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Do wheels work?

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Yes, they do indeed work.

Providing the selected lottery numbers are chosen winners from the lottery drawings.

I've always wondered how long does someone use a wheel with the same numbers in the wheel, and for how many drawings going forward in time?

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Depends which game.   I am trying to buy not as hardly as I want to.

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I went a bit too cheap the last weeks.

An example was playing 16 bank with 20-29 in two lines, 2021-04-03. The drawing paid me 3/6 * 2 or 2 * €6.25. I usually would have played that in five or more lines.

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Last time I played 1 key number with 11 wheel numbers in 5 lines. I won 5 lines with 3/6, 1 kn + 2 wn.

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In response to Speler

Well,.. SOME wheels work, while others DON'T...

Bluskov's wheels are the best, IMO. !!

I've seen proof, and have posted tickets in which Ga Lottery CLEARLY dodged my tickets created by his wheels.., in order to thwart paying outta their a_ _

            Just unbridled corruption..Blue Thinking

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In response to Stat$talker

Are those part of the LP wheels or do I find that somewhere else for Bluskov?

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In response to Unlucky-Kenny

Well, Bluskov's Wheel  books you can order online... then input them into Lotto Pro as 3rd party wheels..

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In response to Stat$talker

You sure do talk up this Lotto Pro into something with cool features - but I wonder if they would still sell it to me if I am not a Pro

LOL

Thank you.

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There really isn't a great deal of difference in wheels when it comes to what prize the wheel guarantees. You can use a Gail Howard wheel, Bluskov, Robert Serotic, or Todd's wheels here at Lottery Post and you will win the same prize if you get the amount of correct numbers required.  One has to decide what type of prize win you want and how much money you can afford to lose and not be sorry.  Personally, I like wheels for pick 5 lottery that guarantee a 4 out of 4 win that will cost me no more than $20. Since a lot of games cost $2 a ticket, that means I have to use a wheel like Todd's wheel for 7 numbers with 9 lines. Now as a player, one has to decide if he or she will select 7 numbers and ride with those numbers drawing after drawing, hoping that the jackpot will come one day while very rarely getting maybe 3 numbers right which should give you 2 winning tickets. To get an idea of what kind of "ride" this will be, go to a database for a pick 5 game, say Florida Fantasy 5, and pretend that you have chosen the numbers 1,2,3,4,5,6,7 to make it easy to see. Go through the database for 25 or 30 draws and see how many numbers you would have gotten right. You will see that the average is probably 1 at best.  My basic simple math theory for this is : divide the lotto game total numbers by the number of balls chosen, and as a general rule, one will get 1 number correct in your wheel on average if your wheel uses the amount of balls as that answer. In other words by example: Florida Fantasy 5 has 36 numbers/5 = 7.2. So one would get 1 number correct at most on average if your wheel uses only 7 numbers.  For Mega Millions, 70/5 = 14.  So a wheel using 14 numbers would average just 1 number correct. Now this is if one plays the same numbers in the wheel drawing after drawing.  Things improve if the player is tracking numbers, uses stats, charts, lottery programs to select the numbers, and selects new numbers each draw, or maybe just uses a way to draw random numbers to put in the wheel each draw. My personal opinion is the studious player with the charts, etc. will beat the random player with a higher percentage. The thing about wheels is that they guarantee the prize they are made for and will give several lower prizes also and will give some of these lower prizes if the guarantee is not met entirely. The 7 number wheel I described above gives 2 lines with 3 numbers right if I only get 3 numbers right instead of the 4 out of 4. And if I get the 4 out of 4, I also get 5 lines with 3 numbers right. And if I were fortunate to guess all 5 numbers right, I have about a 40% chance that I have a 5 out of 5.  Each of the wheels I mentioned above by Howard, Bluskov, Serotic,or Todd all have different combinations arranging the numbers, but still guarantee the basic prize called for. The only real difference in them would be if one were to guess all 5 numbers, one of them might have given you the jackpot combination over the other 3, had you been playing that one. But the whole thing at that point is "luck of the draw". The only wheel that guarantees the jackpot is a "full" wheel with every combination, and those get expensive fast.

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In response to Speler

It should be obvious that any wheel is only as good the entered numbers. Sometimes it's about using the wrong type of wheel too. The guarantees of abbreviated wheels are usually written as 3 if 5 of X where 3 is the minimum win guarantee you'll get if 5 of your numbers (X) are matched. I played a 13 line 3 if 5 of 15 number wheel, matched the five drawn numbers and got exactly what the wheel guaranteed, one 3 number match for a $3 loss. I had 13 chances to enter the 15 numbers into a correct order and won the jackpot.

There is a 25 line 2 if 5 of 39 numbers wheel that guarantees a two number match regardless which five numbers are drawn. And again it's all about the order the 39 numbers are entered. Wouldn't recommend using large line wheels at $2 a line unless you have money tree in your back yard.

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In response to lottobrain

At $2 a ticket, PB and MM have made the cost of most wheels way to much for the average player. A full 7 number wheel has 21 lines. Even using all 70 MM numbers at least once costs $28.

IMO, $1 a ticket 5/39 pick-5 type games might be the only worthwhile games where wheels can be used.

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21 lines shrunk to 10 lines. I like to play two wheels for one game.

