Neural Networks and the applicability to lotteries has been discussed many times here on Lottery Post.
Here some comments on NN here on Lottery Post of the past years:
"You are quite correct in your comments that neural networks will not predict the winning numbers everytime. They are however very powerful prediction tools that when used with other ai toolsets can reduce your odds and give you more winnings than other methods."
"If the lottery is not random enough they might be able to find a pattern if not, it's just like guessing"
"Most of the work of neural networks is going into pattern recognition and simulations. Neural networks are trained rather than programmed, and potentially will have the most adaptability of any expert system, but like humans they can make mistakes."
"Neural networks are particularly adept at solving problems that cannot be expressed as a series of steps. Neural networks are particularly useful for recognizing patterns, classification into groups, series prediction and data mining."
"There is no such thing as AI or NI when it comes to lotteries, anyone saying something different I challenge them to prove it"
"AI and NN along with many other methods of prediction can be applied to lotteries, just don't expect
them to work. I have written at least a dozen of each and the lottery is just too random. Trying to
predict the lottery is a waste of time IMHO but that does not mean that we can't play smarter. Study
the data and then make your best guess. Forget the odds, don't apply to much math and trust your
gut instincts. AI and NN can be used to make forecast for some events like sales, stocks, profits etc...
but these events are not based on random. Math can be used to test the randomness of a game but
it will never be able to predict random"
The last couple of months I did a research on this subject and wrote a simple program (freeware) using a neural network generating lottery picks (predictions?) using the history draw results of a lottery game (via import feature in the tool).
So now you have the opportunity testing a Neural Network algorithm for your lottery game(s)
Information and instructions can be found in the tool.
You can download tool here: http://intelbet.somee.com/tools/nnlp.rar (zipped file) or http:/intelbet.somee.com/tools/nnlp.exe (exe file)
Some screen shots (From Windows 10):
Note: I'm not asserting you can predict the/some winning numbers for you lottery game with this tool.
About the tool:
- Obusfacted with Confuserex
- No installation required, just put the executable somewhere
- No changes are made to your registry
Good luck!
tokecap,
What does the error message say?
System Requirements for the tool
With the following command line you can check which .NET Framework versions are installed on your computer:
dir %WINDIR%\Microsoft.Net\Framework\v*
Quote: Originally posted by stoopendaal on Aug 10, 2015
tokecap,
What does the error message say?
System Requirements for the tool
With the following command line you can check which .NET Framework versions are installed on your computer:
dir %WINDIR%\Microsoft.Net\Framework\v*
Link does not work.
Hi CARBOB,
I'm not able to create a valid downloadlink here to the tool; http://lotterypost.com is automatically put in front of my download link when creating one...
Copy one of these links in your browser's address bar:
http:/intelbet.somee.com/Tools/NNLP.rar
http:/intelbet.somee.com/Tools/NNLP.exe
Quote: Originally posted by stoopendaal on Aug 10, 2015
Hi CARBOB,
I'm not able to create a valid downloadlink here to the tool; http://lotterypost.com is automatically put in front of my download link when creating one...
Copy one of these links in your browser's address bar:
http:/intelbet.somee.com/Tools/NNLP.rar
http:/intelbet.somee.com/Tools/NNLP.exe
Got it, thanks. Nice job.
Hi,
Both Bitdefender and Mcafee detect that these programs contain a virus.
Spot9
Quote: Originally posted by Spot9 on Aug 10, 2015
Hi,
Both Bitdefender and Mcafee detect that these programs contain a virus.
Spot9
I have Windows Defender and it never identified a virus.
Quote: Originally posted by Spot9 on Aug 10, 2015
Hi,
Both Bitdefender and Mcafee detect that these programs contain a virus.
Spot9
I have McAfee too and it says it contains virus and won't even let me override it. Whatever it is, don't download it unless you want Your laptop to crash! Stoopendaal you can do better than this! Thanks!
The application has been obuscated (its content is scrambled and compressed) with the obfuscator tool 'ConfuserEx'.
It's a known issue some virus scanners can give some false positives for applications obfuscated with this tool:
https://github.com/yck1509/ConfuserEx/issues/17
https://github.com/yck1509/ConfuserEx/issues/180
I'll try to fix this.
I created a new version (1.1) of the application (also obfuscated now without the compressing packer option).
http:/intelbet.somee.com/Tools/NNLP.rar
http:/intelbet.somee.com/Tools/NNLP.exe
I tested this version of the application with different virus scanners and one virus scanner (of the 57 virus scanners) (Qihoo-360) found a 'virus'.
McAfee, Symantect etc didn't detect a ' virus' in the application.
