Connecticut Gov. considers dumping Powerball

Jul 17, 2005, 1:30 pm (65 comments)

Powerball

Connecticut Governor M. Jodi Rell thinks Powerball, the multi-state lottery game that offers huge potential payoffs, is about to become a lousy bet.

The agency that runs the game announced the odds of winning will be a lot higher starting next month, and winners who opt for multi-year payouts will wait longer for the big money.

Rell asked state officials to review the new lottery rules and decide if it is still a good deal for Connecticut lottery players.

"If we don't approve of the rules, in essence we are withdrawing from Powerball," said Paul Bernstein, legislative liaison for the state Division of Special Revenue, the agency charged with approving games for the Connecticut Lottery Corporation. "Games of chance in Connecticut must offer players a fair and reasonable shake. We want to make sure that's the case" with Powerball.

Powerball announced changes that increase the minimum jackpot from $10 million to $15 million, but reduce the odds of winning. Further, annual payments will now start lower and increase over the years; currently the annuity is paid evenly over 30 years.

The new rules take effect for the Aug. 31 drawing. The Special Revenue division is expected to make a decision within two weeks.

When Rell ordered the investigation into the Powerball changes, she wrote a letter to Paul Young, special revenue executive director.

"While I realize that risk is an essential aspect to all games of chance," Rell said, "I do not think that risk should be so high as to be patently unfair to the purchaser of the ticket."

Rell also said the new annuity payment schedule is "unfair and makes a winner a loser."

The number of white balls to draw from will go from 53 to 55, which will drive the odds of winning the jackpot from 1 in 120 million to 1 in 146 million. The number of red powerballs will remain at 42. The average winning payout would be $84.1 million. If taken in a lump sum, the jackpot would amount to $46.9 million after taxes.

But the annuity payments will start lower than they do now and increase by 4 percent each year, so the largest payments would be in last few years of the payout.

Under the new schedule, it would take 14 years for the annual payment to reach the same level as the first payment under the current method.

By year 15, the payment would be higher, and ultimately, the jackpot at the end of the 30-year period would be more, because it will be adjusted for inflation.

The changes could end up being bad for the lottery's business, Danbury resident Patricia Pelletier said.

"I used to play regularly, but it's always getting more complicated," Pelletier said. "You hear about people who can't even get their lump sum because of problems. The lotto is just not a big thing. People want to put their money in other things like real estate or casinos."

The changes in odds of winning and the payouts would discourage Jenny Morelle of Danbury from playing even if the jackpots are higher.

"If I'm older, I would not appreciate that. I would just take the lump sum," Morelle said. "It's hard enough to win as it is now. The chances are so few and far between."

Most players take the lump sum, but two or three per year take the annuity payment, said Charles Strutt, executive director of the Multi-State Lottery Association, the Urbandale, Iowa group that runs Powerball.

Strutt declined to comment on Rell's concerns, but said the new payment system will not hurt winners.

"That's designed to run consistent with the rate of inflation," Strutt said. "It allows a player to maintain a lifestyle. I'm not saying it's a good deal or a bad deal. It's a matter of managing your money."

Strutt said the total dollar amount is higher under the graduated annuity. With equal payments, inflation actually means a winner gets less each year, he said.

Bob Williams, a financial planner and owner of Money Concepts in Danbury, said the new payout could be a good deal depending on how soon someone wants their money.

"If it's a no-lose situation and the graduated payments get higher, and you have a beneficiary and you don't need it all tomorrow, it's clearly smart thinking," Williams said.

The odds were changed, Strutt said, because there were just too many winners last year.

"We had a run of a lot of winners," Strutt said. "We just want to add more to the population."

Last year the Powerball — which operates in 27 states, the Virgin Islands and Washington, D.C. — had 17 winners, the most since 2002 when it had 12 winners. More winners keep the jackpots lower, and when the jackpot is lower, fewer people buy tickets.

Rell, in her letter, said larger prizes aren't necessarily a good thing.

"I am equally concerned that the lure of the mega-jackpot will entice more people to bet beyond their means," Rell said.

According to Rell's office, she has not sought the help of other Powerball state governors in opposing the rule changes.

Lottery officials in other Powerball states like New Hampshire, Vermont, Rhode Island, Pennsylvania and Arizona had no objections to the rules changes.

Since Connecticut adopted the Powerball in November of 1995, it has brought $323 million to the state's general fund. In the last fiscal year, it contributed $42 million into the general fund. Combined, all of the Connecticut lottery games produced $280 million in state revenue last year. The odds of winning the Connecticut Classic Lotto jackpot are 1 in 7 million.

