She went into a feeding frenzy with an UNSIGNED TICKET?
HRH Todd - You should facilitate a course.
Why did she feel she had to go public (Dog and Pony Show)? If she was that overwhlemed she should have taken a few weeks to confer with consultants (investment/tax/legal). It will prove a hell of a lot cheaper than the attorneys they have representing them now!
Plan to win and have a plan!!!
This story should be good for a few laughs as it plays out.I'm guessing that we'll see more of these folks on "How The Lottery Ruined My Life."
"Why did she feel she had to go public (Dog and Pony Show)?"
There's something really bizarre about that part of the story. There's no way the lottery had her doing the publicity thing before the ticket was claimed through the usual process, so why was she meeting lottery officials at the gas station with a ticket that wasn't signed, and therefore must not have been presented to lottery officials yet? I saw another article that makes it sound like she checked the numbers and then went to the gas station, perhaps to confirm the numbers ar have a clerk check the ticket. That makes it sound like she bumped into the lottery officials by chance, which might explain them telling her she should sign the ticket. That still leaves the question of why she would have the son sign it instead of her husband, or why she couldn't wait for a few minutes. There's also the question of why these lottery officials would tell her to sign the ticket and then stand around while her son signs his name on it.
At any rate, if her story is true there should be some lottery officials who can confirm most of her version.
Quote: Originally posted by Todd on May 6, 2012
A California woman has sued her son and accused him of making off with her $51 million Mega Millions lottery ticket, and then racking up expenses on houses, cars, and cash gifts.
The legal dispute between Etta May Urquhart, 76, and her son Ronnie Orender, who had been a truck driver, centers on who owns the ticket. She admits he signed it, but she is the one who lottery officials acknowledge bought the slip of paper.
In May 2011, Urquhart went to her local Mobil gas station in Bakersfield, about 100 miles north of Los Angeles, to buy a few lottery tickets with her retirement income, as was her habit, according to the lawsuit filed last week in California state court.
She later checked her Mega Millions ticket against the numbers in a newspaper, and saw she had won, the lawsuit said. Urquhart and her husband, Orender's stepfather, later went with Orender to the Mobil station where they met with lottery officials.
"Lottery officials requested the winning ticket be signed," the lawsuit said. "Etta May was overcome with emotions, she could barely talk and her body was shaking badly. Given her condition, Etta May asked Orender to sign the ticket on her behalf."
But as it turns out Orender "signed the winning ticket in his own name and not on behalf of Etta May," the lawsuit said.
Later, he suggested that due to the "magnitude of the situation, and the likely attention and pressures" from family, friends and strangers, Etta May should "tell others that she bought the ticket for Orender," the lawsuit said.
She agreed to the plan, according to the lawsuit, filed April 23 in Kern County. Orender ultimately opted to take a lump sum cash payment of $32.3 million, and planned to "take care of his parents and other family as well," a statement last year from Mega Millions said.
The statement also quoted Orender's stepfather, Bob Urquhart, joking that "we're going to spend it," in response to a question about plans for the money. Bob Urquhart is a co-plaintiff in the lawsuit filed by his wife.
Last year's Mega Millions statement about the winning ticket said, "It was actually Orender's mother, Etta Urquhart, who took his $2 and bought two Mega Millions tickets at Stuarts Oak Street Mobil in Bakersfield."
The lawsuit said Orender invested the winnings and receives monthly income, and that he spent $2.3 million to buy four houses in Bakersfield. He also bought 10 vehicles and made "cash gifts of several hundred thousands of dollars."
The lawsuit seeks compensatory damages of at least $32.3 million, the sum of the cash prize Orender claimed, in addition to punitive damages. Orender could not be reached for comment on Friday.
Russ Lopez, a spokesman for the California Lottery said he had no comment on the lawsuit.
She later checked her Mega Millions ticket against the numbers in a newspaper, and saw she had won, the lawsuit said.
Once Mrs. Urquhart saw that this was a winning ticket, why didn't Mrs. Urquhart and/or Mr. Urquhart, her husband sign the ticket?
Urquhart and her husband, Orender's stepfather, later went with Orender to the Mobil station where they met with lottery officials.
"Lottery officials requested the winning ticket be signed," the lawsuit said. "Etta May was overcome with emotions, she could barely talk and her body was shaking badly. Given her condition, Etta May asked Orender to sign the ticket on her behalf."