You can do the online virus scan here: https://www.virustotal.com
Thanks. I'll check it out.
Any specially recommended settings for pick 5, 6 and 7 and keno?
Getting a caution from Windows 10 about running the executable. May drop back to Win7 and see what happens. Don't want to put it in a new installation of Windows 10 until I see what it is and what it does.
Quote: Originally posted by stoopendaal on Aug 11, 2015
I created a new version (1.1) of the application (also obfuscated now without the compressing packer option).
http:/intelbet.somee.com/Tools/NNLP.rar
http:/intelbet.somee.com/Tools/NNLP.exe
I tested this version of the application with different virus scanners and one virus scanner (of the 57 virus scanners) (Qihoo-360) found a 'virus'.
McAfee, Symantect etc didn't detect a ' virus' in the application.
You can do the online virus scan here: https://www.virustotal.com
OK, now it is working! Thanks stoopendaal! I read the intro and it is confusing, so here is a couple of questions for you:
1- Can this software be saved on the desktop? If so where is the "save as" button?
2- How can we use this software to win the BIG MM and PB jackpots? And more importantly, how long do I have to wait before I win the huge jackpots?
3- When you "start the training" it goes on a loop forever unless you stop it? What are the total error, average error, etc... and how can I use this information to win the afore mentioned jackpots?
That is all the questions I have for now, so thanks for your understanding and answering the questions in advance!
I'm quite sure the numbers in the import or paste file have to be in numerical order
GW
Good evening,
My best settings so far with
http://gofile.me/4DoES/rYhUIKyYk
I play 6x4 draws = 24 Euros
Often 3/4 =5 euros or 4/4 =50 box
The use of the Markov do not give enough good results here.
Quote: Originally posted by Gwoof on Apr 7, 2020
I'm quite sure the numbers in the import or paste file have to be in numerical order
GW
Yes, I did in numerical order but it's still not working, why?
Maybe, the problem comes from my Excel?
Quote: Originally posted by jlg69 on Apr 7, 2020
Good evening,
My best settings so far with
http://gofile.me/4DoES/rYhUIKyYk
I play 6x4 draws = 24 Euros
Often 3/4 =5 euros or 4/4 =50 box
The use of the Markov do not give enough good results here.
I got it, thanks a lots!!!
Also, I want to use the same program with you to re-produce your result in my last post.
How can you change the story's order in your Keno? Is it still by using Excel? or others?
Hi,
HERE In France you get the CSV file into a zip
I use any openoffice calc or excel to import
it's already in date order with the latest on top
I get rid of the unwanted columns
Then only copy past from the spreadsheet direct to the soft.
Tell me me if that suit your own lottery/
Hi, Jlg69:
Yes, my NY Keno's order with the latest on the top too.
But the MKL needs to place the order with the latest on the bottom.
So I have to change it by using Excel.
Then, it generated the problem which I have said in the above posts.
I'm not sure what's my wrong in the operation of changing order.
Sorry I donot use the KV
For an other easy way use Excel to inverse the Columns
Keep only the numbers you need
Add a Column to the left of then In this column number each line from 1 on top to ......end
Then choose all this column and ask excel to inverse (it will ask you if you want to enlarge the selection =say yes) it's in data => AZ or ZA
Quote: Originally posted by jlg69 on Apr 7, 2020
Sorry I donot use the KV
For an other easy way use Excel to inverse the Columns
Keep only the numbers you need
Add a Column to the left of then In this column number each line from 1 on top to ......end
Then choose all this column and ask excel to inverse (it will ask you if you want to enlarge the selection =say yes) it's in data => AZ or ZA
Yes, I did the same thing to change the order by using Excel.
Quote: Originally posted by lottoburg on Apr 7, 2020
Hi, Miha69:
I want to re-produce your result by using RNG_MP 1.0 now.
"I count 10 cop
54-79-65-11-48-36-22-37-45-21-7-15-23-74-10-38-19-67-24-33
37-27-30-54-8-63-31-18-50-20-15-47-21-29-4-53-13-58-34-60
12-77-63-22-78-38-6-31-28-16-44-7-24-58-29-70-35-65-34-37
1-80-21-78-7-22-16-46-35-56-72-53-24-61-60-62-57-14-55-6
16-73-65-8-12-14-42-56-23-39-22-29-49-18-61-9-52-35-31-58
20-60-61-79-68-69-44-46-12-80-17-15-55-31-52-45-37-71-63-49
52-76-24-11-4-14-40-42-74-8-7-66-64-63-15-48-9-38-78-75
7-4-59-58-78-46-57-16-34-56-28-77-79-36-9-10-13-80-44-50
9-17-32-28-37-10-52-50-78-44-19-36-34-39-5-30-71-25-77-80
2-63-52-35-49-18-22-45-14-50-12-43-75-47-68-60-32-48-37-27
and I make a forecast for history
44-49-60-12-61-39-56-70-25-9-45-36-52-3-1-17-73-11-77-7"
I have to change the data's order above from Z->A by using Excel since the Program's rule:
Most recent draw result on top.
