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Whew!
I've been watching this thread for several days, following the exchanges, but not posting. But trying to understand.
It appears the situation of knowing something others don't know, or have difficulties understanding must have an elevating, inflating influence on the ego. Or maybe it was there previously, but knowing or understanding gave it a chance to rear its ugly head.
I think it's possible to see who is actually contributing something to overall understanding of this, and who's just preening, posturing and lording it over those who don't understand to further inflate near-bursting ego.
Thanks for the help tenaj, on everything. As for the cheerleaders, hopefully sometime you'll contribute something positive. Everyone's working toward the same goal here. Understanding the process at this particular moment isn't a criterion that makes for a God, nor even a superior human being. It just means you caught on more quickly than some.
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Whew!
I've been watching this thread for several days, following the exchanges, but not posting. But trying to understand.
It appears the situation of knowing something others don't know, or have difficulties understanding must have an elevating, inflating influence on the ego. Or maybe it was there previously, but knowing or understanding gave it a chance to rear its ugly head.
I think it's possible to see who is actually contributing something to overall understanding of this, and who's just preening, posturing and lording it over those who don't understand to further inflate near-bursting ego.
Thanks for the help tenaj, on everything. As for the cheerleaders, hopefully sometime you'll contribute something positive. Everyone's working toward the same goal here. Understanding the process at this particular moment isn't a criterion that makes for a God, nor even a superior human being. It just means you caught on more quickly than some.
Jack
Hey there Rip Snorter, I know you just said that you have "been watching this thread for several days now & following the exchanges".
While observing have you taken the time to actually go through the 5 steps that I have listed for Tenaj's system?
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Whew!
I've been watching this thread for several days, following the exchanges, but not posting. But trying to understand.
It appears the situation of knowing something others don't know, or have difficulties understanding must have an elevating, inflating influence on the ego. Or maybe it was there previously, but knowing or understanding gave it a chance to rear its ugly head.
I think it's possible to see who is actually contributing something to overall understanding of this, and who's just preening, posturing and lording it over those who don't understand to further inflate near-bursting ego.
Thanks for the help tenaj, on everything. As for the cheerleaders, hopefully sometime you'll contribute something positive. Everyone's working toward the same goal here. Understanding the process at this particular moment isn't a criterion that makes for a God, nor even a superior human being. It just means you caught on more quickly than some.
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Thanks for the offer, Laverne. But the fact is, after reading your posts on this thread, I don't think asking a question of you is worth the effort.
Tenaj knows what she's talking about. I'll just stick with trying to understand what she says. Fact is, she's the varsity squad. Watching you post some more of the same as you've been posting won't help.
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Thanks for the offer, Laverne. But the fact is, after reading your posts on this thread, I don't think asking a question of you is worth the effort.
Tenaj knows what she's talking about. I'll just stick with trying to understand what she says. Fact is, she's the varsity squad. Watching you post some more of the same as you've been posting won't help.
But, of course, it isn't intended to help.
Good not knowing you in real life.
Jack
Rip, don't be so hard on Laverne. She is using my system and is hitting everyday and sometimes several times a day. I don't think it's ego, I think it's elation from making a profit and having a system that works. I don't post my hits anymore because some LP members said the same about me. Said that my head was so big that it couldn't get through the door of the bank. Even named me "Your Holiness."
Remember when you said that the hand written way that I keep records is antiquated. That method allowed me to see that SC and NM were getting the same numbers. You would have had to be pretty savvy to see the 445 coming to NM from the lottery bible, however my handwritten system made it clear.
So don't be too hard on us. I know I don't have eloquence of speech like you, but I tried to idiot proof my method so everybody can understand it.
angelm, you are correct in your findings. I would also suggest that you go back further in your hits and find lines that have lead & pointer #'s on them. Meaning more than one lead or pointer#. I am finding that this type of line will give you a greater chance of producing hits.
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Laverne, since I'm also working on New Mexico (like Rip Snorter) and you've offered to try and answer some further questions, here are mine that I've been asking for several days now:
1. What conclusions do you draw when the hit isn't found at all on the long list that came from Tenaj for the week? Not just that it wasn't on the short list I pulled from it, but not on the list at all. Does that meak it's just a fluke (that it wasn't there) or that the method is incomplete in some way? Should I be looking at other states, back-testing some other way, what? Or does that sometimes just happen?
2. When there are hits all week, does one re-work the numbers originally pulled from Tenaj's list for that week to include other lines, or do you just stick with the original list? Because if you are using the last ten or so draws looking at her list...wouldn't that change what you play as the hits go on?
