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Sep 1, 2013, 2:29 pm

Quote: Originally posted by Ronnie316 on Sep 1, 2013
How did you know I threw my Mother under a bus?

You seem to suffer from memory loss. You sided with that guy from California whose Mother bought a lottery ticket which he signed and ended up being taken to court by his Mother for theft- You, Ronnie- sided with the Son like you did with Andy, in other words that son threw his Mother under the bus, of course you don't see things that way...in a word you like:: Schizophrenia.Go to the mirror again friend. Take a hard look.
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Sep 1, 2013, 2:32 pm

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Sep 1, 2013
You seem to suffer from memory loss. You sided with that guy from California whose Mother bought a lottery ticket which he signed and ended up being taken to court by his Mother for theft- You, Ronnie- sided with the Son like you did with Andy, in other words that son threw his Mother under the bus, of course you don't see things that way...in a word you like:: Schizophrenia.Go to the mirror again friend. Take a hard look.

So......... You don't like onions that disagree you yours? What about it?
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Sep 1, 2013, 3:27 pm

Quote: Originally posted by Ronnie316 on Sep 1, 2013
So......... You don't like onions that disagree you yours? What about it?

When l was in High School there was this guy in class who almost always wanted to have the last word to any topic despite the fact that at times he was way out in left field- some of his arguments were at times soundly defeated but he soldiered on despite him standing in his own ruins.
You remind me of him, nice guy, friendly disposition but could never give up even when faced with the truth of the matter.
Its no wonder you universally loved Ronnie.
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Sep 1, 2013, 3:32 pm

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Sep 1, 2013
When l was in High School there was this guy in class who almost always wanted to have the last word to any topic despite the fact that at times he was way out in left field- some of his arguments were at times soundly defeated but he soldiered on despite him standing in his own ruins.
You remind me of him, nice guy, friendly disposition but could never give up even when faced with the truth of the matter.
Its no wonder you universally loved Ronnie.

What you're say is that your intellectual superiority makes me the underdog that everyone loves?
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Sep 1, 2013, 3:34 pm

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Sep 1, 2013
From mikeintexas:

After she put the money away, she said it would supplement what she'd been saving to go to the Indian casino over in Oklahoma.

From a post on the previous page (mine, but that doesn't matter):

For one thing, degenerate gamblers looking to recover their losses would consider that a 'disaster'.

Well, I wouldn't consider her a degenerate gambler - I bet (no pun intended) that she could have had a problem with it if she could have afforded it. She told me she had cleared "several hundred" from her trip and I doubt I'd been repaid if it weren't for that. As it was, I definitely got the vibe that she thought - since I had come into a little money - I would just let her have the money. Like I said, there's been a change in what once was a great relationship, my most favorite neighbors on the block.

I've never been around anyone who had a gambling addiction, at least not a severe one. I've tried all kinds of bad things in my life, gave them all up long ago but gambling is a thrill and it prob. wouldn't do me to live in Vegas. I have a cousin who lives there and I said as much to him and he said he blew the rent check several times until his wife put him on a set allowance. He says he takes the money and goes out and plays the poker machines and usually loses it all. I've loaned money to drunks and druggies*, though, believing that they really needed the money f/ rent, gas or groceries and that's not what my "loan" went to. Some had the audacity to come back after they figured I'd forgotten about it and asked f/ more.

*I worked at a liquor store part-time while going back to school a few yrs. ago and stopped at a conv. store on the way. A guy came up to me as I was leaving and asked f/ a few dollars so he could get something to eat. He really looked like he needed it and sounded sincere so I gave him a couple bucks and the change in my pocket, enough f/ a corn dog special and went on to work a few blocks away. About fifteen minutes later he came in wanting to buy "the cheapest vodka you got", not even recognizing me. That was the last time I ever gave money to strangers, at least on the street like that.
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Sep 1, 2013, 3:44 pm

Quote: Originally posted by mikeintexas on Sep 1, 2013
Well, I wouldn't consider her a degenerate gambler - I bet (no pun intended) that she could have had a problem with it if she could have afforded it. She told me she had cleared "several hundred" from her trip and I doubt I'd been repaid if it weren't for that. As it was, I definitely got the vibe that she thought - since I had come into a little money - I would just let her have the money. Like I said, there's been a change in what once was a great relationship, my most favorite neighbors on the block.

I've never been around anyone who had a gambling addiction, at least not a severe one. I've tried all kinds of bad things in my life, gave them all up long ago but gambling is a thrill and it prob. wouldn't do me to live in Vegas. I have a cousin who lives there and I said as much to him and he said he blew the rent check several times until his wife put him on a set allowance. He says he takes the money and goes out and plays the poker machines and usually loses it all. I've loaned money to drunks and druggies*, though, believing that they really needed the money f/ rent, gas or groceries and that's not what my "loan" went to. Some had the audacity to come back after they figured I'd forgotten about it and asked f/ more.

*I worked at a liquor store part-time while going back to school a few yrs. ago and stopped at a conv. store on the way. A guy came up to me as I was leaving and asked f/ a few dollars so he could get something to eat. He really looked like he needed it and sounded sincere so I gave him a couple bucks and the change in my pocket, enough f/ a corn dog special and went on to work a few blocks away. About fifteen minutes later he came in wanting to buy "the cheapest vodka you got", not even recognizing me. That was the last time I ever gave money to strangers, at least on the street like that.

I give people on the street a dollar or 2 all the time and I really don't care what they spend it on. As far as actual charitable giving I give to a church that has dozons of ways of helping people who are in need.
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Sep 1, 2013, 3:48 pm

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Sep 1, 2013
When l was in High School there was this guy in class who almost always wanted to have the last word to any topic despite the fact that at times he was way out in left field- some of his arguments were at times soundly defeated but he soldiered on despite him standing in his own ruins.
You remind me of him, nice guy, friendly disposition but could never give up even when faced with the truth of the matter.
Its no wonder you universally loved Ronnie.