Diane Patterson, spokeswoman for the Connecticut Lottery Corporation, would not comment on the matter.

Bernstein, of special revenue, said he doesn't know what Connecticut will do if it dumps Powerball. He said MegaMillions, the multi-state lottery in New York, California and other states, is usually offered only to states larger than Connecticut.

Last month, Seymour resident Christopher Ewen hit a $59 million Powerball jackpot, the largest jackpot in the 33 years of the Connecticut state lottery. He took the lump sum payment. The winning ticket was drawn eight years to the day from the last time a Connecticut resident won an $8 million Powerball jackpot.

New powerball rules

The folks that run Powerball are changing the way they pay off jackpots for winners choosing a 30-year-annuity.

  • The estimated average jackpot under the new rules will be $84.1 million.
  • If it was paid off in equal amounts, as it is now, winners would get $2.8 million a year, before taxes.
  • Starting Aug. 31, payments will be backloaded, meaning winners will get far less in the early years. The winner of an $84.1 million jackpot will get $1.72 million in year one.
  • The winner won't reach $2.8 million until year 14.
  • The winner will get $5.36 million in year 30. Nearly one-third of the total will come in the last five years.

Danbury News Times

Comments

CASH Only

Don't let this happen!

JAP69's avatarJAP69

"While I realize that risk is an essential aspect to all games of chance," Rell said, "I do not think that risk should be so high as to be patently unfair to the purchaser of the ticket."

Bravo

Someone pat him on the back

CASH Only

John:

Jodi Rell is a FEMALE governor.

JAP69's avatarJAP69

John:

Jodi Rell is a FEMALE governor.

OHHHH really

Is she good lookin. I will personally take her out to lunch and pat her on the back. LOL

CASH Only

john:

Why do you want me to go elsewhere to play Powerball?

JAG331

John:

Jodi Rell is a FEMALE governor.

OHHHH really

Is she good lookin. I will personally take her out to lunch and pat her on the back. LOL

She's been doing a good job since Rowland left...except for this nonsense.

Ouch...I'd have to start getting friends in NNE or PA to buy my tix.

Where should we send letters??

ayenowitall's avatarayenowitall

"The folks that run Powerball are changing the way they pay off jackpots for winners choosing a 30-year-annuity.

  • The estimated average jackpot under the new rules will be $84.1 million.
  • If it was paid off in equal amounts, as it is now, winners would get $2.8 million a year, before taxes.
  • Starting Aug. 31, payments will be backloaded, meaning winners will get far less in the early years. The winner of an $84.1 million jackpot will get $1.72 million in year one.
  • The winner won't reach $2.8 million until year 14.
  • The winner will get $5.36 million in year 30. Nearly one-third of the total will come in the last five years."

Moral of the story: Notwithstanding the astronomical odds, if you play this game and somehow manage to hit the jackpot, take the lump sum cash payment and manage your own money.

aye'

CASH Only

I don't want to have to drive to PA (home of Unlucky for Life) to play PB or the Blue Game!

Just6ntlc

I don't want to see Connecticut withdraw from Powerball.

JimmySand9

Well, there would be pros and cons. One is that we'd have another state minus a multi-state game (plus Florida). And such a move would prove to hurt Powerball's reputation. On the other hand, we'd have a lot more people playing Classic Lotto, and that would mean faster moving jackpots.

getpaid

Somebody has to threat to pull out of powerball else they would go ahead with their outrageous odds. A steak of winners is gonna make the game very difficult for me. I hope when the matrix is changed, the add a new state. Else CT can go. I think CT might be favoring MM and just thinks that PB is a mistake. I think so too for TN.

sirius's avatarsirius

So the odds go from next to impossible to incredibly impossible. So what. It's not the odds that determine my playing powerball. I hope they realize die-hard players will purchase their tix out of state anyway.

I hope Ct doesn't do away with powerball. 

weshar75's avatarweshar75

If she does not like powerball's odds then she definitely won't like mega millions and they would not let a small state in any ways.  That graduated annuity sure does blow chunks I think I will take the cash when I win.

JAG331

This would take away NYC's closest Powerball outlet.  I think there will be a lot of opposition.