Why did the meeting take place at the Mobil station instead of the lottery offices? So not understanding that.
Why didn't Mrs. Urquhart tell her husband to sign the ticket? After all Mr. Urquhart (husband) was there with them and it would've made sense for the husband to sign the ticket since the wife was too emotional to sign it. Or better yet, wait until the wife had calmed down enough to sign the tickert herself.
But as it turns out Orender "signed the winning ticket in his own name and not on behalf of Etta May," the lawsuit said.
Later, he suggested that due to the "magnitude of the situation, and the likely attention and pressures" from family, friends and strangers, Etta May should "tell others that she bought the ticket for Orender," the lawsuit said.
She agreed to the plan, according to the lawsuit, filed April 23 in Kern County. Orender ultimately opted to take a lump sum cash payment of $32.3 million, and planned to "take care of his parents and other family as well," a statement last year from Mega Millions said.
Why did Mr. and Mrs. Urquhart agree to Mr. Orender's plan instead of correcting the mistake at the lottery office? Had the Urquharts spoke up once the mistake was discovered, the problem could have been corrected and things could've been back to normal by now.
Quote: Originally posted by PERDUE on May 6, 2012
She later checked her Mega Millions ticket against the numbers in a newspaper, and saw she had won, the lawsuit said.
Once Mrs. Urquhart saw that this was a winning ticket, why didn't Mrs. Urquhart and/or Mr. Urquhart, her husband sign the ticket?
Urquhart and her husband, Orender's stepfather, later went with Orender to the Mobil station where they met with lottery officials.
"Lottery officials requested the winning ticket be signed," the lawsuit said. "Etta May was overcome with emotions, she could barely talk and her body was shaking badly. Given her condition, Etta May asked Orender to sign the ticket on her behalf."
Why did the meeting take place at the Mobil station instead of the lottery offices? So not understanding that.
Why didn't Mrs. Urquhart tell her husband to sign the ticket? After all Mr. Urquhart (husband) was there with them and it would've made sense for the husband to sign the ticket since the wife was too emotional to sign it. Or better yet, wait until the wife had calmed down enough to sign the tickert herself.
But as it turns out Orender "signed the winning ticket in his own name and not on behalf of Etta May," the lawsuit said.
Later, he suggested that due to the "magnitude of the situation, and the likely attention and pressures" from family, friends and strangers, Etta May should "tell others that she bought the ticket for Orender," the lawsuit said.
She agreed to the plan, according to the lawsuit, filed April 23 in Kern County. Orender ultimately opted to take a lump sum cash payment of $32.3 million, and planned to "take care of his parents and other family as well," a statement last year from Mega Millions said.
Why did Mr. and Mrs. Urquhart agree to Mr. Orender's plan instead of correcting the mistake at the lottery office? Had the Urquharts spoke up once the mistake was discovered, the problem could have been corrected and things could've been back to normal by now.
What it sounds like, PERDUE, is that she had complete faith and trust in her son.
And then found out he's really a jerk.
Quote: Originally posted by rdgrnr on May 6, 2012
What it sounds like, PERDUE, is that she had complete faith and trust in her son.
And then found out he's really a jerk.
But Ridge, WHY didn't she ask her HUSBAND to sign the ticket?
He was RIGHT THERE!!
The husband could've signed her name and they would'nt be in this mess.
Why not wait until she calmed down and sign the ticket herself?
It's not like they only had 10 minutes left before the ticket expired?
She could've signed the ticket when she checked the numbers in the newspaper.
All she had to do is flip the ticket over and sign her name.
This woman doesn't strike me as someone who's short mentally.
Trust or no trust girlie girl wouldn't be in this mess if she had signed the ticket herself.
This story is like the Willis-Willis nightmare all over again.
Quote: Originally posted by rdgrnr on May 6, 2012
What it sounds like, PERDUE, is that she had complete faith and trust in her son.
And then found out he's really a jerk.
If she raised him, she should have known he was a jerk. People don't just all of a certain become a jerk.
Quote: Originally posted by RJOh on May 6, 2012
If she raised him, she should have known he was a jerk. People don't just all of a certain become a jerk.