3. If I come up with 47 numbers to play (and that was after eliminating duplicates---I didn't know whether to eliminate duplicates or not when I did it) is that a reasonable amount of numbers? Because I can't afford to PLAY that many numbers... so it seems one might pare this list down by using some other method? Is that what people are doing? Or are you playing all your numbers all week? Or some compromise I can't guess at?
4. I tried my best to follow what Tenaj posted on her second NM Blog entry...tried to duplicate her efforts to get the same results, to see how she drew her conclusions. I couldn't make the jumps logically (she said for example:"I liked.." such and such a number and "it gave me" (line of numbers).
Does this make sense to you as a description for teaching someone? (I know she's doing her best, don't get me wrong on that.) But this leads me to think that her experience with the method is giving her some kind of mental (psychic, possibly) edge as far as knowing what to look at. When you are working the numbers, do you operate on "hunches" or do you think it's strictly mechanical? Because it sounds mechanical in the instructions and looks like following hunches especially in her descriptions.
5. Any particular way to know a number is a pointer or a lead WITHOUT Tenaj just saying so? If it is on a certain position in the line, for example, does that mean it's a pointer? Sometimes it seems that pointers come last on the line.
I'm going to look at other states and work up lists from Tenaj's hits and pointers for the week. So far NM is still elusive to me. There was one hit from my long list for this week, out of three draws. But maybe that's typical? And the way to really profit is to play more than one state?
Thanks for your time, I appreciate it. I won't be posting these questions again.
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Laverne, since I'm also working on New Mexico (like Rip Snorter) and you've offered to try and answer some further questions, here are mine that I've been asking for several days now:
1. What conclusions do you draw when the hit isn't found at all on the long list that came from Tenaj for the week? Not just that it wasn't on the short list I pulled from it, but not on the list at all. Does that meak it's just a fluke (that it wasn't there) or that the method is incomplete in some way? Should I be looking at other states, back-testing some other way, what? Or does that sometimes just happen?
2. When there are hits all week, does one re-work the numbers originally pulled from Tenaj's list for that week to include other lines, or do you just stick with the original list? Because if you are using the last ten or so draws looking at her list...wouldn't that change what you play as the hits go on?
3. If I come up with 47 numbers to play (and that was after eliminating duplicates---I didn't know whether to eliminate duplicates or not when I did it) is that a reasonable amount of numbers? Because I can't afford to PLAY that many numbers... so it seems one might pare this list down by using some other method? Is that what people are doing? Or are you playing all your numbers all week? Or some compromise I can't guess at?
4. I tried my best to follow what Tenaj posted on her second NM Blog entry...tried to duplicate her efforts to get the same results, to see how she drew her conclusions. I couldn't make the jumps logically (she said for example:"I liked.." such and such a number and "it gave me" (line of numbers).
Does this make sense to you as a description for teaching someone? (I know she's doing her best, don't get me wrong on that.) But this leads me to think that her experience with the method is giving her some kind of mental (psychic, possibly) edge as far as knowing what to look at. When you are working the numbers, do you operate on "hunches" or do you think it's strictly mechanical? Because it sounds mechanical in the instructions and looks like following hunches especially in her descriptions.
5. Any particular way to know a number is a pointer or a lead WITHOUT Tenaj just saying so? If it is on a certain position in the line, for example, does that mean it's a pointer? Sometimes it seems that pointers come last on the line.
I'm going to look at other states and work up lists from Tenaj's hits and pointers for the week. So far NM is still elusive to me. There was one hit from my long list for this week, out of three draws. But maybe that's typical? And the way to really profit is to play more than one state?
Thanks for your time, I appreciate it. I won't be posting these questions again.
LuckierLady
5. Any particular way to know a number is a pointer or a lead WITHOUT Tenaj just saying so? If it is on a certain position in the line, for example, does that mean it's a pointer? Sometimes it seems that pointers come last on the line.
NO! The pointers and lead number and pointer are given out every friday in Tenaj's blog. There is no situation in the lottery bible where you can find a lead number and pointer other than the ones stated. The people who have the biggest problem with this system are the ones who try to obtain a lead number and pointer when it is already there. The lottery bible is just a tool used with the lead number and pointers. The lead number and pointers work well with other systems as well.
NO there is no way to know a number is a pointer or a lead WITHOUT tenaj just saying so. People who try to figure that out are the ones who miss the hits.
But this leads me to think that her experience with the method is giving her some kind of mental (psychic, possibly) edge as far as knowing what to look at. When you are working the numbers, do you operate on "hunches" or do you think it's strictly mechanical? Because it sounds mechanical in the instructions and looks like following hunches especially in her descriptions.
There's no psychic edge in knowing what to look for. The lead number and pointers are the edge. Just find a recent hit! And play the numbers on the line. It's that simple. Yes, I have hunches and I keep records, psychic NO. MY records showed me that NM and SC are getting the same numbers. I knew to play 445 and other hits in SC in NM.
