Min, Max History


Is there a minimum or maximum amount of history one should use when doing your calculations for the different lottery games P2,P3,P4,P5,P6, or even the Keno games 70 & 80 numbers?
Does it depend on the how many numbers are drawn for each of the games?
Is there a formula one could use for each of the different games?
Or is it personal preference?




hello, Gwoof, you can use the cycles in each lottery as a reference
the cycle is when, from the 1st draw on the list, count until the last number is drawn, eg if on a 6/49, the complete cycle took 37 draws until all the numbers happened at least once then
close to this is the number of draws to see your question, each lottery has its cycles

cottoneyedjoe's avatar - cuonvFT
In response to Gwoof

I'll echo what a lot of people here say, which is that you shouldn't use more than 3 years worth of data for a game using physical balls because lotteries replace their sets every few years or so. Some lotteries do it as often as every 2 years due to wear and tear on the balls as they bounce around in the machine. Data from a current ball set shouldn't be mixed with data from a retired ball set. 

If the lottery uses a PRNG, there's no telling how often they repair, replace, or run diagnostics on their computers. Whether they use a hardware-based PRNG or a program running an algorithm or some combination of both (California uses a combination), I personally don't go past 3 years. Hardware-based PRNGs, such as the ones that measure types of noise in the environment, are preferred by some lotteries, but they do wear out and become unreliable over time.

You can always contact your lottery and ask how they handle these issues. That's something they should be transparent about. Good luck.

In response to cottoneyedjoe

 I believe all the games here in Canada are computer drawn.
 As I understand from what your saying is I should use all the history as long as it is not over 3 years.
 dr san on the other hand says I should play the amount of history in the game your playing when all the numbers have hit at least once. Does that mean I'm looking for the number with the longest skip in the game?
That would mean the amount of history to play would change after every draw, would it not?
The reason I ask this question is I've noticed if you change the amount of history in some of the programs produced here you get different results. So I was wondering if there was an optimum amount of history one should use or is there a formula one could use?
Or is it just trial and error for your game?
 In P4 games take all possible combinations randomly scramble them and use that as your history back-up since all combinations have ever been played?
Or use the amount of history of longest repeat for each of the digits in the P4 game?


cottoneyedjoe's avatar - cuonvFT
In response to Gwoof

Gwoof, I'll be honest. The only value in studying past drawing data is to check if the drawings are random. If you've satisfied yourself that the drawings are random (no obvious patterns nor biases toward certain numbers being drawn over others) then it doesn't matter how much drawing data you import into a "prediction" program because random processes are unpredictable.

You said, "The reason I ask this question is I've noticed if you change the amount of history in some of the programs produced here you get different results." This is because lottery prediction software doesn't work, and the numbers these programs output are as good as quick picks. The only thing that will increase your chances of winning is buying more tickets. What most lottery prediction programs do is output a bunch of numbers for you to play, which tricks you into thinking the programs perform better than random guessing. But it's time for you to be honest with yourself too: If any of the lotto programs you use could actually predict numbers, would you still be on this forum?

As for "dr san," he says a lot of things, most of it nonsense. But you are free to follow his advice and I wish you the best of luck.


hello, you have to think of the number of previous drawings, as a seed for the next one
a tree takes time to bear fruit, taking it to the pattern of lotteries there. there is a certain number of draws that can supply the seed for the next one, that is, its cycle, you should not do with many
  draws, you do not need to observe the cycle in each position, in general and in the position with position

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