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May 31, 2010, 10:32 am

Quote: Originally posted by Raven62 on May 31, 2010
Of course you know: They'll do the opposite of what anyone says here! LOL!

We're gonna give em the benefit of the doubt one last time.
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May 31, 2010, 10:34 am

WASHINGTON STATE:

I want the thermal printers printing routine the same speed for betslip selections as it is for QP selections. It is a software fix and There is nothing wrong with the data stream to the terminal, it's how the data is printed that is wrong: the rate. That is a software problem, or is it to encourage QP's only? It is a software problem. Fix it! If you do not like systems players who bet more and often, then ban betslips.

Your self-serve kiosks do not allow direct digit entry without a betslip and when it rips me off for a dollar, nobody is around to pay me back. It just burped for a second and then got amnesia, but not entirely- I had to feed it more to supply my betslip needs.

Nobody but the largest grocery stores can pay out more than $80.00-$100.00 including the state-run liquior stores when they are were once supposed to pay up to and including $600.00. If you do not fix this then list WHO will pay, where- no more monkeying around with false intentions .

Please provide the daily game stats online with payout info, numbers of winners, etc. Same as on the daily report provided in the stores.

The Keno game has the worst payouts on the west coast, forget a 4 minute game and more lottery lounges- the printers can't handle it and the runners will not tolerate it. The order is booze/gas, food, gambling. Oregon has a much better payout, but the 4 minute game still sucks. It used to be 10 minutes. Systems players are not a threat to the lottery as much as it's own greed is. Overworked and underpaid clerks will not make a 4 minute keno game fly. Casinos can get away with it because they staff the game. Just ask Ohio how their 4 minute keno game is doing. BTW, the kiosks are an excuse for stores to get out of the clerk interface, except for the occasional win and lousy payout they are willing to pay.

Go after the gumball machine vendors pitching a chance to win a dollar while the kids put quarters in the machines. One outfit says they are helping the Meth problem with some of the proceeds while the phone number listed on the machine is disconnected. The same outfit has machine(s) in Oregon too. This is not the first time this illegal gambling involving children has been documented. The problem is over a decade old. No action on your part to stop this is sending the wrong message to the general public, including children. Last person I knew that was caught got a slap on the wrist and moved the gambling gumball machine to her Oregon store (same set-up, win a big dollar item for 25 cents). If the state needs money, write some tickets, give some fines! Shut these dirtbags down!

I want the winning numbers to the next draw while your fixing things. A small jackpot would be fine. ( that's a joke)

DD
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May 31, 2010, 10:35 am

Quote: Originally posted by Raven62 on May 31, 2010
Of course you know: They'll do the opposite of what anyone says here! LOL!

Know what? You have a good point here, and, they'd likely disregard any requests made by us. This is why there's power in numbers, and, if players could just come together COLLECTIVELY EVERYWHERE and CUT THE SALES, we'd have a much better shot at leverage.

Remember, nobody likes their money messed with. In the end, the players don't need the lotteries but, the lotteries do, in fact, need the players. We've gotta get together on this thing!!

L.L.
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May 31, 2010, 10:38 am

LL

I have not played for quite some time. nada
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May 31, 2010, 10:47 am

Quote: Originally posted by Delta Draw on May 31, 2010
WASHINGTON STATE:

I want the thermal printers printing routine the same speed for betslip selections as it is for QP selections. It is a software fix and There is nothing wrong with the data stream to the terminal, it's how the data is printed that is wrong: the rate. That is a software problem, or is it to encourage QP's only? It is a software problem. Fix it! If you do not like systems players who bet more and often, then ban betslips.

Your self-serve kiosks do not allow direct digit entry without a betslip and when it rips me off for a dollar, nobody is around to pay me back. It just burped for a second and then got amnesia, but not entirely- I had to feed it more to supply my betslip needs.

Nobody but the largest grocery stores can pay out more than $80.00-$100.00 including the state-run liquior stores when they are were once supposed to pay up to and including $600.00. If you do not fix this then list WHO will pay, where- no more monkeying around with false intentions .

Please provide the daily game stats online with payout info, numbers of winners, etc. Same as on the daily report provided in the stores.

The Keno game has the worst payouts on the west coast, forget a 4 minute game and more lottery lounges- the printers can't handle it and the runners will not tolerate it. The order is booze/gas, food, gambling. Oregon has a much better payout, but the 4 minute game still sucks. It used to be 10 minutes. Systems players are not a threat to the lottery as much as it's own greed is. Overworked and underpaid clerks will not make a 4 minute keno game fly. Casinos can get away with it because they staff the game. Just ask Ohio how their 4 minute keno game is doing. BTW, the kiosks are an excuse for stores to get out of the clerk interface, except for the occasional win and lousy payout they are willing to pay.

Go after the gumball machine vendors pitching a chance to win a dollar while the kids put quarters in the machines. One outfit says they are helping the Meth problem with some of the proceeds while the phone number listed on the machine is disconnected. The same outfit has machine(s) in Oregon too. This is not the first time this illegal gambling involving children has been documented. The problem is over a decade old. No action on your part to stop this is sending the wrong message to the general public, including children. Last person I knew that was caught got a slap on the wrist and moved the gambling gumball machine to her Oregon store (same set-up, win a big dollar item for 25 cents). If the state needs money, write some tickets, give some fines! Shut these dirtbags down!

I want the winning numbers to the next draw while your fixing things. A small jackpot would be fine. ( that's a joke)

DD

Delta in tha' house!! Now, we're gettin' somewhere!! Higher payouts would most definitely be embraced. I've said many times that the states should have a "true" online wagering system where players could simply enter their numbers with their laptops (desktops).

