If the Michigan government shuts down because legislators are unable to agree on a new state budget, the Michigan Lottery will suspend operations at the end of the business day on Sunday.
All lottery ticket sales, validations and prize payments will be suspended. Drawings will be held for tickets sold prior to the shutdown. Players with advanced wagers will be able to check their numbers in newspapers and on the Lottery Post Web site, www.lotterypost.com/results/mi.
Players with winning tickets should sign them immediately and place them in safe locations. Winning tickets will be validated once Lottery operations resume and retailers will be able to resume selling tickets at that time.
In case of a shutdown, no licenses will be issued or charity game tickets shipped from the Lottery warehouse. Charitable gaming events already licensed my be conducted as scheduled.
Michigan Governor: 'No deal unless you give me higher taxes.'
Lawmakers were trying Saturday to strike deals on tax increases and measures aimed at lowering health insurance costs for some public employees in an effort to avoid a partial government shutdown.
Democratic Gov. Jennifer Granholm has told about 35,000 of the state's more than 53,000 workers not to report to work on Monday if a shutdown occurs. The remaining workers, mostly related to public health and safety, would stay on the job.
A partial state shutdown would mean most government operations would cease, including liquor deliveries, lottery ticket sales, the issuance of driver's licenses and construction on state roads.
Lawmakers are tasked with erasing a $1.75 billion deficit in the fiscal year that begins Monday. Republicans have pushed Granholm to accept a temporary budget that would extend the one currently in place, giving legislators more time to craft a long term deal.
Granholm has said she won't sign a temporary budget unless she has assurances higher taxes to pay for education, public health and other programs are part of the deal.
Leaders in both the Democrat-led House and Republican-controlled Senate are optimistic a deal will be reached to avoid a shutdown. The Legislature could vote on final proposals later this weekend.
Detroit casinos may benefit from lottery shutdown
Detroit's three casinos can stay open even if state government partially shuts down next week, a judge ruled Friday.
Wayne County Circuit Judge William Giovan's decision reversed a ruling by the Michigan Gaming Control Board. The board said Thursday it would have to suspend the operations of the casinos if state government partially shuts down Monday.
"Putting pressure on the Legislature is not an excuse for torturing our statutes into something that they're not, and that's what happened here," Giovan said Friday. "Putting pressure on the Legislature is not a reason to cause the devastation, and I'm going to call it that, that would have occurred in terms of tax revenues and jobs for people."
State attorneys representing the gaming board were weighing an emergency appeal late Friday, said Matt Frendewey, spokesman for Attorney General Mike Cox. But time was dwindling before the weekend and it appeared likely the casinos would stay open Monday.
"It's a victory for the 7,000 workers at the three Detroit casinos who will not be furloughed," Greektown Casino spokesman Roger Martin said. "It's a victory for public schools in Michigan and public safety programs in the city of Detroit that will continue to benefit from $1 million a day the three casinos pay to them."
Giovan issued a temporary restraining order and preliminary injunction blocking the gaming board from suspending operations at the casinos.
Gov. Jennifer Granholm has said casinos would be among the casualties of a partial state shutdown because state employees who monitor and regulate the casinos would be among those temporarily laid off.
Michigan law requires that state regulators be on-site daily to monitor operations at the MGM Grand Detroit, Greektown and MotorCity casinos.
Richard Kalm, executive director of the Gaming Control Board, said that without state regulators in place, the integrity of each casino would be at risk when it came to payoffs, security and patrons' safety.
But casino lawyers said their casinos had enough surveillance and security in place that they could operate without state regulators on-site.
State services affected by a shut down
Here's how state operations in a typical town might be affected by the impending state government shut down:
COMMUNITY HEALTH: Limited Medicaid support will be available to approve emergency medical prior-authorizations and review exception requests for medications and medical procedures.
CORRECTIONS: Probation and parole employees at correction centers, as of Friday afternoon, still were expecting to report to work Monday.
EDUCATION: Public schools will not be affected unless the government remains shut down in mid-October, thus jeopardizing an Oct. 22 state-aid payment.
ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY: No permits — air quality, surface water discharge, wetlands, dredging and others — will be processed, and no environmental complaints will be received or investigated.
HUMAN SERVICES: Critical Department of Human Services' operations will be maintained with a small percentage of field staff to respond to emergencies.
LABOR & ECONOMIC GROWTH: Most of the unemployment insurance agencies will be closed; however, unemployment checks will continue to be processed, and new applications can be made over the phone or via the Internet.
LOTTERY & GAMING: Lottery sales will end at the close of business Sunday. Players will not be able to purchase or redeem winning tickets. Minimal staff will maintain drawings because of advance ticket sales.
MILITARY & VETERANS AFFAIRS: The Youth Challenge Program will remain operational but with minimum staff. Feeding and education will be provided by Public Schools. The state's 44 National Guard armories, six National Guard training sites and National Guard administrative offices are federally funded and will remain open.
NATURAL RESOURCES: Shutdown will require that all state recreation areas, including Fort Custer Recreation Area, parks, DNR visitor centers and state forest campgrounds be closed, including day use areas. People with camping reservations at a state park or recreation area during the duration of the shutdown will be eligible for a refund.
SECRETARY OF STATE: Branch offices will be closed during the shutdown. Online or mail transactions will not be processed.
STATE POLICE: Though all Michigan State Police posts will be closed to the public, 222 uniformed troopers, 15 sergeants, three lieutenants and 27 dispatchers will provide critical law enforcement services statewide after a 90 percent reduction in MSP staff. Other state police services will be suspended.
TRANSPORTATION: All road construction, routine maintenance and administrative operations will stop, and the state's rest areas will be closed.
The Michigan governor sounds like ours. We don't have a budget in place either, and they were supposed to have one last July. But the governor, (whom I call "Governor Vito" because he has vetoed everything that would give the average Joe some relief since he has been in office) wants to double the state tax revenue. And he has advocates in the state legislature. He seems ready to veto anything that isn't what he wants.
If this goes on in more and more states, it will break the back of the country's economy. The gap between the rich and everyone else is getting larger and larger. There is a limit to everything, and the pols need to learn they can't keep going to the well forever without there being dire consequences.
This is very odd, why dont I ever hear about any of this in the local newspapers? We'll actually I haven't read the newspaper nor watched television recently so maybe I missed it! You would think this would have been international news.
I have noticed every time that I come to lottery post something criminal is going on with some lottery in the United State. Texas, Georgia, Indiana, Michigan and more.
I almost start to think that the lottery wants to look like crooks so no one will trust them and everyone will stop buying tickets.
You know so people will stop gambling?
Some times they are outright blatent in their crookedness. Like they want to get caught?
Is this their hidden agenda?
How can people say the lottery is stickly monitored when its not! I dont get it??? From what I read on lottery post it seems as if it really isnt monitored all that well. I'm just sayin.
I am just utterly confused each time I hear of something crooked going on behind the publics back and no one had a clue and ultimately nothing is ever really done about it.
Maybe someone can catch me up here. Did any of the people who rigged the Texas lotto some time ago ever go to prison! ?? You know when the students and their professor took over the Texas lotto and the commision had to step down? recall that story! i probably have somethiung mixed up dont I?
In fact has anyone been prosecuted who were rigging any of the lotto's I have read about on lottery post! ?
Not much to say on the politics here, except something needs to be done to turn things around for the better; not sure if this is the right approach, but the people voted her in twice, so.. I'm hoping there's brighter days after the storm clears, and if not, well... after her term's ended, someone else will take the lead, and we'll see how the whole process plays all over again. I hope the michigan lottery can be back up and running 100% soon. I'll miss turning in all those $2.00 winners.
Quote: Originally posted by nanolike on Sep 30, 2007
This is very odd, why dont I ever hear about any of this in the local newspapers? We'll actually I haven't read the newspaper nor watched television recently so maybe I missed it! You would think this would have been international news.
I have noticed every time that I come to lottery post something criminal is going on with some lottery in the United State. Texas, Georgia, Indiana, Michigan and more.
