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Claire,
I've had a chance to play with this...personally I've found that it works better if I don't transpose the last two digits. However......
The reason it works well is that it usually gives you seven of the ten digits to play. So you are going to have to wheel 70% of the digits to catch it. That's 120 boxed combinations out of the 220 possible combinations boxed. You can't play that many and make a profit. Therefore you would have to start filtering to eliminate combinations, and it is very likely you would eliminate the one that hits.
The reason it works well to provide the three digits that hit is purely statistical. It should work and it does.
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Hey Em,
We got 3 in Kentucky Today's mid day was 209 and here it is in the workout I gave ya!
28+ 84+ 28- 84-
12= 12= 12= 12=
4096 16 72 < these are the numbers you use for the next draw to be in.
GA had 248 on 04/12/06 evening.
The 209 was in KY-midday today 04/14/06.
I didn't see 248 in KY on 04/13/06 to get the winning hit 209 for today.
Hi Laverne,
Em asked me to work up that number and I had no Idea where it came from then today she said in a post that KY got 2 of the numbers in that work up and so I looked at KY mid day and it actually got all 3 numbers. GA Mid Day was 802 even so 2 of the numbers were in that work out 0 and 2.
Again I had no Idea why she asked me to do that number but I did the workout for that number. This is why I said 3 of KY numbers were in that work out. Guess you have to read the whole tread to understand it. LOL
I read the entire thread.
That's why I thought the workout for the previous hit for that state would yield a hit for the next draw in that same state. Just as it was happening in PA.
Hi Laverne,
I apologize, because I did not know where the number she gave me to work out came form. Looks Like GA reverse work out yielded Kentucky's Mid Day 3 digit hit! Hmmmmmmm? Another thing I noticed is that sometimes when I do PA's Day reverse work out it will yield Florida's Night Draw!! That has happened as well. Maybe it can work something like mirrors. Like PA workout can yield a hit for another state as well! Because look at what happened with GA's work out! It hit for Kentucky!
At any rate I am going to keep with this and do more tests. If we can use it to get a few hits a week why not, I used it a few days in a row with Great Success.
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Hey Em,
We got 3 in Kentucky Today's mid day was 209 and here it is in the workout I gave ya!
28+ 84+ 28- 84-
12= 12= 12= 12=
4096 16 72 < these are the numbers you use for the next draw to be in.
GA had 248 on 04/12/06 evening.
The 209 was in KY-midday today 04/14/06.
I didn't see 248 in KY on 04/13/06 to get the winning hit 209 for today.
Hi Laverne,
Em asked me to work up that number and I had no Idea where it came from then today she said in a post that KY got 2 of the numbers in that work up and so I looked at KY mid day and it actually got all 3 numbers. GA Mid Day was 802 even so 2 of the numbers were in that work out 0 and 2.
Again I had no Idea why she asked me to do that number but I did the workout for that number. This is why I said 3 of KY numbers were in that work out. Guess you have to read the whole tread to understand it. LOL
I read the entire thread.
That's why I thought the workout for the previous hit for that state would yield a hit for the next draw in that same state. Just as it was happening in PA.
Hi Laverne,
I apologize, because I did not know where the number she gave me to work out came form. Looks Like GA reverse work out yielded Kentucky's Mid Day 3 digit hit! Hmmmmmmm? Another thing I noticed is that sometimes when I do PA's Day reverse work out it will yield Florida's Night Draw!! That has happened as well. Maybe it can work something like mirrors. Like PA workout can yield a hit for another state as well! Because look at what happened with GA's work out! It hit for Kentucky!
At any rate I am going to keep with this and do more tests. If we can use it to get a few hits a week why not, I used it a few days in a row with Great Success.
Clairvoyance, there is no need to apologize. It was an innocent happening. I'm still happy over your discovery.
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Claire,
I've had a chance to play with this...personally I've found that it works better if I don't transpose the last two digits. However......
The reason it works well is that it usually gives you seven of the ten digits to play. So you are going to have to wheel 70% of the digits to catch it. That's 120 boxed combinations out of the 220 possible combinations boxed. You can't play that many and make a profit. Therefore you would have to start filtering to eliminate combinations, and it is very likely you would eliminate the one that hits.
The reason it works well to provide the three digits that hit is purely statistical. It should work and it does.
