a drawing for 600 drawings is $396,000 and then determine the number of winning drawings. It looks like 196 doubles, triples and lowest numbers above 4 were drawn leaving 404 real winning drawings. And that equals $363,600 in collections and $32,400 in losses.

"Remember?..I was doing a back test? "

It looks more like you're using your ignorance of simple grade school math to make it look like your system words.
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Oct 30, 2015, 5:54 pm

Quote: Originally posted by AllenB on Oct 29, 2015
How does Billy's Play have anything to do with your system?

Probably nothing, but at least this time the math was correct; winnings ($500) minus losses ($50). The other examples showed winners in every drawing ($540,000 minus) what was spent crediting themselves with $240 for every losing drawing.
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Oct 30, 2015, 10:34 pm
Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Oct 30, 2015
"This was a simulation of what I would have won (540,000) in the past 10 months had I played "

You're claiming $900 wins on the drawings where you lost. The cost is what was spent in ever drawing and overall win or loss is determined by subtracting what you won. You're subtracting the losses from what you "could have won".

For those who can do the real math, wagering $660 a drawing for 600 drawings is $396,000 and then determine the number of winning drawings. It looks like 196 doubles, triples and lowest numbers above 4 were drawn leaving 404 real winning drawings. And that equals $363,600 in collections and $32,400 in losses.

"Remember?..I was doing a back test? "

It looks more like you're using your ignorance of simple grade school math to make it look like your system words.
My ignorance? lol

Take a 3 day back test instead of a 600 draw back test. I obviously have to simplify this even more so You can understand better. Yikes !

Let's say my goal to win 500 bucks straight on 123 started 3 days ago. That date would be 10-27-2015.

The cost to play was 10 straight combos every mid and evening draws for three full days.

I finally won on the third day (eve draw, tonight) ...

The WIN Is $500. bucks.

The cost is $10.00 twice a day =$20.00 a day, for 3 days=$60.00 I WON $500.00 (BUT I HAD A COST)

The net profit was-drum roll....

500.00-jackpot for a straight win
- 60.00-cost
- $440.00-Net profit.
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Quote: Originally posted by amber123 on Oct 30, 2015
My ignorance? lol

Take a 3 day back test instead of a 600 draw back test. I obviously have to simplify this even more so You can understand better. Yikes !

Let's say my goal to win 500 bucks straight on 123 started 3 days ago. That date would be 10-27-2015.

The cost to play was 10 straight combos every mid and evening draws for three full days.

I finally won on the third day (eve draw, tonight) ...

The WIN Is $500. bucks.

The cost is $10.00 twice a day =$20.00 a day, for 3 days=$60.00 I WON $500.00 (BUT I HAD A COST)

The net profit was-drum roll....

500.00-jackpot for a straight win
- 60.00-cost
- $440.00-Net profit.
So once you understand this, it's time to move on to what's below.

The WIN, 540,000 comes with a cost...

There are THREE costs...
1. THE COST-396,000
2. The doubles and trips-lost $112,200
3. Lowest numbers above 4. -lost $17,160
4. Net profit after cost and losses =1,460 a month profit.
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Oct 30, 2015, 11:33 pm
Quote: Originally posted by amber123 on Oct 30, 2015
My ignorance? lol

Take a 3 day back test instead of a 600 draw back test. I obviously have to simplify this even more so You can understand better. Yikes !

Let's say my goal to win 500 bucks straight on 123 started 3 days ago. That date would be 10-27-2015.

The cost to play was 10 straight combos every mid and evening draws for three full days.

I finally won on the third day (eve draw, tonight) ...

The WIN Is $500. bucks.

The cost is $10.00 twice a day =$20.00 a day, for 3 days=$60.00 I WON $500.00 (BUT I HAD A COST)

The net profit was-drum roll....