I almost start to think that the lottery wants to look like crooks so no one will trust them and everyone will stop buying tickets.
You know so people will stop gambling?
Some times they are outright blatent in their crookedness. Like they want to get caught?
Is this their hidden agenda?
How can people say the lottery is stickly monitored when its not! I dont get it??? From what I read on lottery post it seems as if it really isnt monitored all that well. I'm just sayin.
I am just utterly confused each time I hear of something crooked going on behind the publics back and no one had a clue and ultimately nothing is ever really done about it.
Maybe someone can catch me up here. Did any of the people who rigged the Texas lotto some time ago ever go to prison! ?? You know when the students and their professor took over the Texas lotto and the commision had to step down? recall that story! i probably have somethiung mixed up dont I?
In fact has anyone been prosecuted who were rigging any of the lotto's I have read about on lottery post! ?
Even 1?
I'm not sure where you see something criminal in the article? It's politics. Each year each state must pass a budget for the next fiscal year. That means the state congressmen and state reps must put together a budget that will be signed into law by the state governor. If the governor doesn't agree, he/she will veto it. The governor can say "No budget on my desk unless I get tax increases". That is not crooked, just aggrevating, since it proves again that the politicians don't know how to restrict their spending.
The point is, they are overlooking the fact that they can't keep raising taxes, or we will end up going the same way as the Roman Empire. That is what killed-off the Roman Empire; they made it impossible for the people to live due to too much tax. We're already on the way towards that. They need to wake up and be responsible and stop all their pet projects. And we need to vote out any incumbent that votes for increased taxes, regardless of the party they belong to....
What I don't get is why the lottery would be affected in the first place.
Two issues here - the purely lottery issue and the broader public policy issue. This kind of thing is bad newws for the lottery. The bad press and insecurity may cause new players or infrequent players to be less likely to play, in addition to p'ing off regular players.
From the policy standpoint, different states allow the Legislatire to allocate lottery funds in each budget cycle - most simply have a dedicated beneficiary fund (or funds) that lottery revenues are paid into. BUT - every lottery I know is funded entirely by the proceeds of ticket sales. Which raises the question - if the Lottery is not funded out of the State budget, why would a budget impasse impact the Lottery?
The solution for this is a Constitutional Amendment that automatically enacts a new budget at a (say) 1% reduction in current levels if Legislators and the Governor fail to enact a new budget. That way, if you want to take away more from the state economy to funnel dollars through Government, you have to have both the Executive and Legislative branches on board. A number of States do this (or have gone to it), and it seems to be a good way to hold down runaway spending, in addition to avoiding government shutdowns.
I mean, c'mon. The average American household deals with statistically insignificant (1 - 3% is usually considered to be statistically insignificant) decreases in year to year income all the time - bonuses smaller, taxes went up, less OT, etc. Government agencies should be able to find ways to make things work the same or even better with a little less money - private citizens and companies do it every day.
I remember they did this in nj, I think in 2006, and you could actually be in all of the drawings that happened during the shutdown IF you played far enough ahead. They had to conduct drawings (but not on TV) for those who played ahead. I remember there were really weird payouts on some of them like $0 for Pick 4 STR (no winners) but $900-something for Pick 3 STR. IF you live in Michigan if you just want to be in the drawings PLAY AHEAD preferrably using numbers that are simply the most frequent or due within the next week.
This makes me REAL proud to say that I'm a resident of Michigan. By the way I'm being sarcastic.
The Michigan governor sounds like ours. We don't have a budget in place either, and they were supposed to have one last July. But the governor, (whom I call "Governor Vito" because he has vetoed everything that would give the average Joe some relief since he has been in office) wants to double the state tax revenue. And he has advocates in the state legislature. He seems ready to veto anything that isn't what he wants.
If this goes on in more and more states, it will break the back of the country's economy. The gap between the rich and everyone else is getting larger and larger. There is a limit to everything, and the pols need to learn they can't keep going to the well forever without there being dire consequences.
This is very odd, why dont I ever hear about any of this in the local newspapers? We'll actually I haven't read the newspaper nor watched television recently so maybe I missed it! You would think this would have been international news.
