I, for one, am really glad to see this issue raised again in Indiana. There has already been one attempt to legislate computerized drawings out of existence there, maybe (hopefully!) this will spark another attempt. I hope it also gets notice in Tennessee, where the oversight meeting is just a couple of weeks away.
the lotto in my state of indiana is doing something dirty with this constant not hitting on the jackpot but ima just play my tickets and pray for the best
Im glad someone finally put a percentage on the likelihood of this happening at well below one percent. If Tennessee had a computer glitch that didnt allow doubles maybe Indiana has a glitch that doesnt allow the same numbers to be drawn if they were printed on a ticket, hence no doubles either haha. It surpassed the magical 50 million mark, now the year mark might be the magical date this falls. And no money is won when you hit 2 numbers, just a free play that is in itself worth about 20 cents, typical lottery spin.
Quote: Originally posted by Todd on Oct 17, 2007
I, for one, am really glad to see this issue raised again in Indiana. There has already been one attempt to legislate computerized drawings out of existence there, maybe (hopefully!) this will spark another attempt. I hope it also gets notice in Tennessee, where the oversight meeting is just a couple of weeks away.
I completly agree with you on this issue computerized drawings are not good for the players .The benifit is too the Lotterys and their corporate partners ....its a money maker very little payouts and all profit :
laws would push those Corporate Enterprises into a better system a ball draw in the eye of the camera and the citizens of this state:
But like I said before there are many insidences accross the USA where no one has won for over a year ....people dont want to make waves ....(just ask KY Fooled ,he hits all the web sites) case and point the pick 10 NY cash amount for all 10 =500,000.00
with up to 10 winners per draw ....number of winners for all ten in the last 5yr =( 2)
and you never know if that winner was not related to the lottery personal ,since it is a draw that is never teleivised;
Quote: Originally posted by SmoothJuice on Oct 18, 2007
IT'S completely driving me Insane!!!!!
why dont you write to the Governor or the inspector general of your state ;
tell them you dont want computerized drawings in your state ...its simple and you are paying there wages just like every-other tax payers;
"A journey of a thousand- miles begins with a single step"
Quote: Originally posted by computerhead723 on Oct 18, 2007
why dont you write to the Governor or the inspector general of your state ;
tell them you dont want computerized drawings in your state ...its simple and you are paying there wages just like every-other tax payers;
"A journey of a thousand- miles begins with a single step"
FYI-- Everyone has been notified years ago. The day that the bill to eliminate RNG was supposed to be brought up in the Legislature was the day they all walked out---isnt that a coincidence. You plead in vain if u live in Indiana. Rule of law is non existent here. EVERYONE HAS BEEN NOTIFIED! Since the Lottery is now getting scrutiny expect it to be won now. How do I know that? Cause when someone brought up the fact that there had not been quads in so long then the quads came out. There is NOTHING random about it. Just look at the daily game payouts and compare them too ANY State. It is hideously insane. But they are untouchable. Indiana makes Tennessee look like Cinderella.
we're in the same boat jeff.i don't spend and won't spend another dime until tennessee brings back balls.period.
i'm predicting that the lotto jackpot will be hit this saturday (hopefully by me) it will be the one year anniversary since it was won (actually 364 days but who cares)
Quote: Originally posted by computerhead723 on Oct 18, 2007
I completly agree with you on this issue computerized drawings are not good for the players .The benifit is too the Lotterys and their corporate partners ....its a money maker very little payouts and all profit :
laws would push those Corporate Enterprises into a better system a ball draw in the eye of the camera and the citizens of this state:
But like I said before there are many insidences accross the USA where no one has won for over a year ....people dont want to make waves ....(just ask KY Fooled ,he hits all the web sites) case and point the pick 10 NY cash amount for all 10 =500,000.00
with up to 10 winners per draw ....number of winners for all ten in the last 5yr =( 2)
and you never know if that winner was not related to the lottery personal ,since it is a draw that is never teleivised;
my information was incorrect about the NY pick 10 ..for this year there has been a few more winners ,they dont tell you on the news anything so here is the facts for getting all 10 or the largest payouts ever!!!