This is convenience for the player as opposed to standing in line trying to play their numbers...especially if a player wants to play a large set of numbers. There are so many things that could make the numbers games a whole lot better. And they wonder why people want to play online where all these things are offered...

As I've said, we've gotta get together here.

L.L.
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May 31, 2010, 10:48 am

Quote: Originally posted by Delta Draw on May 31, 2010
LL

I have not played for quite some time. nada

And I don't blame you. For that matter, I haven't played either. I "feel" you Delta.

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May 31, 2010, 10:58 am

Hell, while I'm goin' that way, why can't they offer the masses the .25 cent bets??? Make it a little lighter on the player's wallet!! They'd make up for it in pure volume from MORE PLAYERS because everybody wants a better bargain!!!

"IF WE DON'T PLAY, WE'LL HAVE MORE SAY!!!!!!"

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joker831

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May 31, 2010, 11:10 am

For Arizona:

No pre-draws

$1 per ticket cost not $2 for some games with small jackpots

No computer RNG draws. Ridiculous.

Use a ball drop machine

Get rid of half the scratcher games. Way too many of them

The possibilites are endless.... might as well start at the begining
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May 31, 2010, 11:26 am

I believe the only way to get a state to stop computer drawings, is for everybody quit buying tickets. Then they might get the message.
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May 31, 2010, 11:33 am

Why did the VA lottery put self serve machines all over with the ticket being spit out of the machines about a foot from the floor. You have to bend all the way down and the tickets come out one at a time so you have to stay there or the tickets spit out onto the floor. Besides that , when some folks are bent over to get their tickets , It's not a pretty sight.

Also , Why not spend some of the money the state gets on fixing the potholes all over the road instead of all of it going the education fund. The Education fund is a good idea but the roads are a mess all over the state.

Good Luck,
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May 31, 2010, 12:25 pm

Quote: Originally posted by Blackie on May 31, 2010
Why did the VA lottery put self serve machines all over with the ticket being spit out of the machines about a foot from the floor. You have to bend all the way down and the tickets come out one at a time so you have to stay there or the tickets spit out onto the floor. Besides that , when some folks are bent over to get their tickets , It's not a pretty sight.

Also , Why not spend some of the money the state gets on fixing the potholes all over the road instead of all of it going the education fund. The Education fund is a good idea but the roads are a mess all over the state.

Yeah the roads keep getting worse and kids in VA aren't gettin' any smarter...so I am with fixing the roads in VA with Lottery money.

$1,000,000
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May 31, 2010, 1:20 pm

Quote: Originally posted by tmead on May 31, 2010
We don't want pre-tests (tantamount to pure fraud).

We don't want computer-generated lotteries.

We don't want the employees pushing the button for the balls to come out on their own time and discretion.

That's all I can think of for now.

Thank you rd for this great Thread!!!

NYC and since I do have friends Living there also New Jersey!

To the Lottery Officials All of the Above!! and I would add;that you stop holding back numbers that are due longer than my son is old! Namely 3333 for 27!!!! years and 0000 18 years??!!!! ~ It's both fraud an insulting your clients in the worst way!

You actally believe they don't know what you are doing! Come on 27 YEARS!!!! and some you will not bring out at all???!!!

Stop paying people a pittance, for 4 numbers out of 5 in the Pick 5 games!

We ask you to stop it! Stop with the insults to our inteligence and these unfair game practices tu New York City, and especially to New Jersey!

forget what "they" say about you. What you say about you?...

Now, does it count??

*Jr$ina
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May 31, 2010, 1:30 pm

Quote: Originally posted by gsc5 on May 31, 2010
I believe the only way to get a state to stop computer drawings, is for everybody quit buying tickets. Then they might get the message.

I agree totally. That is why I have never bought a Tennessee lotto ticket since they went to RNG. I do buy Powerball when the jackpot is over 150 million and Mega when they do the same but not a Tennessee game. I know the state gets a slice of my $1 from PB and MM; there is nothing I can do about that. But I refuse to give Tennessee the whole $1.

We should band all players together to boycott RNG. That is what we should do but pushing a wet noodle uphill with our nose might be a whole lot easier.
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May 31, 2010, 1:42 pm

Quote: Originally posted by GASMETERGUY on May 31, 2010
I agree totally. That is why I have never bought a Tennessee lotto ticket since they went to RNG. I do buy Powerball when the jackpot is over 150 million and Mega when they do the same but not a Tennessee game. I know the state gets a slice of my $1 from PB and MM; there is nothing I can do about that. But I refuse to give Tennessee the whole $1.

We should band all players together to boycott RNG. That is what we should do but pushing a wet noodle uphill with our nose might be a whole lot easier.

Not really!! don't understimate the anger of people when they realize funny stuff is happening with their Money! People can get real mad about that!

forget what "they" say about you. What you say about you?...

Now, does it count??

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May 31, 2010, 2:42 pm

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on May 31, 2010
ThatScaryChick,

Gee, that is pitiful for a Pick 5.

Illinois used to be 5/30 and went to 5/39, big difference, but there have been jackpots of $1,000,000.

People wanted to get paid for hitting 2 numbers, so now 2 pays $1 (be careful what you wish for!), 3 pays $10 and 4 pays $100 and the jackpots are progressive.

When it was 5/30, if I remember right, the jackpot was a fixed $200,000 and 4 of 5 and 3 of 5 were pari-mutuel.

But for your state, 5/36 stafrting at $20,000 and progressing by hundreds is really weak.

It really is pitiful, Coin Toss. I love Pick 5 games and I and others from my state waited years to finally get the game and it's just bad. I wish they would look at what some other states are doing with their pick 5 game and follow their lead.

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