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Chasing random mathematically. Is there an underlying organization?Prev TopicNext Topic
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I was intrigued by this Idea when Greenfox first posted here.
In essence it comes down to a 4 Digit Number that represents the Right Digit of the Hit Counts of the following. The First Letter is the Game being Odd or Even. The Second Letter is for the Draw being Odd or Even.
OO
EO
OE
EE
OO= Odd Game Number and an Odd Number Draw
EO= Even Game Number and an Even Draw
OE= Odd Game Number and an Even Draw
EE= Even Game Number and an Even Draw
This produced a 4 Digit Number from 0000 to 9999 or 10,000 potential Options.
After watching the Videos and downloading the files he prepared, I needed to “Do it Myself” in order to Create a Templet that could do other Games by a simple Menu Change. I Focused on North Carolina Cash 5 and California Fantasy 5. To keep the File size as small as possible, I set the file up to do 1 Position at a time and then paste the Series and their historical Hits. Using North Carolina allowed me to check my results against those of Greenfox.
The main focus by Greenfox was the List of the 10,000 Options showing that in the 5005 Games so far Only 3000 of those numbers had occurred. He also found the same results with another Game. He was comparing an RNG Game with a Ball Hopper Game and finding the same result. The unanswered question was “Why was this happening?” Why were some of the Options showing multiple hits while most were not showing up at all.
My results appear to follow the Concept but My Counts are significantly different. The Tables below show the Series that have hit by Position and a summary of all Positions.
North Carolina (NC) Cash 5
P1
P2
P3
P4
P5
P (All)
Series with 1 or more hits
1871
1832
1848
1835
1835
2000
Next Odd Draw Series
6578
1320
5182
0330
5885
Next Even Draw Series
6479
1221
5083
0231
5786
California Fantasy 5
P1
P2
P3
P4
P5
P (All)
Series with 1 or more hits
1987
1989
1979
1982
1984
2000
Next Odd Draw Series
1318
3398
4784
1615
0120
Next Even Draw Series
0328
2308
3794
0625
9130
Instead of 3000 Options there appear to be only 2000 (at least so far). By Position the Options are approaching the 2000 Number. I can not explain this mathematically but my sense is that the basic Setup is driving these, not the Odd Even Numbers that are drawn.
The Table also show what the Next Potential Options are for the Coming Draw. I believe that the way the Series advances by Shifting between the Options is controlling the potential Options.
I added a Decimal Point to Each Optional Series. If the Draw is Odd it would have a .1 added, Even a .2. For example, the Next Series for North Carolina in Position 1 would be 6578.1 for an Odd Draw or 6479.2 for an Even Draw. I keep a running count of the number of times that a series hits. When that count is 1, the Series is hitting for the First Time.
North Carolina
P1 Series
H
Move
Series.OE
H
GOEDOE
H
6578
4
2
6578.1
2
21
1344
6479
3
4
6479.2
1
22
1158
Skip to Last 1st
4
Skip to Last 1st
4
Series
H
Move
Series.OE
H
GOEDOE
6478
2
3
6478.2
2
12
6468
5
2
6468.1
5
21
6368
2
1
6368.1
2
11
5368
1
2
5368.1
1
21
5268
1
3
5268.2
1
12
The above Chart show that the Last time a New Option was added to the List occurred 4 Games Back. This Chart also shows that the Even Option in Position 1 for the Next Game would hit for the First time. First Time hits become less common as the number of Games increases.
California
P1 Series
H
Move
Series.OE
H
GOEDOE
H
1318
5
1
1318.1
3
11
2580
0328
4
3
328.2
2
12
2251
Skip to Last 1st
68
Skip to Last 1st
68
Series
H
Move
Series.OE
H
GOEDOE
0318
4
2
0318.1
4
21
0218
7
1
0218.1
7
11
9218
7
4
9218.2
7
22
9217
8
1
9217.1
8
11
8217
8
4
8217.2
8
22
The California Chart show that the Last First time Hit occurred in Position 1 was 68 Games Back.
The Next thing to notice is the Series can happen on either an Odd Gam or an Even game. Notice again that the Next Series for North Carolina Position 1 is 6578 will hit for the 4th Time. 6578.1 will hit for the second Time. This tells us that a Series can hit on an Odd or Even Game.
In the End You must still Guess. That usually comes down to deciding which of the Hit Counts for the Series that you think will happen Next. So Far, I have focused on the Smaller Hit Count and tend to Select a Series that will hit the fewest number of times, especially one that will hit for the First Time. As Usual Random does not seam to Care.
What you are left with are 5 Guesses (1 for each Position) and the Hope of a good guess. All of this just to pick between 1 (Odd) and 2 (Even) by Position together with some Statistics that Random does not seem to recognize.
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Quote: Originally posted by AllenB on Jul 10, 2020
I was intrigued by this Idea when Greenfox first posted here.
In essence it comes down to a 4 Digit Number that represents the Right Digit of the Hit Counts of the following. The First Letter is the Game being Odd or Even. The Second Letter is for the Draw being Odd or Even.
OO
EO
OE
EE
OO= Odd Game Number and an Odd Number Draw
EO= Even Game Number and an Even Draw
OE= Odd Game Number and an Even Draw
EE= Even Game Number and an Even Draw
This produced a 4 Digit Number from 0000 to 9999 or 10,000 potential Options.
After watching the Videos and downloading the files he prepared, I needed to “Do it Myself” in order to Create a Templet that could do other Games by a simple Menu Change. I Focused on North Carolina Cash 5 and California Fantasy 5. To keep the File size as small as possible, I set the file up to do 1 Position at a time and then paste the Series and their historical Hits. Using North Carolina allowed me to check my results against those of Greenfox.
The main focus by Greenfox was the List of the 10,000 Options showing that in the 5005 Games so far Only 3000 of those numbers had occurred. He also found the same results with another Game. He was comparing an RNG Game with a Ball Hopper Game and finding the same result. The unanswered question was “Why was this happening?” Why were some of the Options showing multiple hits while most were not showing up at all.