That's true... but aren't there degrees of jerk-dom? My eldest child personifies ... everything I raised my kids NOT to be, but REALLY didn't show her true colors until she had some of what she considered "power", then she really went full-throttle... and no one expected what happened.
So what could have happened is that mom knew his proclivities, just not the degree to which he would succumb; or mom was just sadly blind to who/what her child was. In the latter case, YIKES! why oh WHY didn't she have her dh sign!!! (that has to be the question that she continually has going around in her brain. not to mention the question that her dh is continually asking her morning/noon and night!)
Quote: Originally posted by RJOh on May 6, 2012
If she raised him, she should have known he was a jerk. People don't just all of a certain become a jerk.
A Mother's love is blind. Happens all the time. She got her eyes opened now, that's for sure. However, I bet she is still making excuses for him.
As to why didn't she have her husband sign? It could be that she wanted her children to be the ones to inherit later, not his. In this world of extended families, there exists a conundrum for older remarrieds regarding inheritance for their children from earlier marriages. Maybe she does not get along with his kids from an earlier marriage and did not wish for them to benefit from her winnings.
Lessons learned: don't go to the place you bought the ticket to verify winnings. Verify yourself, then go to the lottery office after you have consulted an attorney, et al.
Quote: Originally posted by rdgrnr on May 6, 2012
What it sounds like, PERDUE, is that she had complete faith and trust in her son.
And then found out he's really a jerk.
Quote: Originally posted by VenomV12 on May 6, 2012
Who is WE? I did not realize that everyone here gave you authority to speak on their behalf as a collective. If so then I am impressed with your power and authority, you must truly be a great and powerful person.
If you have an issue with what I do then clearly you are one of the people that I am speaking of that would screw over the person who bought you a ticket, or perhaps their own mother.
I am not buying you anything so I am not so sure why you are so concerned about it anyway. It is my money and my business what I do with it and no one elses. I am sure if I buy anyone a ticket and they have to share millions of dollars, there will be no complaints on their end.
You stupid little gif below your comment showing fighting over a stick would not exist because of what I do. My signature is on it, the recipient's signature is on it, the lottery commission cuts two checks, end of story.
LOL - Venom - thanks for explaining your reasoning behind signing the ticket-gifts that you give. Quite frankly we (my small circle of associates) were quite puzzled and could not figure out any plausible potential reason behind it. While it's not something that I believe I would do... I also would not go bungee-jumping while I would/have gone spelunking. Different strokes for different folks.
Quote: Originally posted by Lucky SOB on May 6, 2012
if you cant trust family who can you trust
Have any of you guys seen the promos for Dallas?
"Blood is thicker than water but OIL is thicker than them both!"
Quote: Originally posted by VenomV12 on May 6, 2012
Who is WE? I did not realize that everyone here gave you authority to speak on their behalf as a collective. If so then I am impressed with your power and authority, you must truly be a great and powerful person.
If you have an issue with what I do then clearly you are one of the people that I am speaking of that would screw over the person who bought you a ticket, or perhaps their own mother.
I am not buying you anything so I am not so sure why you are so concerned about it anyway. It is my money and my business what I do with it and no one elses. I am sure if I buy anyone a ticket and they have to share millions of dollars, there will be no complaints on their end.
You stupid little gif below your comment showing fighting over a stick would not exist because of what I do. My signature is on it, the recipient's signature is on it, the lottery commission cuts two checks, end of story.
Who is WE? I think WE is pretty much all of us here who happened to agree that you had to be a real cheapskate to give somebody a gift like that, the last time you brought it up.
I at first said I'd tell you to keep it but somebody else had a better idea: They said they'd go buy a ticket with the same numbers and throw away the original one, LOL.
That would make for some real poetic justice if those numbers won. And there wouldn't be a thing you could do about it either. It was a gift and they could say they didn't like your gift and threw it away. I would love to be there when they told you just to see the look on your face, LOL.
Nobody likes a conniving cheapskate. And that is a real weasel-like move.
And here they are: Etta May Urquhart! Seems like a nice family but I'm also surprised they didn't seek counsel first. I will not make that mistake for fear of this type of screw up.
Quote: Originally posted by golfer1960 on May 7, 2012
And here they are: Etta May Urquhart! Seems like a nice family but I'm also surprised they didn't seek counsel first. I will not make that mistake for fear of this type of screw up.
