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Arkansas woman loses bid for $1M lottery ticket picked from trash

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The lady who found it should have kept her yapper shut about it.

The judge was wrong.

sully16's avatar - sharan
In response to rdgrnr

I agree loose lips sink ships, she was even dumber by spending money she didn't have yet.

dallascowboyfan's avatar - chi
In response to rdgrnr

I Agree!

dallascowboyfan's avatar - chi

Ms Duncan should split the winnings with Mrs. Jones.  If it wasn't for Jones finding the ticket Duncan would have nothing she was the one that threw away $1 million dollars.

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Naw, I have to disagree with EVERYBODY HERE. Why? Possession is 90% of the law...and in this case, just because someone threw away a winning ticket due to not checking it thoroughly, the person who found it and checked shouldn't be stripped of the winnings!!!!! This is total and complete BULLSH*T!!!! I can promise you that if it involved a prize of $50 on a scratch-off, there would be absolutely no issues!!!! However, because this woman wasn't thorough enough to make sure her ticket wasn't a winner, the judge now wants to penalize THE SMART PERSON THAT ACTUALLY GOES AROUND AND CHECKS DISCARDED TICKETS TO VALIDATE WHETHER OR NOT THEY'RE LEGIT WINNERS.

Hell, the ticket wasn't even signed!!! So, this means that if I throw away a $1000 scratch-off, and, someone else finds and claims it, I can file an appeal and get it back!!!! How corrupt is this? The bearer of the ticket is suppose to be the winner providing it wasn't stolen etc. Sorry, I totally disagree with this whole scenario...and the judge is wrong for ruling in this manner. It's the person's fault who threw away a winning ticket...not the discoverer's.

Amazing......


L.L.

Cletu$2's avatar - Lottery-050.jpg

Lottery tickets are "bearer instruments".If the ticket was unsigned,it belongs to the person that found it and cashed it in.The judge was wrong!Thats how I see it.

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In response to Cletu$2

Now you're talkin'!!!!!!!!!


L.L.

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For $1 million, the finder probably had to answer when/how she acquired the ticket.

Remember, they already had video of someone else buying that ticket.

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This is BS, the ticket was thrown away, it belongs to the woman who found it. I hope this is overturned on appeal. 

You can tape anything you want on the trash allegedly but as far as I know the law states that once something goes in the trash it is fair game. The trash logic makes no sense regardless. First you could make the crazy argument that if you threw away your ticket by accident you would not be able to retrieve it and second if tickets are thrown in the trash and can't be retrieved, then does that mean the store has the right to the tickets or does the store have to throw out all tickets? 

If it was the store owner that found this ticket rather than this customer would the judge have allowed the owner to keep the ticket? The security video and the ticket purchase time don't even sync up. Where did this judge get his law degree, clown school?

If the ticket was thrown in the dumpster and lost forever this woman would definitely not get anything so at bare minimum she should offer the woman who found the ticket half of the winnings. 

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In response to time*treat

Doesn't matter, she threw it away which is also on camera. The NEW BEARER of the ticket actually CLAIMED IT. End of story.


L.L.

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In response to rdgrnr

CONCUR! Had she quietly cashed in the winning ticket there wouldn't have been any issues. The judge seems to lack common sense...no way he should have ruled in the way of the person who threw away the ticket. There are cases where people have thrown away tickets believing they were not winners. Who is to say that some bum goes digging through a trash bin looking for a meal and finds a million dollar winning scratch off ticket. Then some yahoo claims to have brought the ticket and threw it away by accident and it it's their ticket. Once that ticket is thrown away it is fair game unless the back of the ticket is signed. That judge should have his/her head examined.

                                                                I Agree!

dallascowboyfan's avatar - chi
In response to Lucky Loser

LL,   

Ridge, Sully and I agree that the Judge was wrong by awarding Ms. Duncan the winnings.  I feel if Mrs. Jones(the lady that found the ticket) loses her appeal Ms. Duncan(the lady that threw the ticket away) should do the right thing and split it with the lady that found the ticket.  If it wasn't for Mrs. Jones the ticket would still be in the trash.