500.00-jackpot for a straight win
- 60.00-cost
- $440.00-Net profit.
"Take a 3 day back test instead of a 600 draw back test. "

You said you back tested 600 drawing and your system won $540,000 "540,000-won (900 X 600=540,000) "which is $900 a drawing. From that you subtracted the actual losses and claimed you showed a profit "That would come out to 14,640 net profit every month since January. "

First is was $660 a day for 600 drawings and now it's $10 a drawing for 4 drawings. Next time somebody asks "where is WinD?", I'll give link to your thread.
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Oct 30, 2015, 11:39 pm

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Oct 30, 2015
"Take a 3 day back test instead of a 600 draw back test. "

You said you back tested 600 drawing and your system won $540,000 "540,000-won (900 X 600=540,000) "which is $900 a drawing. From that you subtracted the actual losses and claimed you showed a profit "That would come out to 14,640 net profit every month since January. "

First is was $660 a day for 600 drawings and now it's $10 a drawing for 4 drawings. Next time somebody asks "where is WinD?", I'll give link to your thread.

lol

660 is the cost per draw mid and eve, so you multiply it by 600 draws. That equals to 396,000, cost.

Then comes doubles and trips, 112,200

Then again another cost, aw life sucks..lol- $17,160 thanks to lowest numbers above 4. When will this madness STOP?

Good Grief !, I'd be happy with an additional 1500 bucks a month.
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Oct 30, 2015, 11:48 pm
Quote: Originally posted by amber123 on Oct 30, 2015
So once you understand this, it's time to move on to what's below.

The WIN, 540,000 comes with a cost...

There are THREE costs...
1. THE COST-396,000
2. The doubles and trips-lost $112,200
3. Lowest numbers above 4. -lost $17,160
4. Net profit after cost and losses =1,460 a month profit.
"The WIN, 540,000 comes with a cost "

The only way to get a $540,000 win from 600 drawings is to win $900 IN EVERY DRAWING.

"Net profit after cost and losses =1,460 a month profit. "

Your cost and losses are correct, but your profit is off by $47,040. You can't subtract losses form profits you never made (even in a simulation).

Tell your system won $900 a drawing for 600 drawings after showing 196 drawings where you won nothing?
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Oct 30, 2015, 11:54 pm

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Oct 30, 2015
"The WIN, 540,000 comes with a cost "

The only way to get a $540,000 win from 600 drawings is to win $900 IN EVERY DRAWING.

"Net profit after cost and losses =1,460 a month profit. "

Your cost and losses are correct, but your profit is off by $47,040. You can't subtract losses form profits you never made (even in a simulation).

Tell your system won $900 a drawing for 600 drawings after showing 196 drawings where you won nothing?

"The WIN, 540,000 comes with a cost "

The only way to get a $540,000 win from 600 drawings is to win $900 IN EVERY DRAWING.

Now we're getting somewhere. Small steps.

Tell your system won $900 a drawing for 600 drawings after showing 196 drawings where you won nothing?

I thought I already did. Below is an excerpt from me a page or two ago, maybe more, I forget.

Total-170 doubles and triples.

Now there is absolutely no speculation about the tally of numbers that are higher than 4, tally of the doubles and triples.

540,000-won (900 X 600=540,000)

-396,000-cost (660 X 600=396,000)

-112,200-lost in doubles and triples (170 X 660=112,200)

- 17,160-lost due to 26 numbers with the lowest digit above 4 (26 X 660=17,160)

= 14,640- net profit for the last 10 months

1,460 net profit a month.

EDIT: Forgot, 170 plus 26 equals 196. Here's your 196 losses.
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Quote: Originally posted by amber123 on Oct 30, 2015
lol

660 is the cost per draw mid and eve, so you multiply it by 600 draws. That equals to 396,000, cost.

Then comes doubles and trips, 112,200

Then again another cost, aw life sucks..lol- $17,160 thanks to lowest numbers above 4. When will this madness STOP?

Good Grief !, I'd be happy with an additional 1500 bucks a month.

"When will this madness STOP? "

When you acknowledge the fact you're making obvious errors in your math.

"Good Grief !, I'd be happy with an additional 1500 bucks a month. "

That would be nice, but without a huge swing defying all probability, players will lose their shirts with "easy pick-3 system".

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