My results appear to follow the Concept but My Counts are significantly different. The Tables below show the Series that have hit by Position and a summary of all Positions.
North Carolina (NC) Cash 5
P1
P2
P3
P4
P5
P (All)
Series with 1 or more hits
1871
1832
1848
1835
1835
2000
Next Odd Draw Series
6578
1320
5182
0330
5885
Next Even Draw Series
6479
1221
5083
0231
5786
California Fantasy 5
P1
P2
P3
P4
P5
P (All)
Series with 1 or more hits
1987
1989
1979
1982
1984
2000
Next Odd Draw Series
1318
3398
4784
1615
0120
Next Even Draw Series
0328
2308
3794
0625
9130
Instead of 3000 Options there appear to be only 2000 (at least so far). By Position the Options are approaching the 2000 Number. I can not explain this mathematically but my sense is that the basic Setup is driving these, not the Odd Even Numbers that are drawn.
The Table also show what the Next Potential Options are for the Coming Draw. I believe that the way the Series advances by Shifting between the Options is controlling the potential Options.
I added a Decimal Point to Each Optional Series. If the Draw is Odd it would have a .1 added, Even a .2. For example, the Next Series for North Carolina in Position 1 would be 6578.1 for an Odd Draw or 6479.2 for an Even Draw. I keep a running count of the number of times that a series hits. When that count is 1, the Series is hitting for the First Time.
North Carolina
P1 Series
H
Move
Series.OE
H
GOEDOE
H
6578
4
2
6578.1
2
21
1344
6479
3
4
6479.2
1
22
1158
Skip to Last 1st
4
Skip to Last 1st
4
Series
H
Move
Series.OE
H
GOEDOE
6478
2
3
6478.2
2
12
6468
5
2
6468.1
5
21
6368
2
1
6368.1
2
11
5368
1
2
5368.1
1
21
5268
1
3
5268.2
1
12
The above Chart show that the Last time a New Option was added to the List occurred 4 Games Back. This Chart also shows that the Even Option in Position 1 for the Next Game would hit for the First time. First Time hits become less common as the number of Games increases.
California
P1 Series
H
Move
Series.OE
H
GOEDOE
H
1318
5
1
1318.1
3
11
2580
0328
4
3
328.2
2
12
2251
Skip to Last 1st
68
Skip to Last 1st
68
Series
H
Move
Series.OE
H
GOEDOE
0318
4
2
0318.1
4
21
0218
7
1
0218.1
7
11
9218
7
4
9218.2
7
22
9217
8
1
9217.1
8
11
8217
8
4
8217.2
8
22
The California Chart show that the Last First time Hit occurred in Position 1 was 68 Games Back.
The Next thing to notice is the Series can happen on either an Odd Gam or an Even game. Notice again that the Next Series for North Carolina Position 1 is 6578 will hit for the 4th Time. 6578.1 will hit for the second Time. This tells us that a Series can hit on an Odd or Even Game.
In the End You must still Guess. That usually comes down to deciding which of the Hit Counts for the Series that you think will happen Next. So Far, I have focused on the Smaller Hit Count and tend to Select a Series that will hit the fewest number of times, especially one that will hit for the First Time. As Usual Random does not seam to Care.
What you are left with are 5 Guesses (1 for each Position) and the Hope of a good guess. All of this just to pick between 1 (Odd) and 2 (Even) by Position together with some Statistics that Random does not seem to recognize.
Hello AB,
There are some, quite a few actually that will only show up on odd draws and that will only show up on even draws. You will never see 2-2-2-2 on an odd draw with just one book of stats. 6 of my books actually you will never see that. Likewise, there are some of the counters that you will never see occur on the even counted draws.
The way this is set up, it does force the numbers to spread out and sets them on their own path but it is the numbers movements themselves that make it do what it does. If each draw was odd then even then odd then even again, your counters would simply go down as 1000, 1001, 2001, 2002, 3002, 3003 etc. If you set up to just do one game to the next it would be 10, 11, 20, 21, 30, 31 etc. It doesn't really show you much that way. But spreading it apart, you can see deeper. Kind of like silly putty picking up a newspaper section. It's kind of small, but if you pull it out a little, the letters get bigger and easier to read.
You're right though. The setup is part of it. It takes it and forces it to show me what I need to see. The setup is also only going to do what the numbers themselves do also, and what they are doing is not normal. What the count is doing should in no way be just 3,000 with all the data I've ran. Even on the Powerball and Mega Millions, it's the same thing. So there is something there that either should be, or maybe it's not there for a reason.
If you downloaded the full counters book I put up for download, look through it. You'll see there are many counts that do show in an even game for the first 6 sets and many in the odd games that do not show up in the odd. Same for the last 3 sets. There, the ones that happen in the odd games are what happens in the even games of the first 6 sets and vice-versa.
Sometimes, I do have to take a guess as to what direction of a movement I need to make. I don't fully understand why what is happening is is why though. But with this, if I know what movement to make, on just one or two of the trackers, that can narrow me down to either the winning number or 1 to 2 options with the winning number there to choose. And there are many times I know what they are going to do with this.
I'd say go into that full counters book and see how many times 2-2-2-2 showed up on an odd game for any movement. 1111-2222-3333-4444-5555-6666-7777-8888 and 9999 will not be on any odd game in the first 6 sets. Let's say that for game 393 the counters for a movement is on 3442. The next draw will be an even game so it will either be 3542 or 3443. It has no other choice in the matter. If 3443 has showed up more than 3542, by any significance, then there is a reason. And it does in what I've got. And it did so here in this instance. 3442 on game 393 went to 3443 on the next because the next movement was even. Now I'm starting to see the 4's showing up, and with another part of this that I look at, it makes sense. So for game 394 I would have most definitely played the next movement as even because I saw the 3443 coming. Now for game 395 it would have to be either 4443 if the next movement was odd, or 3453 if the next movement was even. Seeing a pattern coming is the difference in guessing and knowing. The next draw I would have definitely looked at the 4443 coming up, which would put me right on 4444 for game 396. Now I know that it doesn't make sense as to how I would have known that was coming up, but just look at the game number. 396. Sort those. 3-6-9.