I have noticed every time that I come to lottery post something criminal is going on with some lottery in the United State. Texas, Georgia, Indiana, Michigan and more.
I almost start to think that the lottery wants to look like crooks so no one will trust them and everyone will stop buying tickets.
You know so people will stop gambling?
Some times they are outright blatent in their crookedness. Like they want to get caught?
Is this their hidden agenda?
How can people say the lottery is stickly monitored when its not! I dont get it??? From what I read on lottery post it seems as if it really isnt monitored all that well. I'm just sayin.
I am just utterly confused each time I hear of something crooked going on behind the publics back and no one had a clue and ultimately nothing is ever really done about it.
Maybe someone can catch me up here. Did any of the people who rigged the Texas lotto some time ago ever go to prison! ?? You know when the students and their professor took over the Texas lotto and the commision had to step down? recall that story! i probably have somethiung mixed up dont I?
In fact has anyone been prosecuted who were rigging any of the lotto's I have read about on lottery post! ?
Even 1?
Great story Todd!
Not much to say on the politics here, except something needs to be done to turn things around for the better; not sure if this is the right approach, but the people voted her in twice, so.. I'm hoping there's brighter days after the storm clears, and if not, well... after her term's ended, someone else will take the lead, and we'll see how the whole process plays all over again. I hope the michigan lottery can be back up and running 100% soon. I'll miss turning in all those $2.00 winners.
I'm not sure where you see something criminal in the article? It's politics. Each year each state must pass a budget for the next fiscal year. That means the state congressmen and state reps must put together a budget that will be signed into law by the state governor. If the governor doesn't agree, he/she will veto it. The governor can say "No budget on my desk unless I get tax increases". That is not crooked, just aggrevating, since it proves again that the politicians don't know how to restrict their spending.
The point is, they are overlooking the fact that they can't keep raising taxes, or we will end up going the same way as the Roman Empire. That is what killed-off the Roman Empire; they made it impossible for the people to live due to too much tax. We're already on the way towards that. They need to wake up and be responsible and stop all their pet projects. And we need to vote out any incumbent that votes for increased taxes, regardless of the party they belong to....
Well the state of mich will not shut down the voted at 4am this morning oct1 and they were able to avert a shutdown.
What I don't get is why the lottery would be affected in the first place.
Two issues here - the purely lottery issue and the broader public policy issue. This kind of thing is bad newws for the lottery. The bad press and insecurity may cause new players or infrequent players to be less likely to play, in addition to p'ing off regular players.
From the policy standpoint, different states allow the Legislatire to allocate lottery funds in each budget cycle - most simply have a dedicated beneficiary fund (or funds) that lottery revenues are paid into. BUT - every lottery I know is funded entirely by the proceeds of ticket sales. Which raises the question - if the Lottery is not funded out of the State budget, why would a budget impasse impact the Lottery?
The solution for this is a Constitutional Amendment that automatically enacts a new budget at a (say) 1% reduction in current levels if Legislators and the Governor fail to enact a new budget. That way, if you want to take away more from the state economy to funnel dollars through Government, you have to have both the Executive and Legislative branches on board. A number of States do this (or have gone to it), and it seems to be a good way to hold down runaway spending, in addition to avoiding government shutdowns.
I mean, c'mon. The average American household deals with statistically insignificant (1 - 3% is usually considered to be statistically insignificant) decreases in year to year income all the time - bonuses smaller, taxes went up, less OT, etc. Government agencies should be able to find ways to make things work the same or even better with a little less money - private citizens and companies do it every day.
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I remember they did this in nj, I think in 2006, and you could actually be in all of the drawings that happened during the shutdown IF you played far enough ahead. They had to conduct drawings (but not on TV) for those who played ahead. I remember there were really weird payouts on some of them like $0 for Pick 4 STR (no winners) but $900-something for Pick 3 STR. IF you live in Michigan if you just want to be in the drawings PLAY AHEAD preferrably using numbers that are simply the most frequent or due within the next week.