Winning Numbers Drawn | Total Payout | ||||||||||
02/27/2005 | 2 | 9 | 30 | 31 | 32 | 33 | 35 | 36 | 37 | 38 | $1,510,182 |
06/26/2007 | 2 | 17 | 23 | 25 | 38 | 39 | 41 | 44 | 46 | 47 | $1,032,878 |
07/04/2007 | 5 | 9 | 11 | 13 | 16 | 23 | 26 | 28 | 37 | 41 | $1,026,006 |
02/12/2004 | 2 | 3 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 16 | 17 | 31 | 39 | $596,408 |
02/16/2007 | 1 | 3 | 6 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 16 | 20 | 29 | 34 | $560,386 |
04/25/2006 | 1 | 3 | 4 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 16 | 25 | 28 | 32 | $557,618 |
09/27/2005 | 7 | 11 | 17 | 20 | 23 | 26 | 27 | 28 | 31 | 37 | $547,028 |
09/01/2005 | 4 | 6 | 7 | 9 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 19 | 26 | 28 | $545,340 |
05/04/2004 | 3 | 5 | 12 | 14 | 18 | 22 | 38 | 45 | 48 | 54 | $543,480 |
03/15/2003 | 4 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 11 | 19 | 21 | 28 | 31 | 36 | $541,930 |
09/04/2006 | 2 | 4 | 6 | 8 | 10 | 14 | 18 | 20 | 30 | 32 | $541,664 |
02/04/2006 | 1 | 3 | 10 | 14 | 19 | 20 | 23 | 25 | 26 | 28 | $538,698 |
03/01/2007 | 2 | 3 | 5 | 9 | 14 | 17 | 20 | 22 | 33 | 37 | $536,254 |
08/09/2004 | 6 | 9 | 12 | 17 | 22 | 23 | 27 | 29 | 36 | 39 | $536,168 |
10/02/2007 | 7 | 8 | 19 | 21 | 24 | 25 | 29 | 30 | 32 | 33 | $535,522 |
04/09/2006 | 7 | 10 | 14 | 20 | 24 | 33 | 34 | 35 | 40 | 43 | $533,746 |
02/21/2007 | 2 | 6 | 8 | 12 | 13 | 19 | 23 | 27 | 32 | 34 | $531,682 |
01/31/2007 | 3 | 11 | 14 | 16 | 18 | 20 | 25 | 28 | 32 | 38 | $531,460 |
10/15/2006 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 17 | 20 | 27 | 31 | 32 | 34 | 36 | $530,204 |
12/04/2005 | 8 | 10 | 25 | 32 | 39 | 42 | 57 | 58 | 60 | 65 | $191,610 |
11/19/2003 | 7 | 12 | 14 | 18 | 36 | 37 | 38 | 52 | 53 | 59 | $165,048 |
10/24/2002 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 18 | 19 | 22 | 24 | $112,224 |
10/21/2005 | 1 | 2 | 5 | 7 | 9 | 11 | 12 | 19 | 22 | 25 | $106,034 |
05/24/2004 | 17 | 23 | 25 | 28 | 30 | 31 | 32 | 33 | 34 | 35 | $103,300 |
08/04/2007 | 1 | 4 | 6 | 7 | 12 | 14 | 15 | 17 | 18 | 19 | $94,994 |
06/10/2006 | 4 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 12 | 14 | 15 | 17 | 19 | 23 | $94,598 |
02/15/2007 | 2 | 5 | 7 | 8 | 10 | 11 | 15 | 17 | 23 | 26 | $93,332 |
04/01/2004 | 1 | 2 | 3 | 5 | 8 | 9 | 12 | 21 | 25 | 26 | $91,206 |
Yes that is a long time. But you do have to look at the odds. I mean if the jackpot is really this high and they are only selling about $1.5 million tickets a drawing, that is a lot of uncovered combinations. Now for how long this has been growing the odds are probably pretty small that it would have lasted this long. But odds are odds. I really don't see how it could be a fraction of a percent though. I mean when the jackpot is small it seems like they don't sell many tickets at all.