Littleoldlady's avatar - basket

the ticket was unsigned and if the lottery folks were satisfied and gave the finder of the ticket the money, she should be able to keep the money.  It seems like to me the storeowner and manager are trying to "get in on the picture"..why did they think they needed to be in the lawsuit.?  The judge is silly as all get out-because the ticket is a "bearer" instrument.  Finders, keepers, losers, weepers.

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At least 1 Sharon Won!

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LOTTERY SPY CAM IN ACTION I GUESS,homeless and trash divers are not suppose have a Blessed day!
its ok as long as its not a million bucks..! I see it often and have looked in the trash to see hot selling scratch=offs.    I have purchased lottery tickets for years and have yet to see all of these gadgets to verfy me buying anything at a specific time. the time of purchase is on the  machine tickets but on Scratch-off ,the store clerk grabs a ticket and give you one off a roll ,sometime you dont even see the roll and the roll has not even been scaned yet. ARE WE TO ASSUME THAT ALL LOTTERY SALES ARE RECORDED ?? If someone  throws a ticket away for a smaller amount nothing is said; Do you only check large winners sales and just how do the lottery always have a recording of big win sales.???? I am just saying;;; Florida first scratch off winner found his ticket on the street in front of his hardware store and admitted to not buying a ticket , but he claimed 5000.
   STILL LOOKING FOR THAT MACHINE WITH THE CAMERA SO AT LEAST I KNOW WHERE THE WINNING TICKET WILL BE SOLD...just saying

HaveABall's avatar - rocket
In response to nexplorer

Welcome to the blog, nexplorer!  You're off to a great contribution start ... you've posted the most intelligent idea thus far.  Keep wise, cut-to-the-chase, suggestions comming!

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the only real winners here are the lawyers

Cletu$2's avatar - Lottery-050.jpg
In response to Lucky SOB

I Agree!

Bigheadnick's avatar - badluck

@ time treat

 

 

 

Lol here come the spell check police, There were a few other miss spellings in that post and thet's the only one you point out? You're getting soft.

rdgrnr's avatar - nw barkeep.jpg

This case was analyzed by Judge Napolitano on Fox News this morning.

He said once she threw it in the garbage can it wasn't her ticket anymore.

He said the judge made a bad call and it'll most likely be overturned on appeal.

RJOh's avatar - chipmunk
In response to Lucky SOB

I Agree! The case of the women claiming to have actually brought the ticket isn't so strong that another customer buying tickets near the same time couldn't have made an equally strong case.  Had that happened, the woman who found the ticket would have had the stronger case of the three and the judge could not have made the bias decision he did.

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The whole thing is  SICK!

rdgrnr's avatar - nw barkeep.jpg
In response to Lucky Loser

"Naw, I have to disagree with EVERYBODY HERE."

Who's the EVERYBODY HERE you're disagreeing with?

Everybody who posted before you (including me) had the same opinion you do.

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In response to rdgrnr

The part that doesn't make sense, when Duncan had her ticket scanned it said "Sorry not a winner", but when Jones had the ticket scanned, the it was a winner and the lottery investigated the circumstances. The reason Jones going through the trash was because many other players were throwing away their tickets. If the judge believes Jones shouldn't get the money, he still shouldn't have awarded Duncan the prize because Jones' ticket may have been bought by another player.

RJOh's avatar - chipmunk
In response to Stack47

I Agree!  All Duncan did was convince the judge she brought some lottery tickets at that store near the time the winning tickets was sold which probably other customers could have done too.  Had Jones not revealed she found the ticket in the trash or the ticket not been found, Duncan wouldn't have had a case to take to court.

Players lose winning tickets all the time and simply convincing a judge they were buying tickets at the store around the time a winning ticket was sold there isn't usually enough to be awarded  the winnings.

dallascowboyfan's avatar - chi
In response to rdgrnr

.Thumbs Up

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I remember this story from the 20/20 Special: Lotto Frenzy. I am just happy the greedy store manager did not get a dime. I hope people learn to keep their mouth closed. The winner of the ticket is the person who has the ticket, regardless of who bought it.

dallascowboyfan's avatar - chi
In response to rdgrnr

Thanks for the info ridge...Thumbs Up

dallascowboyfan's avatar - chi
In response to Nikkicute

Yes she will get a different Judge.

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