Three hits for new mexico have been handed to you this week. I don't know why you can't understand my examples. You are thinking too much into this.
I'm sorry you can't make the jumps logically. What's hard about seeing if a number you want to play came with two different recent hits or if the number you want to play came with two different pointers, or if the number you want to play came with an old lead number or pointer. Those were the examples that I gave.
Does this make sense to you as a description for teaching someone? (I know she's doing her best, don't get me wrong on that.)
Those descriptions were my way of trying to idiot proof my examples so that everybody can understand it.
I don't know what else to do other than pulling NM hits from the lottery bible and handing them to you.
Tell me what you don't understand about these lines.
558-176-312-510-756 - recent hit 558 and 176 gave you 567
176-558-794-003-249 - different pointer gave 716 hit
053-671-817-015-251 - 4 recent hits on one line
167-426-662-204-440 - 716 hit with old lead numbers
860-501-747-167-303 - verification 716 hit
138-374-510-930-176 - verification 716 hit
I have other example in NM revisited.
What don't you understand. You just find the hits on the lines and see if they come up with other hits, pointers and lead numbers.
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Laverne, since I'm also working on New Mexico (like Rip Snorter) and you've offered to try and answer some further questions, here are mine that I've been asking for several days now:
1. What conclusions do you draw when the hit isn't found at all on the long list that came from Tenaj for the week? Not just that it wasn't on the short list I pulled from it, but not on the list at all. Does that meak it's just a fluke (that it wasn't there) or that the method is incomplete in some way? Should I be looking at other states, back-testing some other way, what? Or does that sometimes just happen?
2. When there are hits all week, does one re-work the numbers originally pulled from Tenaj's list for that week to include other lines, or do you just stick with the original list? Because if you are using the last ten or so draws looking at her list...wouldn't that change what you play as the hits go on?
3. If I come up with 47 numbers to play (and that was after eliminating duplicates---I didn't know whether to eliminate duplicates or not when I did it) is that a reasonable amount of numbers? Because I can't afford to PLAY that many numbers... so it seems one might pare this list down by using some other method? Is that what people are doing? Or are you playing all your numbers all week? Or some compromise I can't guess at?
4. I tried my best to follow what Tenaj posted on her second NM Blog entry...tried to duplicate her efforts to get the same results, to see how she drew her conclusions. I couldn't make the jumps logically (she said for example:"I liked.." such and such a number and "it gave me" (line of numbers).
Does this make sense to you as a description for teaching someone? (I know she's doing her best, don't get me wrong on that.) But this leads me to think that her experience with the method is giving her some kind of mental (psychic, possibly) edge as far as knowing what to look at. When you are working the numbers, do you operate on "hunches" or do you think it's strictly mechanical? Because it sounds mechanical in the instructions and looks like following hunches especially in her descriptions.
5. Any particular way to know a number is a pointer or a lead WITHOUT Tenaj just saying so? If it is on a certain position in the line, for example, does that mean it's a pointer? Sometimes it seems that pointers come last on the line.
I'm going to look at other states and work up lists from Tenaj's hits and pointers for the week. So far NM is still elusive to me. There was one hit from my long list for this week, out of three draws. But maybe that's typical? And the way to really profit is to play more than one state?
Thanks for your time, I appreciate it. I won't be posting these questions again.
Hello there luckierlady, I will answer your questions in the order to which you have listed them.
1. When you are speaking of the list, are you referring to the combination breakdown of the lead & pointer #'s found in Tenaj's blog?
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Okay fine, but I hope Laverne or someone else who is successful with this will enlighten me on my other questions:
1. What conclusions do you draw when the hit isn't found at all on the long list that came from Tenaj for the week? Not just that it wasn't on the short list I pulled from it, but not on the list at all. Does that meak it's just a fluke (that it wasn't there) or that the method is incomplete in some way? Should I be looking at other states, back-testing some other way, what? Or does that sometimes just happen?
2. When there are hits all week, does one re-work the numbers originally pulled from Tenaj's list for that week to include other lines, or do you just stick with the original list? Because if you are using the last ten or so draws looking at her list...wouldn't that change what you play as the hits go on?
3. If I come up with 47 numbers to play (and that was after eliminating duplicates---I didn't know whether to eliminate duplicates or not when I did it) is that a reasonable amount of numbers? Because I can't afford to PLAY that many numbers... so it seems one might pare this list down by using some other method? Is that what people are doing? Or are you playing all your numbers all week? Or some compromise I can't guess at?
Thanks again, Tenaj, and I'll go back to it. Some of it is clearer, now. I won't bother you again.