When was the last time you helped a person in need nose-blow?.......

How much was your charitable giving during the last calender month?
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Sep 1, 2013, 5:29 pm

Quote: Originally posted by mikeintexas on Sep 1, 2013
The same thing happened to me; the neighbor I've known the longest came over, a widow woman, wanted to "borrow" five hundred bucks. I thought it was quite a bit to ask of me and told her I would but definitely needed it repaid. She looked at me funny, like it was cruel of me to insist, but agreed. As I handed her the cash, I told a "white lie" and said it was a hardship on me, but figured she needed it or wouldn't have asked. After she put the money away, she said it would supplement what she'd been saving to go to the Indian casino over in Oklahoma. My jaw was still on the floor after she had walked back to her house. I was over there right after the first of the month when she said she'd repay me. She hesitated, like she didn't want to pay, but did. "Might have to hit you up for another loan next time I go to the casino." she said. I told her I didn't like subsidizing other people's vices, had enough of my own. We're still "friends" but I can sense a difference, but I really don't care.

I've loaned out thousands in my life and I bet not 10% was ever paid back. The ones who got the 90%? Never heard from them again.

Dang mike, that took some major gonads for her to admit it was for gambling. LOL.

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Sep 1, 2013, 5:38 pm

mikeintexas,

I lived in Vegas and worked in the business for almost 20 years. I'd say if that lady wanted someone to help finance her trip to a casino she was on the way to being a degenerate, or at least in Vegas parlance a 'mooch'.

Try this - a guy known as Lenny the Loser was playing on our table while somone was rolling a monster. One of the players is getting a nice collection of chips in his rack and Lenny folowsa him to the rest room (not knowing there are some dealers in there) and gives the guy a sob story about having to go down to Jean (Nevada prison) and getting his daughter that day, she was getting out of jail, he needed gas money, lunch money, etc.....

The player, not knowing Lenny and being a tourist, gives Lenny $300. Lenny and the guy leave the restroom, Lenny goes back to the very same game the guy is on and buys in for $300. Another class act brought to you by one of Las Vegas' degenerates.

noise-gate,

Regarding the Bble and the book of James. Martin Luther wasn't sure James should be in the canon because it promotes work based salvation. All through the NT Jesus, after doing a healing, never said "Your works have made you well." He always said, "Your faith has made you well."

This doesn't mean that people of faith don't do good works. They just know you can't buy or earn your way into heaven.

Work out your own salvation, with fear and trembling.

Also, scripture calls for us to use discernment. As Jon D mentioned you probably started this thread with good intentions, but you need to use discernment, too. Don't let your desire to be a 'good Samaritan' over rule any street smarts or discernment.

Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any. So many systems, so many theories, so few jackpot winners.

There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.
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Sep 1, 2013, 6:36 pm

I do not share winnings. If I want to give to charity then I start my own, so I know exactly where the money is going and how it is being used. I would rather "invest" in people, i.e. start a company that creates jobs or provide a valuable product/service. If I ever hit it big I probably wouldn't tell my family at first.

If the chances of winning the jackpot are so slim, why play when the jackpot is so small? Your chances never change, but the potential payoff does.
If a crystal ball showed you the future of the rest of your life, and in that future you will never win a jackpot, would you still play?

P&L % = Total Win($)/Total Wager($) - 1
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Sep 1, 2013, 10:23 pm

Coin Toss -Luther was the most widely read author of his generation, and within Germany he acquired the status of a prophet. According to the prevailing view among historians, his anti-Jewish rhetoric contributed significantly to the development of antisemitism in Germany,and in the 1930s and 1940s provided an "ideal underpinning" for the Nazis' attacks on Jews.Reinhold Lewin writes that anybody who "wrote against the Jews for whatever reason believed he had the right to justify himself by triumphantly referring to Luther." According to Robert Michael, just about every anti-Jewish book printed in the Third Reich contained references to and quotations from Luther. Heinrich Himmler wrote admiringly of his writings and sermons on the Jews in 1940.

* l think Luther spoke for himself when putting forth the idea of what could and should not be allowed in the Bible Canon. There is no verse in scripture promoting Anti Semitism, its a known fact that Martin Luther was friendly toward the Jews, since he expected that they would convert to Christianity once the pure gospel was preached to them. When this hope went unfulfilled, he became a vehement enemy of the Jews.”

Your point on discerment is right on- l agree 100% with you.
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Sep 2, 2013, 1:23 am

noise-gate,

AH, you've studied history, good.

One of the things that set Luther off was being in Rome and seeing priests from his area paying prostitutes with money they had made by selling indulgences.

Of course, he also said the if he knew the world was ending the next day he'd plant a tree <insert Looney Tunes them here>.

Kind of odd that Luther is credited with starting the Protestant Reformation yet a Luthern church service is so 'catholic'. Of course, he wasn't out to split from the RCC but to reform it from within.

Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any. So many systems, so many theories, so few jackpot winners.

There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.
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Sep 2, 2013, 12:08 pm

I don't believe that I would write a check to anyone on here except Todd. The website has provided everyone with useful resources and contacts that have helped me improve.

I might make an effort to meet some of the other great LP posters in other states for lunch.

Life's Too Short To Be Unhappy
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Sep 2, 2013, 1:06 pm

Quote: Originally posted by NightStalker on Sep 2, 2013
I don't believe that I would write a check to anyone on here except Todd. The website has provided everyone with useful resources and contacts that have helped me improve.

I might make an effort to meet some of the other great LP posters in other states for lunch.

sounds like a thar, Nightstalker

I know I'd send Todd a big thank you for all he does around this forum