What has the game number got to do with it? Another question that needs answered. I'll have to get into that later. Have to decide just how much I want to divulge. But there is a way to know and eliminate guessing. I do it every draw I work on to play. If I would allow myself to guess more in my mind, that would allow me to play 30 or so sets when I do play and the 5 of 5 would be there on average of about 5 times a month. I'm not really in it for the money though and I'm as stubborn as it gets, so it will be the way I have it in my mind or it will be no way. Plus I can't and won't come into a large/ish sum of money at the moment so it's all good.
If anyone has downloaded that counters book and want to see that data above it is Z through C and rows 394 to 397. It's the 5th number. Also on that game, the first number went even to make 5335. For the 3rd pick now. Those counters could have very well went to 4444 had that number been odd. BUT, go back to game 394 and look at the counters for the 3rd and 5th pick. Funny how they are reversed and the results coming up was so also.
I'll just post it here. No need in going back to look. (The 1's in between are just for separating for show here.) The sets for the 3rd and 5th was the same as far as content UNTIL it got to game 396. Displacement was different but the content was the same for those two sets.
Game G- G+ 0-9 1 #1O #1O #1E #1E 1 #2O #2O #2E #2E 1 #3O #3O #3E #3E 1 #4O #4O #4E #4E 1 #5O #5O #5E #5E 392 4 5 2 1 5 2 1 4 1 5 3 1 3 1 3 2 3 4 1 0 7 6 9 1 3 4 3 2 393 3 6 3 1 5 2 2 4 1 6 3 1 3 1 4 2 3 4 1 0 7 7 9 1 3 4 4 2 394 2 7 4 1 5 3 2 4 1 6 4 1 3 1 4 3 3 4 1 0 7 7 0 1 3 4 4 3 395 1 8 5 1 5 3 3 4 1 7 4 1 3 1 4 3 4 4 1 0 7 8 0 1 4 4 4 3 396 0 9 6 1 5 3 3 5 1 7 5 1 3 1 4 3 4 5 1 0 7 8 1 1 4 4 4 4 Here is the results for game 369 for viewing of this same tracking of odd/even.
Game G- G+ 0-9 1 #1O #1O #1E #1E 1 #2O #2O #2E #2E 1 #3O #3O #3E #3E 1 #4O #4O #4E #4E 1 #5O #5O #5E #5E 369 6 9 9 1 2 5 3 9 1 9 5 6 9 1 6 7 9 7 1 3 0 2 4 1 6 9 9 5 An awful lot of 6's and 9's coming into play here. Sometimes it isn't what you see, it's what you don't. I look at things probably different than anyone on this planet, so it may just be me and my way of thinking. But, when I look at the sets for say the 369 game, I don't just see the 2539, I see that it's going into game 370. That means a 7 is coming into play in the game count. With the 2539, I don't just see that set, I know that the 2 and 5 are of the odd numbers so that is 7 games, (just saying there, 2+5=7) and 3 and 9 for the even count. That is 12. 1+2=3. So with 7 (odd) 3 (even) that makes 10. I see that as a closing out of a sequence, mathematically the way numbers work, and transcending into it's next form. 3-6-9. After 9 is 10. Closure with the 9 (3+6+9=18=9), a new beginning with the 10. Game 370 is a 10 sum. 10 is the next level of the whole numbers, but it's also 1 which is the beginning of said. Like a circle. 3-6-9. Just one roundy-round chase.
My mind won't allow me to just look at things as what they appear. Never understood why. It has to look at everything involved in whatever, so I'm forced to check it all out and see what is there that isn't seen. Not that this is the end all be all, but it is something.
I gotta get. I gotta get back at it Allen and everyone. You know? I just thought. Talking about all this and thinking about your 5th wheel thread. That's where I first posted to you. Here I am talking about the 3-6-9 and things going round and round, and my grandmother bought a 5th wheel and that is what I am working on. Life is funny. And so weird sometimes.
Anyway, I gotsta get back at it.
Talk to you later.
Oh yeah. If you are keeping your data as below, you'll need to reverse the EO and the OE to put them as odd, odd, even, even. That may have something to do as to why you was initially getting the different results.
OO
EO
OE
EE
You can't steal second and keep your foot on FIRST!!!
“Strength does not come from winning. Your struggles develop your strengths.
When you go through hardships and decide not to surrender, that is strength”.-Arnold (Ahnald) Schwarzenegger-
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Quote: Originally posted by OhSoClose on Jul 2, 2020
Thanks, GF!
I'll do as you suggest and look back at other years to see if/when the year seems to trigger bursts of same number. One of the most successful predictors in the PA Pick 3 forum has posted clues to the system he uses to predict. He hasn't posted the entire system (and I certainly don't blame him for holding his cards close to the vest) but in what he has posted, he said the key is looking at the past 2 draws for a game and the current date of the draw.
I haven't stumbled on the formula to use when considering those values, but he claims to play daily and hit at least 4 times each week. He's posted enough winners head of the draws to prove his credibility, so I think he's on to something.
I've definitely seen the rhythm you're mentioning where the draws appear to fall into a pattern, stay there for awhile, and then switch back to what appears as chaos. What I've found most intriguing about your research is that you see the same patterns in mechanical draws as in RNG. I could understand it in RNG because of whatever algorithm they are using to pick numbers, but if mechanical follows the same pattern, then it's the numbers themselves flowing along a path. But why would the randomization of numbers care what year/month/day it is? That just sounds crazy, right? And yet...
I'm digging into past years of PA data to see if I can find years (and months/dates) that generate bursts of the same numbers. That might provide a clue as to what formula lies behind the curtain. Will post what I find...
Stay safe and healthy!