But by the way the jackpot only grows by $500,000 a drawing? When they are selling $3,000,000 tickets a week the jackpot should be increase by at least $2,000,000 a week not only $1,000,000. But I guess it does make up for the beginning jackpots when I doubt they sell enough tickets to warrant the $500,000 increase.
Brad
Ohio's Classic Lotto, a 6/49 game has a starting jackpot of $1M and is increased by $100K each drawing that it's not won. Unlike Hoosier Lotto which offer a free play for matching 2, its lowest prize is $2 for a match3.
Since the Hoosier Lotto payouts(10/17/07=$195K)is higher than Ohio Classic Lotto payouts(10/17/07=$22K), I assume it's attracting more players, however the Ohio game jackpot has been won three times since it started less than a year ago. It's truly is a mystery why the Hoosier Lotto game has gone so long without a jackpot winner.
P.S. Ohio Classic Lotto picks its numbers the old fashion way, it uses a ball machine.
Quote: Originally posted by RJOh on Oct 18, 2007
Ohio's Classic Lotto, a 6/49 game has a starting jackpot of $1M and is increased by $100K each drawing that it's not won. Unlike Hoosier Lotto which offer a free play for matching 2, its lowest prize is $2 for a match3.
Since the Hoosier Lotto payouts(10/17/07=$195K)is higher than Ohio Classic Lotto payouts(10/17/07=$22K), I assume it's attracting more players, however the Ohio game jackpot has been won three times since it started less than a year ago. It's truly is a mystery why the Hoosier Lotto game has gone so long without a jackpot winner.
P.S. Ohio Classic Lotto picks its numbers the old fashion way, it uses a ball machine.
A mystery? Hardly. One needs only to look at the 0 straight winners on pic 4 every day and the ridiculously low pic 3 payouts. The mystery becomes obvious.
Quote: Originally posted by computerhead723 on Oct 18, 2007
I completly agree with you on this issue computerized drawings are not good for the players .The benifit is too the Lotterys and their corporate partners ....its a money maker very little payouts and all profit :
laws would push those Corporate Enterprises into a better system a ball draw in the eye of the camera and the citizens of this state:
But like I said before there are many insidences accross the USA where no one has won for over a year ....people dont want to make waves ....(just ask KY Fooled ,he hits all the web sites) case and point the pick 10 NY cash amount for all 10 =500,000.00
with up to 10 winners per draw ....number of winners for all ten in the last 5yr =( 2)
and you never know if that winner was not related to the lottery personal ,since it is a draw that is never teleivised;
exactly why I quit playing keno here in mich...not televised and computerized equals no dough from my pocket!!!!!!!
I hate to predict this but, someday (your state or my state) will convert to computerized drawings. People will wise up and not play as much or at all. Some people will realize that not only the drawings are rigged but that they seem to have more money to spend without actually winning anything because they haven't been playing either or playing as much. If nj ever goes computerized I'd probably be tempted to go to other States or just play Mega/Powerball.