Badger's avatarBadger

>>>The average winning payout would be $84.1 million. If taken in a lump sum, the jackpot would amount to $46.9 million after taxes.<L<<

If there is someone that can't live comfortably on this average payout the rest of their life, they have bigger problems that need be addressed.  The majority of workers in the US won't earn one million dollars after taxes  in their working lifetimes. Those that do earn that and more don't know how far up the ladder they really are....

Chewie

I use PA for Powerball. NO interest on Lottery winnings - CT makes sure it gets their finger in all pies. No tax in NJ and No tax In PA. BIG difference in take home amount. Plus PA doesn't force you to publish your name! Now all I need to do is win ...

MPJO

 

 

 Canada does it best.........Lump Sum Tax Free!!

JimmySand9

 

 

 Canada does it best.........Lump Sum Tax Free!!

Yeah. Unfortunately, they don't have Powerball, or anything close to that.

vbmx

I personally live in mass and rarely play powerball but i dont want it leaving connecticut either..  its nice knowing that it is there and i can take the 20 minute drive if needed to buy my ticket.

LOTTOMIKE's avatarLOTTOMIKE

it seems to me that mega millions has always been better than powerball.most of the time they have bigger jackpots too.....

smd173

I use PA for Powerball. NO interest on Lottery winnings - CT makes sure it gets their finger in all pies. No tax in NJ and No tax In PA. BIG difference in take home amount. Plus PA doesn't force you to publish your name! Now all I need to do is win ...

You can not claim annonymously in PA. They make you publish your name. DE is the only PB state that I know of that allows you to claim annonymously.

smd173

I don't want to have to drive to PA (home of Unlucky for Life) to play PB or the Blue Game!

Gee CASH, I thought you'd be all happy since they are changing the payout structure on the annuity to the point where it will almost force people to take the lump sum.

CASH Only

smd:

I like the change to the annuity. I wish PA would offer a cash option for UfL or retire the game (instead of switching the draw nights).

fitzov

Good job Jodi. We should just go back to the standard six number draw, never mind this Powerball crap. If the stop the Powerball, more people will play the classic lotto here in CT.

 

Btw. Jodi is a pretty good Governor. The only one I've heard publicly denounce the legislature for dragging their feet on campaign finance reform. 

Todd's avatarTodd

I use PA for Powerball. NO interest on Lottery winnings - CT makes sure it gets their finger in all pies. No tax in NJ and No tax In PA. BIG difference in take home amount. Plus PA doesn't force you to publish your name! Now all I need to do is win ...

You can not claim anonymously in PA. They make you publish your name. DE is the only PB state that I know of that allows you to claim anonymously.

I think you're right about DE being the only state that officially allows you to remain anonymous.  However, some other states have respected a winner's right to privacy, and do not release private details if requested.  For example, Maryland is very good about respecting the wish to remain anonymous.

starchild_45's avatarstarchild_45

I use PA for Powerball. NO interest on Lottery winnings - CT makes sure it gets their finger in all pies. No tax in NJ and No tax In PA. BIG difference in take home amount. Plus PA doesn't force you to publish your name! Now all I need to do is win ...

i prefer pa over ct too. i used to run up to greewich when i was working in nyc. now i run up to pa  and play there. they are more friendly to players. used to be in ct that when the powerball got over 100 million they would try to discourage players playing in greewich ct. which would make it a pain in the ass to me trying to play my tickets. i am a hardcore player and i play when it is low or when it is high. i would hate to go there and signs up. it is probably not like that anymore but it did change my spending habits. plus if i drive from nyc to pa i can play the nj pick 6 too along the way.

CASH Only

The only Powerball state bordering CT is RI. Unfortunately RI doesn't have Hot Lotto.

JAG331

I use PA for Powerball. NO interest on Lottery winnings - CT makes sure it gets their finger in all pies. No tax in NJ and No tax In PA. BIG difference in take home amount. Plus PA doesn't force you to publish your name! Now all I need to do is win ...

i prefer pa over ct too. i used to run up to greewich when i was working in nyc. now i run up to pa  and play there. they are more friendly to players. used to be in ct that when the powerball got over 100 million they would try to discourage players playing in greewich ct. which would make it a pain in the ass to me trying to play my tickets. i am a hardcore player and i play when it is low or when it is high. i would hate to go there and signs up. it is probably not like that anymore but it did change my spending habits. plus if i drive from nyc to pa i can play the nj pick 6 too along the way.

Oh c'mon, don't make Greenwich out to be a bad town! 

No, any jackpot under $200 million is not a problem once you get away from the Ave.

CASH Only

If Rell runs for governor next year, she must be defeated.

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