It looks like they are onto something for sure. That's good! Even if it was just a belief that gets their wins. I'd say it's more than that though if they are doing what you say. Where there's a will, there's a way.
With this, it's more of a pattern runs, then something happens and the pattern changes. It wants to run that for a spell, then change again. It's crazy when you take it all in. That many movements and getting that kind of results? I did not know at the time of starting this what exactly it did. I just got the idea in my head and went with it. Later on I saw how this made the movements jump out more noticeable to where I could see things that was happening. But it is the movements that make it do what it does. It's almost like you can see that a certain number was odd one day because it was supposed to be. Or that it was larger than the previous. I've not tried anything like it with just one game to the next yet to see the difference. That's odd with me, but for whatever reason, I've just stuck with doing it this way. I look at so many things in so many different directions when testing, but this has been constant throughout just this. I don't know, but like you say, I could see something like this with an RNG, but balls bouncing around in a hopper and just being pulled out of the air, it doesn't seem plausible.
The year, month, day? I don't exactly know. The way I look at things may and most likely is different than most do. I feel and believe there is a God above. If there is a God above, and everything is known, then would this be any different? That's the only way I can start to fathom it. I believe that the draws are like life. Like everything is on it's own time line as to what happens and when. I can't look back at much in my life and not see why something did or did not happen at a certain time. Wander what might have happened had I made this choice instead of that one. I can definitely see now why I have not won a jackpot before now. There is a reason is all I can say. It's just like it was not supposed to happen before, and to be honest, I'm so SO glad that it did not. I also believe that once something is brought into reality, it's then it starts it's time line and there is a certain path it will take on it's way through time. Take my conversations with AllenB on here. The first post of his I posted on was about a 5th wheel camper. Been conversing with him here and there since. Now here I am, with my grandmother recently purchasing one and I'm back working on them once again remodeling it for her and we are on another journey of conversations. I got out of the camper technician industry some time back and it's all just like it's supposed to be happening. So that's pretty much my theory on the date and the numbers. Maybe wrong. Maybe right, but if every step we are going to take is already known, then would this be any different? Other than that, I don't have a clue.
Just keep a digging. You'll find it. Just don't forget to pan through whatever you toss to the side before discarding it! JKing's post on here about the ants holds true. Never know what little tid-bit tossed could hold an answer to something.
Best of luck and God bless!
You can't steal second and keep your foot on FIRST!!!
“Strength does not come from winning. Your struggles develop your strengths.
When you go through hardships and decide not to surrender, that is strength”.-Arnold (Ahnald) Schwarzenegger-
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Thanks for the inspiration, GF. Haven't found the formula yet, but the deeper I dig, the more convinced I am that there is something there. I found much more evidence that the hot Pick 3 numbers appear to trend within a given year. That is, if a number gets hot during a year, it tends to stay hot that year and then go cool or cold for multiple years before getting hot again.
The trick in being careful with this stuff is that the human mind is built as an inference engine. We learn and grow by spotting patterns and connecting dots, but must be careful not to connect dots that aren't really there. I've been guilty of that in the past.
The things you do and post are amazing and your energy level and creativity appears to be off the charts! Well done and best wishes for continued success in everything. I'll keep digging and post any useful patterns I run across that might help the cause or at least be worth a moment's consideration.
Take care,
OSC
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Quote: Originally posted by Greenfox on Jul 10, 2020
Hello AB,
There are some, quite a few actually that will only show up on odd draws and that will only show up on even draws. You will never see 2-2-2-2 on an odd draw with just one book of stats. 6 of my books actually you will never see that. Likewise, there are some of the counters that you will never see occur on the even counted draws.
The way this is set up, it does force the numbers to spread out and sets them on their own path but it is the numbers movements themselves that make it do what it does. If each draw was odd then even then odd then even again, your counters would simply go down as 1000, 1001, 2001, 2002, 3002, 3003 etc. If you set up to just do one game to the next it would be 10, 11, 20, 21, 30, 31 etc. It doesn't really show you much that way. But spreading it apart, you can see deeper. Kind of like silly putty picking up a newspaper section. It's kind of small, but if you pull it out a little, the letters get bigger and easier to read.
You're right though. The setup is part of it. It takes it and forces it to show me what I need to see. The setup is also only going to do what the numbers themselves do also, and what they are doing is not normal. What the count is doing should in no way be just 3,000 with all the data I've ran. Even on the Powerball and Mega Millions, it's the same thing. So there is something there that either should be, or maybe it's not there for a reason.
If you downloaded the full counters book I put up for download, look through it. You'll see there are many counts that do show in an even game for the first 6 sets and many in the odd games that do not show up in the odd. Same for the last 3 sets. There, the ones that happen in the odd games are what happens in the even games of the first 6 sets and vice-versa.
Sometimes, I do have to take a guess as to what direction of a movement I need to make. I don't fully understand why what is happening is is why though. But with this, if I know what movement to make, on just one or two of the trackers, that can narrow me down to either the winning number or 1 to 2 options with the winning number there to choose. And there are many times I know what they are going to do with this.
I'd say go into that full counters book and see how many times 2-2-2-2 showed up on an odd game for any movement. 1111-2222-3333-4444-5555-6666-7777-8888 and 9999 will not be on any odd game in the first 6 sets. Let's say that for game 393 the counters for a movement is on 3442. The next draw will be an even game so it will either be 3542 or 3443. It has no other choice in the matter. If 3443 has showed up more than 3542, by any significance, then there is a reason. And it does in what I've got. And it did so here in this instance. 3442 on game 393 went to 3443 on the next because the next movement was even. Now I'm starting to see the 4's showing up, and with another part of this that I look at, it makes sense. So for game 394 I would have most definitely played the next movement as even because I saw the 3443 coming. Now for game 395 it would have to be either 4443 if the next movement was odd, or 3453 if the next movement was even. Seeing a pattern coming is the difference in guessing and knowing. The next draw I would have definitely looked at the 4443 coming up, which would put me right on 4444 for game 396. Now I know that it doesn't make sense as to how I would have known that was coming up, but just look at the game number. 396. Sort those. 3-6-9.