The current order is as below:
02-63-52-35-49-18-22-45-14-50-12-43-75-47-68-60-32-48-37-27
09-17-32-28-37-10-52-50-78-44-19-36-34-39-05-30-71-25-77-80
07-04-59-58-78-46-57-16-34-56-28-77-79-36-09-10-13-80-44-50
52-76-24-11-04-14-40-42-74-08-07-66-64-63-15-48-09-38-78-75
20-60-61-79-68-69-44-46-12-80-17-15-55-31-52-45-37-71-63-49
16-73-65-08-12-14-42-56-23-39-22-29-49-18-61-09-52-35-31-58
01-80-21-78-07-22-16-46-35-56-72-53-24-61-60-62-57-14-55-06
12-77-63-22-78-38-06-31-28-16-44-07-24-58-29-70-35-65-34-37
37-27-30-54-08-63-31-18-50-20-15-47-21-29-04-53-13-58-34-60
54-79-65-11-48-36-22-37-45-21-07-15-23-74-10-38-19-67-24-33
Then I sent it into my RNG_MP 1.0 but it's still not working as the below picture:
"Almost every line of the extra pass."
I'm still not clear how can I understand your meaning.
Could you explicate the instruction above further by using your example?
Thanks for your nice help again!!!
Best regards,
lb
I copied Your text from the forum and imported it to RNG_MP 1.0 see the picture below
https://cloud.mail.ru/public/3kyk/4ZvLTHRjb
I don't understand what You're doing wrong...
Why do I need to work with Excel ??? Performs all conversions RNG_MP 1,0. In Excel, copy the database you need. In RNG_MP 1,0 open "Edit Draw Results". In the left window, import your database, put a check mark in "Reverse Results" and click "Generate>>>" to get a ready-made database to import into the program.
Quote: Originally posted by Miha69 on Apr 8, 2020
Why do I need to work with Excel ??? Performs all conversions RNG_MP 1,0. In Excel, copy the database you need. In RNG_MP 1,0 open "Edit Draw Results". In the left window, import your database, put a check mark in "Reverse Results" and click "Generate>>>" to get a ready-made database to import into the program.
Hi, Miha69:
You got it!!!
It's working! Thank you so much!!!
Also, I can use the tool to reverse my data of MLK or any data which it wants to be reversed
instead of using Excel in the future!
Great idea! Thanks for your sincere help again!!
Best regards,
lb
I've started running tests on NN_Pred 3.0 again. NN_Pred has for some reason not been available on Stoopendaal's website for a while.
jlg69 had some success with it on KENO and I won both 3/6 and 4/6 with it on Viking Lotto back in 2018.
I am trying it on KENO5 and KENO6 by letting it predict 20 numbers on KENO to use in wheels. It was not impossible to find 9/20 numbers once in a while.
Quote: Originally posted by MillionsWanted on Apr 9, 2020
I've started running tests on NN_Pred 3.0 again. NN_Pred has for some reason not been available on Stoopendaal's website for a while.
jlg69 had some success with it on KENO and I won both 3/6 and 4/6 with it on Viking Lotto back in 2018.
I am trying it on KENO5 and KENO6 by letting it predict 20 numbers on KENO to use in wheels. It was not impossible to find 9/20 numbers once in a while.
What settings do You use ?
Quote: Originally posted by Miha69 on Apr 10, 2020
What settings do You use ?
https://www.lotterypost.com/thread/292665/5706710
Tried as well for keno with ;
hidden 1225
training result 32
rprop init update 0.0008
Prediction 3
It gave me 10 11 and 13 right numbers within the next 3 draws
Not bad as for a trial
In addition he had rProp max step: 80
and not seeding.
Quote: Originally posted by MillionsWanted on Apr 10, 2020
https://www.lotterypost.com/thread/292665/5706710
Tried as well for keno with ;
hidden 1225
training result 32
rprop init update 0.0008
Prediction 3
It gave me 10 11 and 13 right numbers within the next 3 draws
Not bad as for a trial
In addition he had rProp max step: 80
and not seeding.
Thanks MillionsWanted! I'll try to practice at my leisure.
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