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• Tiburon140

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  I've been playing Michigan Pick 6 game (Classic Lotto 47) with the Quick pick.  I've got 6 different quick picks for one drawing, from 6 different lottery machines.  5 out of 6 of the tickets have numbers like these (#,#,33,34,35,#) (#,#,27,28,29,#) (4,5,6,#,#,#) (16,17,18,#,#,#)  (#,#,#,39,40,41)

   Are these considered "bad"??
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  Quote: Originally posted by Tiburon140 on May 6, 2006

  I've been playing Michigan Pick 6 game (Classic Lotto 47) with the Quick pick.  I've got 6 different quick picks for one drawing, from 6 different lottery machines.  5 out of 6 of the tickets have numbers like these (#,#,33,34,35,#) (#,#,27,28,29,#) (4,5,6,#,#,#) (16,17,18,#,#,#)  (#,#,#,39,40,41)

   Are these considered "bad"??

  No! Not really....
  
• Badger

  

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  Quote: Originally posted by Tiburon140 on May 6, 2006

  I've been playing Michigan Pick 6 game (Classic Lotto 47) with the Quick pick.  I've got 6 different quick picks for one drawing, from 6 different lottery machines.  5 out of 6 of the tickets have numbers like these (#,#,33,34,35,#) (#,#,27,28,29,#) (4,5,6,#,#,#) (16,17,18,#,#,#)  (#,#,#,39,40,41)

   Are these considered "bad"??

  Go and look at your back history of draws for the game.  I would be surprised if you didn't find that there have been a number of draws where three consecutive numbers were drawn in a single drawing. It's not that unusual.

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  In a 6/47 game . . . 
  The odds of no consecutive numbers is 49%
  The odds of two consecutive numbers is 46%
  The odds of three consecutive numbers is 5%
  The odds of everything else about zero.
  
  Your tickets are the difference between slim and none.

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• Badger

  

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  Quote: Originally posted by BobP on May 7, 2006

  In a 6/47 game . . . 
  The odds of no consecutive numbers is 49%
  The odds of two consecutive numbers is 46%
  The odds of three consecutive numbers is 5%
  The odds of everything else about zero.
  
  Your tickets are the difference between slim and none.

  BobP
  
  

  But in any individual drawing, anything can happen.  And often does. I've come to the conclusion over the years that statistics are only a guideline in the lottery.  IOW, as soon as you throw out the combo with the three consecutive numbers, it will be drawn. Stats are okay....but mainly over the long run. Short term, it's all up for grabs.

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  Quote: Originally posted by Badger on May 7, 2006

  Quote: Originally posted by BobP on May 7, 2006

  In a 6/47 game . . . 
  The odds of no consecutive numbers is 49%
  The odds of two consecutive numbers is 46%
  The odds of three consecutive numbers is 5%
  The odds of everything else about zero.
  
  Your tickets are the difference between slim and none.

  BobP
  
  

  But in any individual drawing, anything can happen.  And often does. I've come to the conclusion over the years that statistics are only a guideline in the lottery.  IOW, as soon as you throw out the combo with the three consecutive numbers, it will be drawn. Stats are okay....but mainly over the long run. Short term, it's all up for grabs.

  go to  Michigan sate lottery and check the games history i went there last night and looked at a year and a half of pick 6 draws and didn't see one single 3 digit consecutive drawing. Now i could have missed seeing it but i think i'm right. even still those are the facts.... sure it can happen but Mich. state drawing history dosen't have a track record of that happening.

  And your right it could happen in the next draw. then again it might be 2 or 3 months or a year from now. It's your money do what you want with it.  
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  Michigan (Past Year)
  
  Wed, May 25, 2005 - 08-09-10-20-22-27
  Wed, Aug 03, 2005 - 11-12-13-17-18-33
  Sat, Sep 17, 2005 - 01-16-27-28-29-31
  Wed, Dec 28, 2005 - 18-19-20-32-34-45
  Wed, Apr 05, 2006 - 17-27-28-40-41-42
  
  The position of the number in the number stack is alot more important than whether or not the number is going to be part of a multi-number consecutive number string.
  
• pacattack05

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  Quote: Originally posted by BobP on May 7, 2006

  In a 6/47 game . . . 
  The odds of no consecutive numbers is 49%
  The odds of two consecutive numbers is 46%
  The odds of three consecutive numbers is 5%
  The odds of everything else about zero.
  
  Your tickets are the difference between slim and none.

  BobP
  
  

  Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought every combo has equal chance of coming out.

  1 2 3 4 5 6 have the same chance as 3 12 24 35 44 50.

  I continually have this argument with a friend in California. He claims that the likelyhood of 1 2 3 4 5 6 coming out is so remote, that no one will ever witness those combos to show for a very long time.

  My argument with him is that, it will probably take that long for 3 12 24 35 44 50 to come out again.

  It only looks bias, because of the consective orientation of 1 2 3 4 5 6. It's just an illusion, because that combo's time isn't here yet. It has just as much chance as any other combo.

  So to say that these groups of numbers have this much chance, and that group has so and so amount of chance is bogus.