What has the game number got to do with it? Another question that needs answered. I'll have to get into that later. Have to decide just how much I want to divulge. But there is a way to know and eliminate guessing. I do it every draw I work on to play. If I would allow myself to guess more in my mind, that would allow me to play 30 or so sets when I do play and the 5 of 5 would be there on average of about 5 times a month. I'm not really in it for the money though and I'm as stubborn as it gets, so it will be the way I have it in my mind or it will be no way. Plus I can't and won't come into a large/ish sum of money at the moment so it's all good.
If anyone has downloaded that counters book and want to see that data above it is Z through C and rows 394 to 397. It's the 5th number. Also on that game, the first number went even to make 5335. For the 3rd pick now. Those counters could have very well went to 4444 had that number been odd. BUT, go back to game 394 and look at the counters for the 3rd and 5th pick. Funny how they are reversed and the results coming up was so also.
I'll just post it here. No need in going back to look. (The 1's in between are just for separating for show here.) The sets for the 3rd and 5th was the same as far as content UNTIL it got to game 396. Displacement was different but the content was the same for those two sets.
Game G- G+ 0-9 1 #1O #1O #1E #1E 1 #2O #2O #2E #2E 1 #3O #3O #3E #3E 1 #4O #4O #4E #4E 1 #5O #5O #5E #5E 392 4 5 2 1 5 2 1 4 1 5 3 1 3 1 3 2 3 4 1 0 7 6 9 1 3 4 3 2 393 3 6 3 1 5 2 2 4 1 6 3 1 3 1 4 2 3 4 1 0 7 7 9 1 3 4 4 2 394 2 7 4 1 5 3 2 4 1 6 4 1 3 1 4 3 3 4 1 0 7 7 0 1 3 4 4 3 395 1 8 5 1 5 3 3 4 1 7 4 1 3 1 4 3 4 4 1 0 7 8 0 1 4 4 4 3 396 0 9 6 1 5 3 3 5 1 7 5 1 3 1 4 3 4 5 1 0 7 8 1 1 4 4 4 4 Here is the results for game 369 for viewing of this same tracking of odd/even.
Game G- G+ 0-9 1 #1O #1O #1E #1E 1 #2O #2O #2E #2E 1 #3O #3O #3E #3E 1 #4O #4O #4E #4E 1 #5O #5O #5E #5E 369 6 9 9 1 2 5 3 9 1 9 5 6 9 1 6 7 9 7 1 3 0 2 4 1 6 9 9 5 An awful lot of 6's and 9's coming into play here. Sometimes it isn't what you see, it's what you don't. I look at things probably different than anyone on this planet, so it may just be me and my way of thinking. But, when I look at the sets for say the 369 game, I don't just see the 2539, I see that it's going into game 370. That means a 7 is coming into play in the game count. With the 2539, I don't just see that set, I know that the 2 and 5 are of the odd numbers so that is 7 games, (just saying there, 2+5=7) and 3 and 9 for the even count. That is 12. 1+2=3. So with 7 (odd) 3 (even) that makes 10. I see that as a closing out of a sequence, mathematically the way numbers work, and transcending into it's next form. 3-6-9. After 9 is 10. Closure with the 9 (3+6+9=18=9), a new beginning with the 10. Game 370 is a 10 sum. 10 is the next level of the whole numbers, but it's also 1 which is the beginning of said. Like a circle. 3-6-9. Just one roundy-round chase.
My mind won't allow me to just look at things as what they appear. Never understood why. It has to look at everything involved in whatever, so I'm forced to check it all out and see what is there that isn't seen. Not that this is the end all be all, but it is something.
I gotta get. I gotta get back at it Allen and everyone. You know? I just thought. Talking about all this and thinking about your 5th wheel thread. That's where I first posted to you. Here I am talking about the 3-6-9 and things going round and round, and my grandmother bought a 5th wheel and that is what I am working on. Life is funny. And so weird sometimes.
Anyway, I gotsta get back at it.
Talk to you later.
Oh yeah. If you are keeping your data as below, you'll need to reverse the EO and the OE to put them as odd, odd, even, even. That may have something to do as to why you was initially getting the different results.
OO
EO
OE
EE
Oh yeah. If you are keeping your data as below, you'll need to reverse the EO and the OE to put them as odd, odd, even, even. That may have something to do as to why you was initially getting the different results.
OO
EO
OE
EE
Below are My Results for Position 1. I have the same 4 Digits as You Show so I think My Order is Correct. Your Statement has me Scratching My Head.
Game
P1
OO
EO
OE
EE
O=1 E=2
OO
EO
OE
EE
396
10
1
105
103
93
95
2
5
3
3
5
395
8
1
105
103
93
94
1
5
3
3
4
394
1
1
105
103
92
94
2
5
3
2
4
393
2
1
105
102
92
94
1
5
2
2
4
392
5
1
105
102
91
94
2
5
2
1
4
370
13
2
102
96
83
89
2
2
6
3
9
369
6
2
102
95
83
89
1
2
5
3
9
An awful lot of 6's and 9's coming into play here. Sometimes it isn't what you see, it's what you don't. I look at things probably different than anyone on this planet, so it may just be me and my way of thinking. But, when I look at the sets for say the 369 game, I don't just see the 2539, I see that it's going into game 370. That means a 7 is coming into play in the game count. With the 2539, I don't just see that set, I know that the 2 and 5 are of the odd numbers so that is 7 games, (just saying there, 2+5=7) and 3 and 9 for the even count. That is 12. 1+2=3. So with 7 (odd) 3 (even) that makes 10. I see that as a closing out of a sequence, mathematically the way numbers work, and transcending into it's next form. 3-6-9. After 9 is 10. Closure with the 9 (3+6+9=18=9), a new beginning with the 10. Game 370 is a 10 sum. 10 is the next level of the whole numbers, but it's also 1 which is the beginning of said. Like a circle. 3-6-9. Just one roundy-round chase.