Hi Badger,
Hmmmmm, ok were you not reversing the last 2 digits for Wisconsin? And it worked better? Because when I was not reversing the last 2 digits in PA I would get at least a pair but then when I reversed I would get the 3 digits. No luck tonight except that the Day Number workout without reversing this time yielded the 89 pair for Tonight's PA draw which was 869
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Thanks Em,
I like it too and am having fun with it especially when you see the 3 digit draw in the work out! I am waiting to see how long of a break it takes........I am guessing maybe a day or 2 and I do think it will start panning out again.
Wisconsin United States
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Claire,
I've had a chance to play with this...personally I've found that it works better if I don't transpose the last two digits. However......
The reason it works well is that it usually gives you seven of the ten digits to play. So you are going to have to wheel 70% of the digits to catch it. That's 120 boxed combinations out of the 220 possible combinations boxed. You can't play that many and make a profit. Therefore you would have to start filtering to eliminate combinations, and it is very likely you would eliminate the one that hits.
The reason it works well to provide the three digits that hit is purely statistical. It should work and it does.
Hi Badger,
Hmmmmm, ok were you not reversing the last 2 digits for Wisconsin? And it worked better? Because when I was not reversing the last 2 digits in PA I would get at least a pair but then when I reversed I would get the 3 digits. No luck tonight except that the Day Number workout without reversing this time yielded the 89 pair for Tonight's PA draw which was 869
Hi Claire,
Actually, in WI it didn't work well at all. But I dismissed that, because nothing ever seems to work well in Wisconsin.
I grabbed the last 30 days worth of draws for four random state midday games and played around with it in those. Like I said, it did well, and that was without tranposing the last two digits. But, again, it usually produced six-seven separate digits out of the ten possible. So that meant in order to catch the hit, you'd have to wheel all those digits, and that would cost up to 30 bucks/draw online at a quarter a combination. And if you won, you'd make $7.50 profit--- and since it didn't manage to hit every day, if you lost just one day, that's 30 bucks in the red, and it would take hits the next four days to get you back to even.
I may look at P3 and P4 differently than a lot of folks. I do enjoy the challenge, but I am not playing to lose money. If I didn't show a profit every year I wouldn't keep playing. I consider it my "part time job", and probably spend way too much time on it (20-25 hrs/week) but simply put, if I wanted to spend money that would be lost, I can imagine a lot of other things I would spend it on rather than P3 and P4.
Therefore, what I am saying is that the method you are using is one that produces. However, unless there were some way to filter out a lot of the losing combos without filtering out the winning combo, it would not be a practical method for me, IMHO, because it would be very hard to maintain a profit from it.
There are a lot of methods out there that work. But the arithmetic of profit/loss makes most of them impractical. It's kind of like saying that I can guarantee anyone a straight hit every day if they would only play each of the 1,000 straight Pick 3 combinations each day. At twenty-five cents each online, that's a cost of $250.00 per day to play with a guarantee of a straight hit....which pays $225.00. Therefore, you hit straight every day, and lose $25.00 each day. So you see, "winning" isn't always "winning".
I keep the pencil sharp and play as few combos as possible. Like everyone, I miss hits by not playing combos I should have played. But when I lose, I don't lose much...and when I win, it more than makes up for the losses. I'm just not a person that would spend 50 bucks to try and make $25 on a $75 double hit. To me, that's too much risk, because the only guarantee in the daily games is that you will have more misses than hits.
Every method is one more tool in the tool chest. That's why I never dismiss any method without playing around with it to see how it does.
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Badger
A 7-digit wheel is only 84 combinations, an 8-digit wheel is 120 :) But I understand your point. You can win small amounts if it's worth risking a high amount of capital.
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Wisconsin United States
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Badger
A 7-digit wheel is only 84 combinations, an 8-digit wheel is 120 :) But I understand your point. You can win small amounts if it's worth risking a high amount of capital.
That's what I get from trying to use my memory instead of writing it out on paper.
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Badger
A 7-digit wheel is only 84 combinations, an 8-digit wheel is 120 :) But I understand your point. You can win small amounts if it's worth risking a high amount of capital.
That's what I get from trying to use my memory instead of writing it out on paper.
As I recall after applying +1212 you wheel the result, which equals 4 p3 combinations, and after applying -1212 and wheeling the result, which equals another 4 p3 combinations for a total of 8 combinations to play. Which makes this method very playable straight and boxed.