1 2 3 4 6
1 2 3 5 6
1 2 3 6 7
1 2 4 5 7
1 3 4 5 6
1 3 4 5 7
1 4 5 6 7
2 3 4 5 7
2 4 5 6 7
3 4 5 6 7

I could play a pattern, like 2 or 3 even numbers.1-7 for even numbers and 8-14 for odd numbers.

1 4 6 10 11
1 6 7 9 14
2 3 9 12 13
4 5 8 10 13

I could play a key number.

1 2 3 4 5
1 6 7 8 9
1 10 11 12 13

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In response to L J1

4 games under 20 numbers is what I can typically get. They work otherwise. Just the betting. But they work. Find a low number like 12 or 9 numbers you're good. Normal is about 18 for me. And to get it to show in 4 as opposed to 14 is pretty much ideal. Profit wise, it's a bit of a wait week after week, but it can work. You can get something in the end, with maybe 1 week being not good.

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Somebody suggested to use sums. This one is sums based for 12 / 24 and finished with 7 if 12.

You might copy and paste one of those in predictions.


10 lines:
1 2 5 6 12 13 14 16 18 19 20 24
1 2 6 9 10 11 14 15 19 20 21 22
1 2 7 8 10 11 12 15 18 19 23 24
1 3 4 8 11 12 13 17 18 20 21 22
1 3 7 8 9 11 13 14 16 21 23 24
1 4 6 7 9 12 14 16 17 19 22 23
2 3 4 7 10 13 14 15 16 20 22 24
2 4 5 8 9 11 12 16 19 20 21 23
3 4 5 6 8 13 14 15 18 19 22 23
3 5 6 7 8 10 15 16 17 18 21 24

10 lines:
1 2 6 7 11 12 13 15 17 20 22 24
1 3 5 8 9 13 15 16 17 20 21 22
1 3 6 8 10 11 13 14 19 20 21 24
1 4 5 7 10 12 14 16 18 19 20 24
1 4 6 7 9 12 13 17 18 19 21 23
2 3 4 8 10 12 15 17 18 19 20 22
2 3 5 6 11 12 13 16 18 19 22 23
2 3 7 8 9 10 11 14 17 22 23 24
2 4 5 8 9 11 14 15 18 19 21 24
3 4 6 7 8 11 12 15 16 21 23 24

10 lines:
1 2 4 6 12 14 16 17 18 19 20 21
1 2 5 8 11 12 13 14 17 21 22 24
1 3 5 7 10 13 15 16 17 20 21 22
1 3 6 8 10 11 12 14 18 20 23 24
1 4 7 8 9 10 13 14 18 21 22 23
2 4 5 8 9 11 15 16 18 19 20 23
2 5 6 7 9 10 12 17 18 19 22 23
3 4 5 6 9 12 13 15 18 20 21 24
3 4 6 7 8 11 12 16 17 21 22 23
3 4 6 7 9 10 14 15 16 19 23 24

10 lines:
1 2 3 8 12 13 14 15 17 19 22 24
1 2 4 9 10 13 14 16 18 19 20 24
1 2 6 7 11 12 13 15 18 20 22 23
1 3 7 8 9 11 13 16 17 20 21 24
1 4 5 8 10 11 15 16 17 19 21 23
2 3 5 7 9 13 14 15 16 21 22 23
2 3 6 7 10 11 12 14 17 21 23 24
2 4 6 8 9 10 14 15 17 20 22 23
3 5 6 7 8 10 13 14 18 20 22 24
4 5 6 7 8 9 12 17 18 19 21 24

10 lines:
1 2 4 8 11 13 14 15 17 18 23 24
1 2 7 8 9 12 13 16 17 20 22 23
1 3 5 7 10 13 14 15 19 20 21 22
1 3 6 8 9 12 14 15 16 19 23 24
1 4 7 8 9 10 11 16 19 20 21 24
2 3 4 6 11 13 16 17 18 19 20 21
2 4 5 7 10 11 12 15 17 21 22 24
2 5 6 7 9 10 13 14 16 21 23 24
3 4 5 8 9 10 12 17 18 19 22 23
3 5 6 7 8 10 11 15 18 20 23 24

10 lines:
1 2 5 6 11 14 15 16 17 20 21 22
1 3 4 9 10 12 13 14 18 20 22 24
1 4 5 7 9 13 16 17 18 19 20 21
1 5 6 7 8 12 13 15 16 20 23 24
2 3 5 8 10 11 12 16 18 20 21 24
2 3 7 8 9 10 14 17 18 19 21 22
2 4 5 7 10 11 13 14 17 20 23 24
2 4 6 7 9 11 12 13 19 21 22 24
3 4 5 8 9 10 14 15 16 19 23 24
3 4 6 7 8 11 15 16 17 18 22 23

10 lines:
1 2 5 8 11 12 13 15 18 20 22 23
1 2 7 8 10 11 14 15 18 19 21 24
1 3 4 6 12 13 15 16 18 19 21 22
1 3 4 8 10 13 14 17 18 19 20 23
1 3 5 9 10 11 14 16 18 20 21 22
1 3 7 8 9 11 13 16 17 19 22 24
1 4 6 7 10 11 13 15 16 20 23 24
2 3 6 7 9 12 14 15 17 20 22 23
2 4 5 6 10 12 14 16 17 19 21 24
4 5 6 7 8 9 12 13 18 21 23 24

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