I don’t completely understand what you are saying here. It might be that additional knowledge that you are keeping to yourself. After reading your reply to OhSoClose, I got an inspiration when I tried to Go to Sleep last night. I just let the whole thing stew without trying to figure it out and then this just Pooped into my Head.
It starts by Summing the Numbers in the Series. Those Values range from 0 to 40. When there is no 9 in the Numbers in the Series the Next Sum Value will always be 1 more than the Last. If a 9 is present the Next Sum Value can be 1 more or 9 Less than the Last.
I next Convert the Sum Value into a Movement. A Move is a value of 1 to 4 OO=1, EE=2, OE=3 and EE=4.
Moves
1
2
3
4
OO
EO
OE
EE
The Chart Below shows the List of Sums and the Corresponding Move Position
Sum
Move
Sum
Move
Sum
Move
Sum
Move
0
4
11
3
21
1
31
3
1
1
12
4
22
2
32
4
2
2
13
1
23
3
33
1
3
3
14
2
24
4
34
2
4
4
15
3
25
1
35
3
5
1
16
4
26
2
36
4
6
2
17
1
27
3
37
1
7
3
18
2
28
4
38
2
8
4
19
3
29
1
39
3
9
1
20
4
30
2
40
4
10
2
The Data Below represent the Last 10 Draws for North Carolina Cash 5. If you Look to the Fare Right under “M” you will see the Move Value calculated from the Series Sum. Numbers with a Black Fill and White Text represent What I call a Direct Hit.
Friday, July 10, 2020
P1 North Carolina (NC) Cash 5
Next Sum
Next Game is
Even
All Hits
2
Moves
26
2
Back
0
July 9, 2020
October 27, 2006
Game#
1
2
3
4
Game
P1
OO
EO
OE
EE
O=1 E=2
OO
EO
OE
EE
Series Sum
M
5005
4
1336
1344
1167
1158
1
6
4
7
8
25
1
5004
11
1336
1344
1166
1158
2
6
4
6
8
24
4
5003
1
1336
1343
1166
1158
1
6
3
6
8
23
3
5002
5
1335
1343
1166
1158
2
5
3
6
8
22
2
5001
4
1335
1342
1166
1158
1
5
2
6
8
21
1
5000
3
1335
1342
1165
1158
2
5
2
5
8
20
4
4999
11
1335
1341
1165
1158
1
5
1
5
8
19
3
4998
9
1334
1341
1165
1158
2
4
1
5
8
18
2
4997
9
1334
1340
1165
1158
1
4
0
5
8
17
1
4996
1
1333
1340
1165
1158
2
3
0
5
8
16
4
Friday, July 10, 2020
P2 North Carolina (NC) Cash 5
Next Sum
Next Game is
Even
All Hits
2
Moves
6
2
Back
0
July 9, 2020
October 27, 2006
Game#
1
2
3
4
Game
P1
OO
EO
OE
EE
O=1 E=2
OO
EO
OE
EE
Series Sum
M
5005
7
1261
1322
1242
1180
1
1
2
2
0
5
1
5004
15
1260
1322
1242
1180
2
0
2
2
0
4
4
5003
4
1260
1321
1242
1180
1
0
1
2
0
3
3
5002
11
1260
1321
1241
1180
2
0
1
1
0
2
2
5001
9
1260
1320
1241
1180
1
0
0
1
0
1
1
5000
19
1259
1320
1241
1180
2
9
0
1
0
10
2
4999
19
1259
1319
1241
1180
1
9
9
1
0
19
3
4998
14
1258
1319
1241
1180
2
8
9
1
0
18
2
4997
35
1258
1319
1241
1179
1
8
9
1
9
27
3
4996
21
1257
1319
1241
1179
2
7
9
1
9
26
2
Friday, July 10, 2020
P3 North Carolina (NC) Cash 5
Next Sum
Next Game is
Even
All Hits
2
Moves
16
4
Back
0
July 9, 2020
October 27, 2006
Game#
1
2
3
4
Game
P1
OO
EO
OE
EE
O=1 E=2
OO
EO
OE
EE
Series Sum
M
5005
25
1235
1240
1268
1262
1
5
0
8
2
15
3
5004
17
1234
1240
1268
1262
2
4
0
8
2
14
2
5003
12
1234
1239
1268
1262
1
4
9
8
2
23
3
5002
19
1234
1239
1267
1262
2
4
9
7
2
22
2
5001
16
1234
1238
1267
1262
1
4
8
7
2
21
1
5000
23
1234
1238
1266
1262
2
4
8
6
2
20
4
4999
31
1234
1237
1266
1262
1
4
7
6
2
19
3
4998
26
1233
1237
1266
1262
2
3
7
6
2
18
2
4997
36
1233
1237
1266
1261
1
3
7
6
1
17
1
4996
23
1233
1237
1265
1261
2
3
7
5
1
16
4
Friday, July 10, 2020
P4 North Carolina (NC) Cash 5
Next Sum
Next Game is
Even
All Hits
2
Moves
6
2
Back
0
July 9, 2020
October 27, 2006
Game#
1
2
3
4
Game
P1
OO
EO
OE
EE
O=1 E=2
OO
EO
OE
EE
Series Sum
M
5005
33
1230
1232
1273
1270
1
0
2
3
0
5
1
5004
21
1229
1232
1273
1270
2
9
2
3
0
14
2
5003
38
1229
1231
1273
1270
1
9
1
3
0
13
1
5002
20
1229
1231
1272
1270
2
9
1
2
0
12
4
5001
18
1229
1231
1272
1269
1
9
1
2
9
21
1
5000
24
1229
1231
1271
1269
2
9
1
1
9
20
4
4999
32
1229
1231
1271
1268
1
9
1
1
8
19
3
4998
35
1229
1231
1270
1268
2
9
1
0
8
18
2
4997
40
1229
1230
1270
1268
1
9
0
0
8
17
1
4996
39
1229
1230
1269
1268
2
9
0
9
8
26
2
Friday, July 10, 2020
P5 North Carolina (NC) Cash 5
Next Sum
Next Game is
Even
All Hits
2
Moves
26
2
Back
0
July 9, 2020
October 27, 2006
Game#
1
2
3
4
Game
P1
OO
EO
OE
EE
O=1 E=2
OO
EO
OE
EE
Series Sum
M
5005
35
1335
1357
1168
1145
1
5
7
8
5
25
1
5004
24
1334
1357
1168
1145
2
4
7
8
5
24
4
5003
41
1334
1357
1168
1144
1
4
7
8
4
23
3
5002
27
1333
1357
1168
1144
2
3
7
8
4
22
2
5001
20
1333
1356
1168
1144
1
3
6
8
4
21
1
5000
30
1333
1356
1167
1144
2
3
6
7
4
20
4
4999
36
1333
1356
1167
1143
1
3
6
7
3
19
3
4998
40
1333
1356
1166
1143
2
3
6
6
3
18
2
4997
43
1333
1356
1166
1142
1
3
6
6
2
17
1
4996
42
1332
1356
1166
1142
2
2
6
6
2
16
4
There are Times when the Move Position of the Sum is not in Play for Game Line. When that happens, I look at the Move of the Previous Draw. I also expanded this to Look at the Previous 3 Draws. The Data Gets a bit large and will not display properly in the LP Window. I am working on that and when I figure out how to get it to fit the window, I will post it. I might even upload a picture later that show the whole thing.