I think the look on the old man's face as he looks at his step-son says a lot.
Quote: Originally posted by rdgrnr on May 7, 2012
I think the look on the old man's face as he looks at his step-son says a lot.
You're right Ridge, I didn't notice that before. The step dad is not smiling at all while looking at the step son. I hope this turns out right for this woman. It's a shame if the son is ripping her off. Greedy son of a ....
I've lived in Bakersfield the last 4 years and am not surprised. Most of the town is hillbilly USA except for a small part of it. They lived on the east side which is extremely poor so I'm not suprised the son is spending the money like crazy.
Quote: Originally posted by rdgrnr on May 7, 2012
I think the look on the old man's face as he looks at his step-son says a lot.
He's not grinning like the other two like he already knows how it's going to end up.
Quote: Originally posted by RJOh on May 7, 2012
He's not grinning like the other two like he already knows how it's going to end up.
He looks like he is mad as H3LL! I think he knew how it would end also. Look how the son looks. He is laughing like crazy! I guess so, his "ship" finally came in. Bet he didn't give them anything and the husband has probably chewed her backside off for being an idiot!
Scary thought here-wonder if he would have taken their lives if he wouldn't have gotten the money.
Quote: Originally posted by rdgrnr on May 6, 2012
Who is WE? I think WE is pretty much all of us here who happened to agree that you had to be a real cheapskate to give somebody a gift like that, the last time you brought it up.
I at first said I'd tell you to keep it but somebody else had a better idea: They said they'd go buy a ticket with the same numbers and throw away the original one, LOL.
That would make for some real poetic justice if those numbers won. And there wouldn't be a thing you could do about it either. It was a gift and they could say they didn't like your gift and threw it away. I would love to be there when they told you just to see the look on your face, LOL.
Nobody likes a conniving cheapskate. And that is a real weasel-like move.
I wouldn't throw away the original ticket...I'd burn it.That way there would be NO proof that it ever existed and the cheapskate wouldn't get a dime.Now THAT'S poetic justice!
Quote: Originally posted by larry3100 on May 6, 2012
Etta May was shaking badly and was overcome with emotions.Wow.Etta could have at least signed the back of that lottery ticket with a big " X ",witnessed by the lottery officials.
Maybe she should have a V-8 ??? or as a result of how this played out maybe she should have had a lobotomy !!! 
Quote: Originally posted by CDanaT on May 7, 2012
Maybe she should have a V-8 ??? or as a result of how this played out maybe she should have had a lobotomy !!!
I think you meant to suggest TWO VALLIUM
Quote: Originally posted by CowboysFan on May 7, 2012
I've lived in Bakersfield the last 4 years and am not surprised. Most of the town is hillbilly USA except for a small part of it. They lived on the east side which is extremely poor so I'm not suprised the son is spending the money like crazy.
Sounds like my kinda place.
Maybe you shouldn't have moved into a town with people you don't like.
Them are the Dust Bowl, Grapes of Wrath type people whose struggle is legendary.
I bet they're good people if you get to know them, unless years of California "government help" has taken it's toll.
I came here looking for something I couldn't find anywhere else
Hey, I'm not tryin' to be nobody I just want a chance to be myself
I've spent a thousand miles of thumbin'
Yes, I've worn blisters on my heels
Tryin' to find me something better
Here on the streets of Bakersfield
Hey, you don't know me but you don't like me
Say you careless how I feel
'Cause how many of you that sit and judge me
Ever walked the streets of Bakersfield?
Spent some time in San Francisco
I spent a night there in the can
They threw this drunk man in my jail cell
I took fifteen dollars from that man
Left him my watch and my old house key
Don't want folks thinkin' that I'd steal
Then I thanked him as he was leaving
And I headed out for Bakersfield
Hey, you don't know me but you don't like me
Say you careless how I feel
'Cause how many of you that sit and judge me
Ever walked the streets of Bakersfield?
~Buck Owens
Quote: Originally posted by Cletu$2 on May 7, 2012
I wouldn't throw away the original ticket...I'd burn it.That way there would be NO proof that it ever existed and the cheapskate wouldn't get a dime.Now THAT'S poetic justice!
The only downside to that is that you would be sharing the jackpot with an imaginary friend who over time woud never claim but half a jackpot is bettern than none assuming you were the only other person to be a part of the win!
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