Quote: Originally posted by LosingJeff on Oct 18, 2007
Thats exactly what the want you to believe; yet, Indiana has more powerball winners than anyone. You should stop in any store in Indiana and ask the clerks how many people are happy with the Lottery. I was just in the store this morning and hear, "everybody is talking about how screwed up it is". Do you honestly think that sales data is the issue. I think not. I dont care what anyone thinks, a Lottery that has a player population larger than another will have higher amounts of payouts than say a State with 2 million less people. To consistently pay 0 straight winners is an absoultely phoenomena compared to any other State. Maybe you should try to get the sales data from them---Good luck! FOI act is worthless here. With the consciousness level of mankind rising, any deceit or corruption that would or has possibly existed will be exposed. Maybe I should mail Todd these 100000 losing pic 4 combinations (1.2 million numbers) and let him compare the numbers to other State Lotteries. I did this myself, and in a 5 year period I won 24,500-39,000 in 5 states, the minimum being 24,500. Indiana 400.00. I guess odds have it that I just use the same losing numbers everyday for 7 years. In 7 years of playing $10-20 dollars per draw (midday and evening) I have never hit a straight combo. As a matter of fact when you play 7000 to 15000 a year in combos and win zilch you call that fair? Just where are the numbers that everyone plays? Payouts are ridiculous--check them for yourself. Many many people are now asking questions, probably because they are broke thinking the odds would come around; that just doesnt happen here. So to answer your question, that does it depend on the sales? Answer this question first--which lottery pays more:
1) a lottery in existence for 18 years with a population of over 6 million
2) a lottery in existence for 4 years with a population of 4million
Sales doesnt mean didly, as it is common sense that statistics will show that number 1 should be the dominate payout State.
todays indiana mid day came :
488
4817...
just as I said in my rule:
if a one (01) falls with the number it will fall with :
01-05 -02- 06 - 08-04-07 in this case (04-08-07)this included the pick 3;
their will be no 000 or 999 or 333 nor 339 nor 309;
the number must fall with one orr more of the listed numbers untill it changes;
its is possible for 101 or 109 but 319;372;387;898 ect;;;;
well after tonight I re-evaulated indiana and I am gonna stick my neck out on this but for the next -4-7 draws or untill changed this is What I think;
when a ( 01 ) is in the number it will fall with the following number or numbers:
01-05 -02- 06 - 08-04-07....its a little help ...
so when you play make sure if you play (example)
1953 -not 1390 but 3124 or 3126 is better;
good plays ....5138...7487...3884....6812....2711....1725....5286....5289
Quote: Originally posted by computerhead723 on Oct 20, 2007
todays indiana mid day came :
488
4817...
just as I said in my rule:
if a one (01) falls with the number it will fall with :
01-05 -02- 06 - 08-04-07 in this case (04-08-07)this included the pick 3;
their will be no 000 or 999 or 333 nor 339 nor 309;
the number must fall with one orr more of the listed numbers untill it changes;
its is possible for 101 or 109 but 319;372;387;898 ect;;;;
well after tonight I re-evaulated indiana and I am gonna stick my neck out on this but for the next -4-7 draws or untill changed this is What I think;
when a ( 01 ) is in the number it will fall with the following number or numbers:
01-05 -02- 06 - 08-04-07....its a little help ...
so when you play make sure if you play (example)
1953 -not 1390 but 3124 or 3126 is better;
good plays ....5138...7487...3884....6812....2711....1725....5286....5289
I appreciate the help, but I got 3 of 4 numbers 90% of draws on pic 4. What people do not understand is that in Indiana you can win on paper, but not by actually buying the ticket. Again, the payouts are beyond ridiculous compared to ANY state in the Country. Not even close. If you play on paper you can win. Otherwise, dont play at all. By all means, I am willing to send Todd all the tickets I have accumulated. I would guess that of all these tickets I would win a minimum of 20000 in any 5 states of choice over the past 5 years. Indiana 400. And trust me it is alot of money. Absoultely NO RETURN IN INDIANA. Go stand in any store in Indiana and hear the great comments about all the money being won. lol. Well anyways, enough of talking about this. It is my belief that they will allow a winner tonight, but no later than wedenesay, seeing how the are on the skyline once more. Unless, of course, God Almighty is gonna let this run for awhile to further raise suspicion. The later I hope.
While you are at it, go check out the big pic 3 and pic 4 winners yesterday for the lottery with the current largest jackpot in the USA. Tell me what you think.
Quote: Originally posted by LosingJeff on Oct 25, 2007
And the joke continues
agreed
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