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Quote: Originally posted by OhSoClose on Jul 11, 2020
Thanks for the inspiration, GF. Haven't found the formula yet, but the deeper I dig, the more convinced I am that there is something there. I found much more evidence that the hot Pick 3 numbers appear to trend within a given year. That is, if a number gets hot during a year, it tends to stay hot that year and then go cool or cold for multiple years before getting hot again.
The trick in being careful with this stuff is that the human mind is built as an inference engine. We learn and grow by spotting patterns and connecting dots, but must be careful not to connect dots that aren't really there. I've been guilty of that in the past.
The things you do and post are amazing and your energy level and creativity appears to be off the charts! Well done and best wishes for continued success in everything. I'll keep digging and post any useful patterns I run across that might help the cause or at least be worth a moment's consideration.
Take care,
OSC
You can do it for sure. We all can if we get our minds right.
Sounds like you're seeing some good stuff there. I'd see what numbers was hot and the year it was. See if there was any correlation and/or anomalies. Has to be a reason if you are seeing that kind of trend or any trend. Maybe see if those numbers seemed to fall on or around a certain day or month. Something like that.
You're spot on with the mind. I've talked myself out of more wins or correct choices than I can count. I just tie it in as wasn't time yet.
I get rid of the dots that aren't there. Testing will show you what is and what isn't. And I've done that for every step of building. If something hasn't happened in any games, it's gone. If it hasn't happened in a certain amount of games, it's gone. Like I've said, with the pick 5 draws, there are 4 main sets that happen the majority of the time. I do include some of the others that the winning numbers show up, but those 4 main spots I know where they are. I don't want to see what has happened, but the need to know what hasn't, is as much as the need to know what has. If it happened in one spot the majority of the time, why bother looking elsewhere.
I appreciate it, but I'm just basic and simple. I just do what comes to mind and go with it. Follow it and break it down to see where it goes. I'm just stubborn and don't care to put the work in. Which I have to because the of the lack of brain power. There is far superior abilities on here. I don't even come close to some of the people on here. I do appreciate it though!
Everything we share might lead another to the key, so it all helps. And I've found that explaining things here, or at least trying to lol, tend to show me what I need to see or do next. Don't want to put everything though.
Best of luck to you also!
You can't steal second and keep your foot on FIRST!!!
“Strength does not come from winning. Your struggles develop your strengths.
When you go through hardships and decide not to surrender, that is strength”.-Arnold (Ahnald) Schwarzenegger-
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I ran 100 Games for the Following Games. Not very impressive results. It will come down to Looking at the Black and White Pattern that seems to often come in consecutive hits of around 3 or 4 Games, Followed by misses that have the same Pattern. Baby Steps!
100 CA NC TX OH P1 45 45 40 55 P2 56 47 49 49 P3 40 45 54 50 P4 50 55 65 49 P5 57 55 43 52 -
Didn't mean to confuse you there AB.
I see now that you have it the same. I just got confused by the way you showed it here:
"OO= Odd Game Number and an Odd Number Draw
EO= Even Game Number and an Even Draw
OE= Odd Game Number and an Even Draw
EE= Even Game Number and an Even Draw"
Your draws do match up to mine, so you've got it correct. As far as the way I have it. Anyway, anyone wants to do it though is their choice.
The part about the 369 game and 370 is the key to unlocking this. I believe. I follow it like it's a path and a certain thing will happen at a certain time. That it runs in cycles. Each number separate, but together in the same sense. Something along the lines of one number is chosen with all the movements building that choice, the next is chosen seconds later and it's chosen because it's movements is on the same as the first, but the timing of it makes it a little different. But they are all intertwined into one conclusion. So the movements will be somewhat similar for each but something different to set them apart.
Let me try to explain it this way. I'm looking at it like DNA. But on a path and cycles.
The games are more dominant odd on an even game for pick one. Then more odd on an odd game. Then you have the numbers that was even on an odd game followed by the even on the even games.
You move into the second pick and it moves into stays the same as the 1st picks did.
Now you get into the 3rd pick and it moves into more dominant even on an even game followed by even on an even game. Then the odd on even ending with odd on odd games.
4th pick is the same as the 3rd.
Now with the 5th pick, it has moved back to the beginning's results. Closing it out in a way. That's the results up to game 5,006.
Odd has been the most dominant number for the 1st pick since game 139 but the odd on odd and odd on even games have switched back and forth. Same for the even count.
The same for the 2nd pick except is has been dominant since game 803 with the swapping of pick 1.