  The only way that statement would be correct, is if those percentages you're talking about, is data from the past history of the game. If you're saying that the odds of three consecutive numbers is 5%, then that's based on that particular game's history, right? Not a general statement, right? Or am I wrong?
• Badger

  

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  Quote: Originally posted by Raven62 on May 7, 2006

  Michigan (Past Year)
  
  Wed, May 25, 2005 - 08-09-10-20-22-27
  Wed, Aug 03, 2005 - 11-12-13-17-18-33
  Sat, Sep 17, 2005 - 01-16-27-28-29-31
  Wed, Dec 28, 2005 - 18-19-20-32-34-45
  Wed, Apr 05, 2006 - 17-27-28-40-41-42
  
  The position of the number in the number stack is alot more important than whether or not the number is going to be part of a multi-number consecutive number string.
  

  Not surprised, Raven. Same sort of thing happens here.  And the original question was whether or not the member's QPs were "bad".  And I don't think they are any worse for the next draw than any other QP. Over the long haul, sure, three consecutives won't come out that often. But they do hit, as you show, and no one knows if the next drawing may not be one where they do hit.  And each ccombination in any particular game has the same odds of hitting as any other, if all you want to look at is odds. Statistics are statistics. But seems to me that if all it took were stats to win the lottery, then we'd all have winners coming out our......    Anyway, I think a lot of players may feel that without stats, they have no "control" over their combos.  But is there any such thing, anyway?  There is no way to "control" what hits.  You have to put some intuition into the choices. Just cold hard stat-following isn't going to be enough. Just my opinion.

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• justxploring

  

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  I agree with Pac. Many of the huge jackpots were won using QPs with strange combinations.  I was very surprised that only one player won the FL Lotto for $3 million last week (not a QP) with

  04 - 07 - 09 - 12 - 18 - 22

  According to the "rules" having 6 numbers fall below 27 in a 6/53 game is unlikely. 250 people got 5/6 and only won $1,254 instead of the average $5,000 payout, probably because of all the low numbers. Just staring at last year's list I see several jackpots that were won with 3 consecutive numbers such as:

  On 2/16/05 -  the winning numbers were 6-7-8-35-48-52 

  On 4/27/05  - the winning numbers were 2-25-26-27-30-37

  On 4/13/05 -  the winning numbers were 8-9-10-31-47-50

  On 5/25/05 -  the winning numbers were 13-32-33-34-47-49

  On 12/3/05  - the winning numbers were 11-24-25-26-29-51

  On 12/21/05 -  the winning numbers were 3-4-5-9-44-51

  Within just one month (April 27 to May 25) there were 3 draws with 3 consecutive numbers.
• Tiburon140

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  Thanks guys. I still believe in Quickpicks!!!
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  Quote: Originally posted by Badger on May 7, 2006

  Quote: Originally posted by Raven62 on May 7, 2006

  Michigan (Past Year)
  
  Wed, May 25, 2005 - 08-09-10-20-22-27
  Wed, Aug 03, 2005 - 11-12-13-17-18-33
  Sat, Sep 17, 2005 - 01-16-27-28-29-31
  Wed, Dec 28, 2005 - 18-19-20-32-34-45
  Wed, Apr 05, 2006 - 17-27-28-40-41-42
  
  The position of the number in the number stack is alot more important than whether or not the number is going to be part of a multi-number consecutive number string.
  

  Not surprised, Raven. Same sort of thing happens here.  And the original question was whether or not the member's QPs were "bad".  And I don't think they are any worse for the next draw than any other QP. Over the long haul, sure, three consecutives won't come out that often. But they do hit, as you show, and no one knows if the next drawing may not be one where they do hit.  And each ccombination in any particular game has the same odds of hitting as any other, if all you want to look at is odds. Statistics are statistics. But seems to me that if all it took were stats to win the lottery, then we'd all have winners coming out our......    Anyway, I think a lot of players may feel that without stats, they have no "control" over their combos.  But is there any such thing, anyway?  There is no way to "control" what hits.  You have to put some intuition into the choices. Just cold hard stat-following isn't going to be enough. Just my opinion.

  My answer from the get-go was NO! Statistics do however allow one to make educated choices. Chance favors the prepared mind.
  
• BobP

  

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  All lottery game breakdown statistics are known from the game size/rules before the first number is drawn.
  
  Every combination is equally likely, (though not always advised because some combinations like the Lost numbers are over subscribed) but each combination belongs to multiple sub-sets that can be relied upon to be drawn a percentage of times, over time, based on probability.
  
  So while anything can happen in the next drawing, some gross factors come around every other draw like No Consecutive Numbers and others come around less then one time in a hundred draws like 4 or more Consecutive Numbers.
  
  Of course if you wait out 100 draws you have better odds when that type of draw comes in, but you may still face higher odds then Pick-4 straight for your combination. 
  
  The more often something comes around the more chances you have (abet smaller) to win something. 
  
  BobP
   
• Badger

  

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  Quote: Originally posted by Tiburon140 on May 7, 2006

  Thanks guys. I still believe in Quickpicks!!!

  LOL ! And as luck would have it (and with only skill and no luck at all, you got little chance, so there's always some luck involved) here is the winning draw from our local 5/31 game from last night.

  8-9-10-26-30

  

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  anything is possible......