3rd pick has been dominant even since game 155 with the swapping like picks 1 and 2.
4th has been dominant even since game 563 with the same swapping.
5th pick has been dominant odd since game 17 with the same swapping.
By dominant I mean that it has been more times odd since the game mentioned or even and it has not changed since.
By swapping I mean that either the odd has happened more on the odd games than the even and certain times that will swap around. Same for the even, but the dominant one has not changed at all. With this being the more simple of the movements they make, it mostly stays like I've explained.
Once you get into the deeper movements, THEN you get the swapping of dominant more. It's crazy really, but that's what it does.
It's as if they started off trying to figure out what direction to go, figured it out and stuck with it almost.
For the numbers smaller or larger than the previous, it gets a little different. 1st through 3rd picks was near identical in movement as far as a dominant movement.
1st pick as dominant since game 443, but it was mostly since game 407. The next number being larger tied the number being smaller a couple times there in that mix, but never passed the dominant smaller number.
2nd pick was dominant smaller since game 2,755 but it was back and forth up until then with it being one or the other mostly for stretches. Since 2,755 though it settled on being smaller than the previous.
3rd pick was dominant larger since game 3,269. So it's moved up higher before settling in. Before that it was stretches of one then the other.
4th pick now. 4th was a little different. 4th was dominant smaller from games 335 to with the larger catching it a few times up until game 4,260 before passing it once. It only tied it at game 4,038 so that's mostly dominant a lot of games. The difference here is the matrix change. From the time of that first matrix change it took 702 draws before it being a larger number than the previous took over as dominant. 702 games exactly. That's a sum of 9.
5th pick was dominant larger since game 67 and has not changed at all since.
I've seen lots of things with this that should not be. It just should not be possible. Like the 1st and 5th pick. It is fact that it takes less options for the 1st and 5th pick. 1st and 5th pick shows here in two movements that it's had no trouble finding it's path and sticking with it. 2nd pick seems to want a little more before settling in and needs a few more options than the 1st. 3 need even more games to make it's mind up and needs the most options. 4th was very similar to the 2nd, but the matrix change made some changes in it's movement of smaller or larger. Matrix change had no effect on odd/even for the 4th pick. Why? The options did not change in that category. Only the size options did.
That's a little off track from what Allen and I was getting into here, but that's how the numbers play out. If you just counted odd/even one game to the next, you'd get the same results. Whatever is dominant here, would be there also. It wouldn't change it. This just lays it all out so you can see deeper into it.
Back to AllenB's.
I've recently gotten it in my head about how you and some others would use a certain number for a movement to use to track with, so this will make more sense to me now and especially since I know what is going on with these. I REALLY like that idea and it really does help. Just for anyone that does not do anything like that. Making your patterns or happenings a specific "whatever" one wanted to make them as is much easier than looking for E-E-O-E-E. I'll still have to digest what you're doing here to these to make sure. I may have to program it myself to see the results.
You can't steal second and keep your foot on FIRST!!!
“Strength does not come from winning. Your struggles develop your strengths.
When you go through hardships and decide not to surrender, that is strength”.-Arnold (Ahnald) Schwarzenegger-
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Quote: Originally posted by AllenB on Jul 11, 2020
I ran 100 Games for the Following Games. Not very impressive results. It will come down to Looking at the Black and White Pattern that seems to often come in consecutive hits of around 3 or 4 Games, Followed by misses that have the same Pattern. Baby Steps!
100 CA NC TX OH P1 45 45 40 55 P2 56 47 49 49 P3 40 45 54 50 P4 50 55 65 49 P5 57 55 43 52 Is this the same patterns coming about per movement or what Allen? I see 4 different states and 5 sets for each and am just guessing that is what it is.
Baby steps yes. LOL It's been many years I've been working on this and it's been that the whole way.
We will get it though. Gonna look more at what you've been doing to these to get it in my head correctly, then go from there.
The main thing about these is when using it as a whole. With tracking all the movements that I'm using, it really stands out more and becomes more useful. Finding the start and end of each cycle is what needs to happen. Understanding why, will make the difference. It will come when it's supposed to.
Like you, I get an idea sometimes and have to get the whole picture of it in my head before proceeding. Sometimes I just wake up and it's right there on my brain. It depends on the timing I guess.
You can't steal second and keep your foot on FIRST!!!
“Strength does not come from winning. Your struggles develop your strengths.
When you go through hardships and decide not to surrender, that is strength”.-Arnold (Ahnald) Schwarzenegger-
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Quote: Originally posted by Greenfox on Jul 11, 2020
Is this the same patterns coming about per movement or what Allen? I see 4 different states and 5 sets for each and am just guessing that is what it is.
Baby steps yes. LOL It's been many years I've been working on this and it's been that the whole way.
We will get it though. Gonna look more at what you've been doing to these to get it in my head correctly, then go from there.
The main thing about these is when using it as a whole. With tracking all the movements that I'm using, it really stands out more and becomes more useful. Finding the start and end of each cycle is what needs to happen. Understanding why, will make the difference. It will come when it's supposed to.
Like you, I get an idea sometimes and have to get the whole picture of it in my head before proceeding. Sometimes I just wake up and it's right there on my brain. It depends on the timing I guess.
Yes, it is the same process as I Posted Earlier.
I would still like to clear up you comment about changing the Order of the Moves.
Thanks
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Quote: Originally posted by AllenB on Jul 11, 2020
Yes, it is the same process as I Posted Earlier.
I would still like to clear up you comment about changing the Order of the Moves.
Thanks
You have the order correct. I was reading it one way and seeing it as you wrote it, but in your findings, the order is as it should be.
You have the order correct as it is on mine exactly.
You can't steal second and keep your foot on FIRST!!!
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Quote: Originally posted by AllenB on Jul 11, 2020
Yes, it is the same process as I Posted Earlier.
I would still like to clear up you comment about changing the Order of the Moves.
Thanks
No need to comment. I did not see you earlier Post. I will go thru it now.